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Engineering Mechatronics, Where should I study?

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Dragonelo
post May 27 2013, 04:09 PM

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Is it possible go mechatronics first in diploma then E&E in degree then mechatronics again in masters?
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post May 27 2013, 07:07 PM

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Before u all join mechatronics, first u have to ask yourself this: why? I really wanted to join mechatronics only to find that the prospect is rubbish in malaysia. Hardly think of going to work replacing the japanese or germans. They are way ahead of us and hardly want us in the company. My friend who graduated with mechatronics in german also went to oil and gas. Join oil and gas. The oil and gas field is wide in scope. The money is mostly in oil and gas too. Just advising. Dont regret after graduating
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post May 28 2013, 10:14 AM

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interest comes first......
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post May 28 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 28 2013, 10:14 AM)
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U sure? Even if the prospect is rubbish in malaysia and less likely for u to work overseas?
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QUOTE(AMINT @ May 28 2013, 01:23 PM)
U sure? Even if (1) the prospect is rubbish in malaysia and (2) less likely for u to work overseas?
I don't know what's in your mind, but that's probably because you imposed two unreal conditions that clouded your perspective. The foundations of Mechatronics are built on Control & Instrumentation Engineering. Do you know that Mechatronics graduates can apply fundamental instrumentation and control engineering principles to oil and gas facilities design and operation? You did mention your Mechatronics friend hired in Oil & Gas sector, didn't you? Moreover, the prospects for oil and gas counters remain bright in Malaysia. icon_idea.gif

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Malaysia is just at the start of an oil boom, on the back of the promising outlook for the exploration and production (E&P) industry. The country's deepwater projects will assume a prominent role in providing new growth opportunities in Malaysia and are expected to produce about 250,000 bpd of new oil by 2010. All in, nine deepwater fields have been identified for commercial operations from 2007 to 2013. icon_rolleyes.gif

If you cannot find a job in the oil & gas companies, and unless you are technically incompetent, send your résumé to SIEMENS, ABB and Yokogawa. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 28 2013, 10:14 AM)
interest comes first......
And Ivan can imagine beyond these. whistling.gif

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post May 28 2013, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ May 28 2013, 02:36 PM)
I don't know what's in your mind, but that's probably because you imposed two unreal conditions that clouded your perspective. The foundations of Mechatronics are built on Control & Instrumentation Engineering. Do you know that Mechatronics graduates can apply fundamental instrumentation and control engineering principles to oil and gas facilities design and operation? You did mention your Mechatronics friend hired in Oil & Gas sector, didn't you? Moreover, the prospects for oil and gas counters remain bright in Malaysia. icon_idea.gif

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Malaysia is just at the start of an oil boom, on the back of the promising outlook for the exploration and production (E&P) industry. The country's deepwater projects will assume a prominent role in providing new growth opportunities in Malaysia and are expected to produce about 250,000 bpd of new oil by 2010. All in, nine deepwater fields have been identified for commercial operations from 2007 to 2013. icon_rolleyes.gif

If you cannot find a job in the oil & gas companies, and unless you are technically incompetent, send your résumé to SIEMENS, ABB and Yokogawa. thumbup.gif
And Ivan can imagine beyond these. whistling.gif
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1)mechatronics apply fundamental instrumentation and control engineering principles to oil and gas facilities? hehe. nevermind la. you just try to apply to O&G companies and say this during your interview la. see how the interviewer answer back.

2) deepwater using mechatronics? also please say this during your interview. if you apply to operator companies like Exxon, Shell, Petronas, they just might smile back at you. but if you apply for service providers, maybe you have a chance.


Well up to you, bro. I just mentioned whatever I have experienced and wanna share with you guys. coz i was also interested to join mechatronics until something stopped me from doing so. my friend didnt even applied his mechatronics in O&G by the way. he was absorbed as a pure mechanical engineer.

if you feel that you can go far with your interest, just go ahead. but if you want $ and want it fast, this may not be the suitable field for you.





