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KUALA LUMPUR: The Chinese should put aside their sentiment to punish Barisan Nasional in the general election and vote rationally, said former Finance Minister Tun Daim Zainuddin.

In an interview with China Press, Daim said he believed that the Chinese would make the right choice by voting Barisan.

“If you want to punish Barisan, what will you get in return? If the Chinese are not satisfied with the Government, let's see from another perspective. Are they dissatisfied with every issue?

“Economic stability, a peaceful, harmonious, developed and progressing country. It is impossible to get everything you want. I also tell that to the Malays,” he said.

Daim pointed out that if everyone was satisfied with certain issues while dissatisfied with others, it only showed that the Government had done the right thing because it could not exist just for a certain group of people.

In contrast, he said the three parties in Pakatan Rakyat had their own agenda, adding that they could not even properly manage the state governments, let alone the Federal Government.

Based on his analysis, Daim said Barisan would be able to form the next Government, with an even better overall performance compared with the 2008 general election.

“Barisan may lose some of its seats in Johor, Sabah and Sarawak. But the overall results will be better than that in the last elections. This is because Barisan will be able to win back some of the seats in Selangor, Kedah and Kelantan,” he said.

Barisan, said Daim, also had a chance to wrest back Selangor and Kedah if the coalition could come up with suitable Mentri Besar candidates. However, he admitted that it would be an uphill task for Barisan to get back Penang and Kelantan.

As long as Kelantan Mentri Besar Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat is there, the people will vote for PAS. It is very difficult for Barisan to win the state,” he said.

Daim also said that in Perak, although there would be a stiff fight, Barisan had the upper hand.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...9761&sec=nation
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The Chinese? Why he must pin point a race? Idiot...just for that statement alone...using race, i want to do the exact opposite of what he said. Giving more reason not follow what this narrow minded person has to say...in fact i want to do the opposite of it. After half a fucuking century, still never learn...can tell like this somemore.
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mcm la the lain mia race tak vote against bn, racist tul daim
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post Mar 31 2013, 09:37 AM


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Fark, his party outsource racial shit stirring to perkosa now he think we are dumb enough not to know his party is behind it izzit...
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post Mar 31 2013, 09:52 AM


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He said BN can win Kelantan? blink.gif Mua ha ha ha !!! rclxm9.gif
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Daim... is he the one that kuat songlap last time during his tenure as Finance Minister long ago?
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Mar 31 2013, 09:57 AM)
Daim... is he the one that kuat songlap last time during his tenure as Finance Minister long ago?
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and also implemented all the good long-term economic policies, of which the subsequent finance minister after him gained a lot of free credit.
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post Mar 31 2013, 10:18 AM


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There was a guy who said Chinese must be punished for voting opposition

And someone said no need Chinese votes? hmm.gif
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“Economic stability, a peaceful, harmonious, developed and progressing country. It is impossible to get everything you want. I also tell that to the Malays,”



The only thing keeping the country alive is the oil.


Malaysia can easily become one of the top countries in the world with our resources.


Too bad, the country ran by a bunch of idiots and greedy people.
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Economic stability, a peaceful, harmonious, developed and progressing country. It is impossible to get everything you want


Why not ?
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Tolong laa vote BN, if not nanti MCA, Gerakan will become bacaan buku sejarah
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post Mar 31 2013, 10:37 AM


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y he specific chinese!!!
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QUOTE(coldfusion @ Mar 31 2013, 09:26 AM)
The Chinese? Why he must pin point a race? Idiot...just for that statement alone...using race, i want to do the exact opposite of what he said. Giving more reason not follow what this narrow minded person has to say...in fact i want to do the opposite of it. After half a fucuking century, still never learn...can tell like this somemore.
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I have yet to meet a non chinese that read the china press
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QUOTE(coldfusion @ Mar 31 2013, 09:26 AM)
The Chinese? Why he must pin point a race? Idiot...just for that statement alone...using race, i want to do the exact opposite of what he said. Giving more reason not follow what this narrow minded person has to say...in fact i want to do the opposite of it. After half a fucuking century, still never learn...can tell like this somemore.
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QUOTE(ticke @ Mar 31 2013, 09:36 AM)
mcm la the lain mia race tak vote against bn, racist tul daim
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y he specific chinese!!!
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Why butthurt so much.?

