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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V129, All time high!

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post Mar 29 2013, 12:51 PM

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wah 1st check in
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post Mar 29 2013, 02:56 PM

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so quiet today, not much drama. want see more drama, so add spice into my life.
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post Mar 29 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Mar 29 2013, 02:57 PM)
unsure.gif 3.00pm already, volume only 350m lot, damn low
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cry.gif I see the volume also sad.gif .
Want buy for long term, nothing can buy.
Want goreng also miss the morning goreng mood.
perhaps just turn of my comp and do something else. shakehead.gif
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post Mar 29 2013, 03:57 PM

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waiting for 4 pm news. See whether drama will happen in stock market.
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post Mar 29 2013, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 29 2013, 04:00 PM)
Over diversification to me is like one is losing his own confidence and judgments.

A good way to justify or cover up one own weaknesses.

Like the Chinese saying " the Fear in one out of a million"
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I am in process of doing concentration sad.gif .
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post Mar 29 2013, 04:44 PM

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so no drama happened? see u guys next week then.
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post Mar 30 2013, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 29 2013, 04:47 PM)
I think Jib Gor is a good Kong Meng student , spreading news before the actual actions  laugh.gif
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No more fooled by our jib gor. Waste my time only.
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post Mar 30 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 30 2013, 10:12 AM)
It depends which plantation, major plantation prices has not budged much. So I will give these a miss as I cannot capture the low CPO price factor. All the big plantation are priced as if the CPO will rebound to 3k/ton shortly, also their trees are more or less matured..  doh.gif

Smaller plantations and those listed on SGX fall in tandem with CPO... those are my target. Especially those with young plantations which has not fruited yet, hence will give higher revenue (from increased fruit production) in the coming years.

But that is justs me, not suitable for those without holding power. laugh.gif Might take years ...

Don't follow my holland tipsy..
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Uncle gark, will Wilmar be one of your favourite long term holding for plantation? if not why? Hopefully can give some insight to us as you're insider in the industry flex.gif thumbup.gif
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post Mar 30 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 30 2013, 01:32 PM)
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I tot u already sold all ur wilmar shares
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I want to re-buy it.I got some fresh ammo. smile.gif
anyway off topic, I wonder how Affin bank attract you beside valuation wise perspective.

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 30 2013, 01:55 PM)
Wilmar lauric (ie. palm oil) division is doing a fantastic job.. it is just the china crushing operations which is bringing everything down. I will wait for at least they can break even for their crushing plant, then i would invest. But their valuation is very high > 10 PE... hmm.gif
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This is what I read too last time when I go in, It seems like the operation in China not so impressive bring down the overall result . Actually I am not truly understand what is happening in their Oil Seeds and Grain business.

And the report from last year 2012 3Q says that their sugar business making loss due to the delay of operation due to weather/ season factor - wet weather. I have truly little knowledge in these operation how does it works.

The only confirm things is lower palm oil price booast their profit for palm and laurics.

Valuation very high I am not sure, Personally think quite fair the share price currently. smile.gif

Thanks for your valuable opinion notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 30 2013, 02:51 PM)
Haha good point bro.

1. Free float of affin is less than 20% !!!

2. Bank of East Asia owned 23%. Which means it was indirectly owned by quek.
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Point noted, will consider it, but currently myself holding too many financial counter already...

Thanks notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 1 2013, 03:37 PM)
Tin Hai effect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ting_Hai_effect

for everyone reading & speculating...Hang Seng will fell how much ???  drool.gif
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bleh, kinda bullshit to me
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 1 2013, 04:12 PM)
I do not see why people need to be so panic if they hold Cash laugh.gif

Maybe chance of a lifetime coming the way..........

Murphy Law works.. hmm.gif
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wah so many chance a life time meh... last 5 years just crashed, now another lifetime chance coming. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 1 2013, 04:19 PM)
juz boring....dont hv Tin Hai effect.... tongue.gif

CASH put in FD ....can sleep in peace.
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inflation factor "Tax" your money away cry.gif .
Imagine keep RM 1 million, inflation is 7% - 9% ( as we know gov statistic is quite bullshit), FD only 3%, lost could be around 4-6%. Which equates to RM40k to 60k. sweat.gif
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post Apr 1 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 1 2013, 09:54 PM)
The thing is experts start to project " bubbles " in US Economy liao.

Don't u think US markets are too high for its present fragile economy ?

Could be quite scary if it turns out to be true. hmm.gif
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If based on historical chart, yes it is at high record.

But personally think, with current cheap interest rate, massive QE all around the central bank, I would argue some of the blue chips still in fair value.

The economy thingy hmm.gif , heard from various expert..some say recovering, some say in fragile mood, quite mixing feeling.

Anyway I just put some % of my money in US now, so won't be hurt to own some stocks to hedge inflation. sweat.gif

Just my opinion , don't attack me if I indirectly guide some of you to holland laugh.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 1 2013, 06:28 PM)
HI foofoosasa,
 
  notworthy.gif forgive me  notworthy.gif my sharing just for reading and speculating.
April FOOL day..
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U didn't nothing wrong dude, no need ask for any forgiveness.

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post Apr 1 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:08 PM)
It is the herd behavior that decides the directions of the markets  hmm.gif

If majority think US Boleh, chances it would move higher.

I remember many experts gave calls to park money into treasury last year  , turning out to a big wrong.
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Yea I could be wrong.But I always ignore those herd news

Yea sometimes herd behaviour decides the direction, but many of the times the herd found out it wrong in later. Having said that, the herd might be correct too, we probably going to enter another big bull for another 2-3 years ( Which I don't know).

If the overall company's net earning doesn't improve, no matter how the herd behaviour behave, it will be corrected if it is proved wrong. For example in China, the index goes down a lot recently because the herd proved to be wrong, Most of the companies fall in terms of net earnings.

But if overall earning getting improved, we can see another wave of bull run. ( due to cheap interest rate, some of the blue chips earning more and more brows.gif )

So basically in China, I am opposing the herd now...keep buying and buying. But in US, I probably agree with the herds.... buy a little bit.

my amateur opinion tongue.gif


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:29 PM)
How the economy going to improve or companies generate more profits if there are no herd lavish spending ?

U see Samsung S4 has 4X more pre orders than S3 ( herd behaviors again ), then u see company profits soar ?

If all prefer to hide money under their beds, then Samsung goes Holland ?
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If you're talking about very specific stock here, some blue chips stocks still improved in terms of earning. Don't forget, many of the blue chips in US such as consumer stocks still improved in term of earning. Many of their customer base are based on not only in US, but oversea. Some are daily spending which hardly to avoid no matter what.

If you say techno stock like Apple & Samsung, I have no expertise in these stocks. I rather trade with this stock instead of buy and pray for outcome.

So depends on which stocks I think.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 2 2013, 06:55 PM)
No point fighting the manipulators  icon_rolleyes.gif

Are u chart based or sentiment based  hmm.gif

Either one, they can easily beat u with their loads of money.

Just my 0.5sen analysis.
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Agreed nod.gif especially this little market.
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Wah today whole day drama.... up and down like roller coaster.


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