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QUOTE(AMINT @ May 28 2013, 01:23 PM)
U sure? Even if the prospect is rubbish in malaysia and less likely for u to work overseas?
QUOTE(AMINT @ May 28 2013, 03:52 PM)
if you feel that you can go far with your interest, just go ahead. but if you want $ and want it fast, this may not be the suitable field for you.
(1) Thanks for your sharing and your personal experience in attempting to pursue a degree in Mechatronics. You are very right in advising young students to consider carefully when deciding for their education and career prospect in the future. However, I might be missing something here because I’m not sure if I understand what you intend to say. icon_question.gif

(2) By your indirect reasoning, do you mean that if that job does not enable you to make money (subjective issue) and earn it fast (relative issue) in Malaysia, then that kind of job is rubbish? I might be incorrectly interpreted them. sweat.gif

(3) In general, if everyone had that belief from the beginning, then would it be logical to say most kinds of job prospects would be “rubbish” by your standard? hmm.gif

(4) Or specifically, so when you shared that belief to others and in comparison they find they make much more money and much faster than you, would it be fair to say that criteria made your current job looked “rubbish”? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ May 28 2013, 04:52 PM)
(1) Thanks for your sharing and your personal experience in attempting to pursue a degree in Mechatronics. You are very right in advising young students to consider carefully when deciding for their education and career prospect in the future. However, I might be missing something here because I’m not sure if I understand what you intend to say. icon_question.gif

(2) By your indirect reasoning, do you mean that if that job does not enable you to make money (subjective issue) and earn it fast (relative issue) in Malaysia, then that kind of job is rubbish? I might be incorrectly interpreted them. sweat.gif

(3) In general, if everyone had that belief from the beginning, then would it be logical to say most kinds of job prospects would be “rubbish” by your standard? hmm.gif

(4) Or specifically, so when you shared that belief to others and in comparison they find they make much more money and much faster than you, would it be fair to say that criteria made your current job looked “rubbish”? unsure.gif
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ok. Nothing more to share bro judging from your comments here. just wanna share this coz many became millionaires by early 30s in O&G. The creme de la creme in terms of $ is not E&E, Mech, IT in O&G btw. The biggest bucks come from drilling, petroleum engineering and geoscience groups for your info. But everyone is entitled to own choices. So good luck in your choices. All the best

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My own 2 cents....

Time and again.... I find people take university education as a road to securing a lucrative job,,....

Universities are where we gain knowledge and perhaps practice them. It is where research takes place. Not only for COMMERCIALLY viable stuff, but also other less popular fields. WHY? because there needs to be research to further the development of humanity.

Choosing a course base on how popular the job demand is for that course is one factor. But do not forget the underlying principle of higher education. IF NO ONE GETS INTERESTED STUDYING BIO -MEDICINE BECAUSE IT COMES WITH LOW PAY WITH PROBABLITY OF ONLY BECOMING A LAB RESEARCHER..... then there won't be any new advancement from that field, who knows, one day a lowly lab researcher in bio-tech finally cracks the code and produces a cancer cure?



Just because a field is not lucrative, does not mean it is not important.... economics dictates the supply and demand, salary and payscale, but does not dictate future value of a particular field to progress human kind.

Take note. Higher Education is to expand society's knowledge and capability.. not just for the pay at the end of the month.
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QUOTE(cocobunana @ Mar 31 2013, 06:48 PM)
Hi, I just got my SPM result not long ago and would like to study mechatronics. But I'm not sure where should I study. There are some similar thread in this forum, but most of them are quite some time ago. ._.

Anyway, should I study mechatronics in UTAR or are there any other good options? Other than Nottingham and Monash. Or should I study in A.P.U.? Would love to further my studies oversea...

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hey!! So where r u studying right now?? Could give me some advise??
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post Apr 6 2014, 03:24 AM

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hey!! So where r u studying right now?? Could give me some advise??
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Currently I'm doing MUFY at Sunway, going to Monash next year. But I'm still exploring myself, considering other major and might go somewhere else. Initially decided to enter Monash because of it's well known reputation and also for the chance to study abroad.

My thoughts so far:
It kinda depends on what you really want, I know we live in a realistic world and stuff, but hey, you could be a happy barista working in a cafe and having less stuff to worry about OR you could be that rich, hard-working engineer. Well, money or happiness?
Or both? tongue.gif

I know, I should not waste my parents money and my time if I'm going to be a barista. But I'm learning, slowly building the possible paths to my goal and currently, that's what matters to me now.
Anddd I should not take too long. sweat.gif

Anyhow, the MUFY programme is okay. And if you're going for Mechatronics in Monash, doing MUFY in Sunway then enter Monash is not a bad choice. I guess. But if you have financial issues... sweat.gif

You can apply for scholarship, like from Maybank IF you have an excellent result and err... personality.

I don't have any good alternative for mechatronics.
But if you want insist for a good quality, you can try Nottingham, but it's kinda costly too.
Bear in mind that good quality as in the certificate have a good quality, because of your ability to think and solve is what everyone else expect it to be. Excellent.
You can also try UCSI. 2 of my cousins are currently studying mechatronics there.
One of the them suggested me to go for Nottingham after having 1 or 2 years of mechatronics studies.
And I don't suggest going UTAR. Don't ask.