I don't like him but he's talking to a chinese media because he address the chinese community trend to blame the current ruling party (BN) on almost every issue that happening in our country now.

So now when you talk specifically to chinese readers now you're a racist? Good logic you have there laugh.gif

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who said its about punishing ??

its about getting a better governance ... that will better manage our malaysian resources.. and stop/reduce corruption..

and bring all those who have rob/rape our country to justice...
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Me.10% daim is a smart man

He quit before madir can do anything to him
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post Mar 31 2013, 10:52 AM


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So now Chinese vote very important? I remember last umngok general assembly some one said they dont need Chinese apa.
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u help me, i help u ....

u punish me, i punish u la ...... whistling.gif
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post Mar 31 2013, 10:57 AM


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here is a suggestion for him split chinese out from Malaysia. I think we are better off on our own than Umno krony
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 31 2013, 10:52 AM)
So now Chinese vote very important? I remember last umngok general assembly some one said they dont need Chinese apa.
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i thought cainis votes are never important for umno? why beg like a dog now?
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 31 2013, 10:52 AM)
So now Chinese vote very important? I remember last umngok general assembly some one said they dont need Chinese apa.
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i read an article bout almost 2/3 of Chinese voters are backing the opposition when majority malay votes are divided to 3 groups respectively (UMNO, PAS and PKR) hence BN no longer have any significant upper hand from Malay votes in certain area especially places like Penang and Selangor with huge Chinese population. Of course they will appreciate Chinese voters but i wonder will they need after the GE


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now only know the importance of cina keke
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 31 2013, 09:11 AM)
It's even more irrational NOT to punish Barisan!

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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 31 2013, 10:52 AM)
So now Chinese vote very important? I remember last umngok general assembly some one said they dont need Chinese apa.
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Tick mark now also acceptable by SPR. no longer undi losak. nod.gif
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We pay taxes

Daim songlap our tax and EPF sad.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Mar 31 2013, 11:37 AM)
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It's called THE WORLD'S BEST DEMOCRACY!

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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Mar 31 2013, 11:18 AM)
There was a guy who said Chinese must be punished for voting opposition

And someone said no need Chinese votes? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 31 2013, 11:52 AM)
So now Chinese vote very important? I remember last umngok general assembly some one said they dont need Chinese apa.
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Biasa la letew tak fikir sebelum buka mulut
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Another lacist party begging for chinese vote lol

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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Mar 31 2013, 10:38 AM)
Why butthurt so much.?

I don't like him but he's talking to a chinese media because he address the chinese community trend to blame the current ruling party (BN) on almost every issue that happening in our country now.

So now when you talk specifically to chinese readers now you're a racist? Good logic you have there  laugh.gif
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wut meleis dun read cainis papers now izzit?
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"vote rationally, said former Finance Minister Tun Daim Zainuddin" if vote rationally means voting for PR.
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 31 2013, 10:52 AM)
So now Chinese vote very important? I remember last umngok general assembly some one said they dont need Chinese apa.
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No one's punishing anybody. This is a case of people wanting to change an under performing government. Don't confuse between the two.
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The way I see

Malaysia should already economy similar or better than Sigapork and S.Korea after 50+ years ruling.
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i think he has the point for mentioning chinese

as we can see, most of the chinese-majority region were conquered by the opposition, and if you were a chinese, you may ask yourself too why, and i believe what chinese dun like about BN was their songlap issue using "their" political power.

i'm chinese and i still have many friendly malay/indian fren.
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QUOTE(cpk @ Mar 31 2013, 03:36 PM)
The way I see

Malaysia should already economy similar or better than Sigapork and S.Korea after 50+ years ruling.
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Someone said cannot coz Malays started off slower than the rest so they must be helped via NEP

After Malays achieve NEP then only talk about equality

Ok?
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Fact: 90% wont vote for BN
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Mar 31 2013, 03:54 PM)
Fact: 90% wont vote for BN
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QUOTE(DMZ383Abu @ Mar 31 2013, 03:53 PM)
ComeOn you think the Chinese can do only so much on politics only! They had uprise even those businessmen,lawyers, tycoons! It will definetely cause a total collapse of this Gov if they persist to 'degil'! People power had UPRISE Worldwide!
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dude dun twist my point. i just say the chinese has voiced up over huge songlap issue, well...probably some unfair treatment too.
and i agree with you, the chinese has a strong "holding point" in this land, too.
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Mar 31 2013, 03:57 PM)
overconfidence can lead to disasters
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Go around and ask any apek mr cheong aunty lim or mr tan.... Well lets see brows.gif
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only cronies support bn, most of the people i known don't support bn.
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Mar 31 2013, 04:01 PM)
Go around and ask any apek mr cheong aunty lim or mr tan.... Well lets see brows.gif
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well... that's another story....... PR won't get more thn 40% votes in "most" bumi-majority area
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when it goes south for them they will blame chinese ppl.

den keluarlah all d nice names they have for us.
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QUOTE(DMZ383Abu @ Mar 31 2013, 04:10 PM)
You would be for a big surprise, they aren't dumb anymore and thet knew they had been used and taken for granted by those Cronies the past half decade, they too wanted to rise they head up!
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hahaha laugh.gif hmmmmm ok,......


just rolleyes.gif wait the GE 13 result ....... our nation will racially divide
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Mar 31 2013, 04:14 PM)
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hahaha  laugh.gif  hmmmmm ok,......
just  rolleyes.gif  wait the GE 13 result .......  our nation will racially divide
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I tell you why cainis votes is important

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I tell you why cainis votes is important

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TLDR , Anyway BN days of playing race card is almost drawing to a close..... Who cares

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Daim hmmm go to Wikipedia and googel and find out how cronies deal and create fears to public to brain wash, guess he is trembling with UMNO.
Have you wondered why he moved most of his fund abroad
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I'm punishing BN by voting opposition.
Never exactly care about MCA.
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When he see 2008 future u all trust him like fortune teller then now say he was bullshit. What a world
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post Mar 31 2013, 06:57 PM


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Agree with Daim. I will punish the opposition sternly by giving them a big cross in the voting paper! Let's cross them !!!
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post Mar 31 2013, 11:57 PM


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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Mar 31 2013, 03:52 PM)
Someone said cannot coz Malays started off slower than the rest so they must be helped via NEP

After Malays achieve NEP then only talk about equality

Ok?
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Nep in effect for 30 years and today, my people STILL need help.
Aku kemaluan besar.

Either :
A) my people are too dumb and lazy, or
B) there was something very very wrong with the way nep programmes were implemented.

It's obvious which is the answer.
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Although the chinese is the most wealthy in malaysia added with stability, peace, upperhand etc.. Ill still not vote bn for 1 reason.. songlap... If BN agak2 sikit when songlap and flow the money for community, then its acceptable la.. but now, its so uncontrollable that you really cannot close 1 eye and vote bn
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post Apr 1 2013, 12:03 AM


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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Mar 31 2013, 11:57 PM)
Nep in effect for 30 years and today, my people STILL need help.
Aku kemaluan besar.

Either :
A) my people are too dumb and lazy, or
B) there was something very very wrong with the way nep programmes were implemented.

It's obvious which is the answer.
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u mean (A)? laugh.gif
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post Apr 1 2013, 12:17 AM


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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Apr 1 2013, 12:03 AM)
Although the chinese is the most wealthy in malaysia ..........
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no wor... unsure.gif

u cant refer to Robert Kuok and be happy deep inside and think that chinese is better than the rest.

(same applies to indians who look at Ananda K)

The Chinese contribute 90% tax is bullcrap

30-40% of revenue comes from oil & gas, known as Petronas.


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post Apr 1 2013, 12:56 AM


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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Apr 1 2013, 12:03 AM)
u mean (A)? laugh.gif
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(B) u idiot. Who do u think came up with NEP and all the songlap ways? Who is enjoying their wealth from songlap now? U cainis can go play far far when it comes to songlapping, u can never match our meleis smart cunning ways. Just look at sarawak cm and compare with penang cm. U cainis shud be ashamed at yourselves!
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Mar 31 2013, 04:14 PM)
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hahaha  laugh.gif  hmmmmm ok,......
just  rolleyes.gif  wait the GE 13 result .......  our nation will racially divide
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Not racially divided. I sense that it will be ideologically divided.