Cheers! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(david.wong1313 @ Apr 5 2014, 03:09 PM)
hey!! So where r u studying right now?? Could give me some advise??
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Also, read those that replied me above. Think thoroughly.

Or go form 6, give more time to think if you're not sure what path to take yet.

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post Apr 6 2014, 03:32 AM

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Forgot to say thanks to those that replied me. sweat.gif

Sorry and thank you very much for helping me. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 6 2014, 03:36 AM

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dont waste time mechatronics
do something which is relevent with malaysian market

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QUOTE(harvin6 @ Apr 6 2014, 03:36 AM)
dont waste time mechatronics
do something which is relevent with malaysian market
Most Malaysian Mechatronics courses are directly related to PLC Control Systems and Industrial Automation.

So, are you saying that present Malaysian market goes back to the stone age? sweat.gif

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post Apr 6 2014, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(cocobunana @ Apr 6 2014, 03:24 AM)
Currently I'm doing MUFY at Sunway, going to Monash next year. But I'm still exploring myself, considering other major and might go somewhere else. Initially decided to enter Monash because of it's well known reputation and also for the chance to study abroad.

My thoughts so far:
It kinda depends on what you really want, I know we live in a realistic world and stuff, but hey, you could be a happy barista working in a cafe and having less stuff to worry about OR you could be that rich, hard-working engineer. Well, money or happiness?
Or both? tongue.gif

I know, I should not waste my parents money and my time if I'm going to be a barista. But I'm learning, slowly building the possible paths to my goal and currently, that's what matters to me now.
Anddd I should not take too long.  sweat.gif

Anyhow, the MUFY programme is okay. And if you're going for Mechatronics in Monash, doing MUFY in Sunway then enter Monash is not a bad choice. I guess. But if you have financial issues... sweat.gif

You can apply for scholarship, like from Maybank IF you have an excellent result and err... personality.

I don't have any good alternative for mechatronics.
But if you want insist for a good quality, you can try Nottingham, but it's kinda costly too.
Bear in mind that good quality as in the certificate have a good quality, because of your ability to think and solve is what everyone else expect it to be. Excellent.
You can also try UCSI. 2 of my cousins are currently studying mechatronics there.
One of the them suggested me to go for Nottingham after having 1 or 2 years of mechatronics studies.
And I don't suggest going UTAR. Don't ask.

Cheers!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thank for the advised! smile.gif

May I know how much u doing MUFY?
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Apr 6 2014, 08:28 AM)
Most Malaysian Mechatronics courses are directly related to PLC Control Systems and Industrial Automation.

So, are you saying that present Malaysian market goes back to the stone age? sweat.gif

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wake up come back to reality.....how many company have these PLC control systems....out of 100 graduates may be 1 to 5 Percent max will be given opportunity cause there are so little space out there to accommodate these graduates....so speaking base on exp dont go mechatronic....be specific mechanicle or electronic or electrical...is much suitable for malaysian jobs. I even know how to operate and program the pegasus robot...but proton or even perodua didnt even look at my resume.( SO call no space) btw im not malay.
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QUOTE(harvin6 @ Apr 12 2014, 09:30 AM)
wake up come back to reality.....how many company have these PLC control systems....out of 100 graduates may be 1 to 5 Percent max will be given opportunity cause there are so little space out there to accommodate these graduates....so speaking base on exp don't go mechatronic....be specific mechanical or electronic or electrical...is much suitable for Malaysian jobs. I even know how to operate and program the Pegasus robot...but proton or even perodua didn't even look at my resume. (SO call no space) btw im not malay.
Good. I don't have the figures. Have you really surveyed the number of factories with automated machines in Malaysia? But I can understand your priorities. It is probably a good advice if one intends to work in the construction industry as electrical or mechanical project engineers. I feel sorry for you because it happens to you at the bad time, and bad place. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Apr 12 2014, 08:06 PM)
Good. I don't have the figures. Have you really surveyed the number of factories with automated machines in Malaysia? But I can understand your priorities. It is probably a good advice if one intends to work in the construction industry as electrical or mechanical project engineers. I feel sorry for you because it happens to you at the bad time, and bad place. sad.gif
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yea im just saying....to this ts think properly...dont go do something canggih later end up in call centre because cannot get the job that he/she desires.
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QUOTE(harvin6 @ Apr 13 2014, 02:15 PM)
yea im just saying....to this ts think properly...dont go do something canggih later end up in call centre because cannot get the job that he/she desires.
May you follow your dreams and always believe in yourself. icon_rolleyes.gif

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