The Malays are now into three category, fascists, theocrats and moderates/liberals.

However, it will be made to look like its racially divided, since fascists don't accept defeat well and they are programmed to obey and believe everything their party leader tells them.

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when everything fails, blame the chinese. Seriously, we had enuff being scapegoat for 50 years.
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MR. 30% DATANG LAGI!!!


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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Apr 1 2013, 12:56 AM)
(B) u idiot. Who do u think came up with NEP and all the songlap ways? Who is enjoying their wealth from songlap now? U cainis can go play far far when it comes to songlapping, u can never match our meleis smart cunning ways. Just look at sarawak cm and compare with penang cm. U cainis shud be ashamed at yourselves!
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Im chinese but i aint offended a bit. Somehow this is so true!
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We had been racially divided by the 'Non-Bumi'and 'Bumi' phrase for past decades! LoL!
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Yes, but it was never the "true" reflection, if you ask me. Anyway, that's a discussion for when Malaysians are matured enough to handle discussions on such matters. For now, let's stick to our brain-dead fascists vs unhappy others.
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Apr 1 2013, 12:56 AM)
(B) u idiot. Who do u think came up with NEP and all the songlap ways? Who is enjoying their wealth from songlap now? U cainis can go play far far when it comes to songlapping, u can never match our meleis smart cunning ways. Just look at sarawak cm and compare with penang cm. U cainis shud be ashamed at yourselves!
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i dont know your trolling or plain stupid. if chinese rule malaysia, you can say bye bye to your settinghan homes. you know that china is one of the top songlap contries? be grateful penang cm a cainis help develop a malay country whose own race cheating own people.
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We're killing you slowly by handicapping your plp! They will be extinct by the time oil depleted!
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You? You pipu killing my pipu? Dream on! Keep on living in your dream lala land.

Our own umngok meleis is already doing that million times better than what u think u can do.
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suicai having fun. lol...
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QUOTE(DMZ383Abu @ Apr 1 2013, 01:22 AM)
Nampak tak permainan dia! LooooL!
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babi betul. aku terkena permainan dia
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Apr 1 2013, 12:56 AM)
(B) u idiot. Who do u think came up with NEP and all the songlap ways? Who is enjoying their wealth from songlap now? U cainis can go play far far when it comes to songlapping, u can never match our meleis smart cunning ways. Just look at sarawak cm and compare with penang cm. U cainis shud be ashamed at yourselves!
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I was kidding lar... laugh.gif

The difference between those two cm that u mentioned, lies in the people n the state they govern.

The swkian see a feudal lord they must serve, Penangites see a people representative serving them
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I have yet to meet a non chinese that read the china press
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Huh? If u go to construction site, wed, sat and sun you can see a lot indonesian workers buy n read. The night version of china press. Mostly they grab the main page n throw the rest.
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QUOTE(DMZ383Abu @ Apr 1 2013, 01:06 AM)
We're killing you slowly by handicapping your plp! They will be extinct by the time oil depleted!
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Not really. Still can rogol gf n sell.
Bapa ayam is good income.
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QUOTE(blinkxox @ Apr 1 2013, 01:04 AM)
MR. 30% DATANG LAGI!!!
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Ask for more. 50% .... give him 100% he also can run it himself.
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No wonder chinese votes important. Chinese shouldn't punish daim and friends, shouldn't deny them to have houses like this.
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ya ya go tell that at kuching.chinese la... taib also no dare comment them even there already support opposite n time.

chinese always the lead when come to trying new thing because our ancestor go through so many kingdom and even being rule by foreigner. we all know nothing last forever it just about try and error only.


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It's wrong to forgive criminals just because of their race. I guess some people just can't understand that yet.
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suicai having fun. lol...
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Lol yeah.... Either their troll detector malfunction or they really didnt get it. Haha...!
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It's called THE WORLD'S BEST DEMOCRACY!

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The rakyat deserves the rights to punish who are in power who are songlaping the rakyat's money and abuse the powers and trust given to them by the rakyat
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Lol yeah.... Either their troll detector malfunction or they really didnt get it. Haha...!
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