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STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V129, All time high!
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V129, All time high!
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Mar 29 2013, 12:51 PM
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Mar 29 2013, 02:56 PM
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so quiet today, not much drama. want see more drama, so add spice into my life.
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Mar 29 2013, 03:01 PM
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Mar 29 2013, 03:57 PM
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waiting for 4 pm news. See whether drama will happen in stock market.
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Mar 29 2013, 04:05 PM
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Mar 29 2013, 04:44 PM
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so no drama happened? see u guys next week then.
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Mar 30 2013, 08:31 AM
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Mar 30 2013, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 30 2013, 10:12 AM) It depends which plantation, major plantation prices has not budged much. So I will give these a miss as I cannot capture the low CPO price factor. All the big plantation are priced as if the CPO will rebound to 3k/ton shortly, also their trees are more or less matured.. Uncle gark, will Wilmar be one of your favourite long term holding for plantation? if not why? Hopefully can give some insight to us as you're insider in the industry Smaller plantations and those listed on SGX fall in tandem with CPO... those are my target. Especially those with young plantations which has not fruited yet, hence will give higher revenue (from increased fruit production) in the coming years. But that is justs me, not suitable for those without holding power. Don't follow my holland tipsy.. |
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Mar 30 2013, 01:35 PM
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Mar 30 2013, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 30 2013, 01:55 PM) Wilmar lauric (ie. palm oil) division is doing a fantastic job.. it is just the china crushing operations which is bringing everything down. I will wait for at least they can break even for their crushing plant, then i would invest. But their valuation is very high > 10 PE... This is what I read too last time when I go in, It seems like the operation in China not so impressive bring down the overall result . Actually I am not truly understand what is happening in their Oil Seeds and Grain business. And the report from last year 2012 3Q says that their sugar business making loss due to the delay of operation due to weather/ season factor - wet weather. I have truly little knowledge in these operation how does it works. The only confirm things is lower palm oil price booast their profit for palm and laurics. Valuation very high I am not sure, Personally think quite fair the share price currently. Thanks for your valuable opinion This post has been edited by foofoosasa: Mar 30 2013, 05:27 PM |
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Mar 30 2013, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 30 2013, 02:51 PM) Haha good point bro. Point noted, will consider it, but currently myself holding too many financial counter already...1. Free float of affin is less than 20% !!! 2. Bank of East Asia owned 23%. Which means it was indirectly owned by quek. Thanks This post has been edited by foofoosasa: Mar 30 2013, 05:27 PM |
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Apr 1 2013, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 1 2013, 03:37 PM) Tin Hai effect bleh, kinda bullshit to mehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ting_Hai_effect for everyone reading & speculating...Hang Seng will fell how much ??? |
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Apr 1 2013, 05:42 PM
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Apr 1 2013, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 1 2013, 04:19 PM) inflation factor "Tax" your money away Imagine keep RM 1 million, inflation is 7% - 9% ( as we know gov statistic is quite bullshit), FD only 3%, lost could be around 4-6%. Which equates to RM40k to 60k. |
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Apr 1 2013, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 1 2013, 09:54 PM) The thing is experts start to project " bubbles " in US Economy liao. If based on historical chart, yes it is at high record.Don't u think US markets are too high for its present fragile economy ? Could be quite scary if it turns out to be true. But personally think, with current cheap interest rate, massive QE all around the central bank, I would argue some of the blue chips still in fair value. The economy thingy Anyway I just put some % of my money in US now, so won't be hurt to own some stocks to hedge inflation. Just my opinion , don't attack me if I indirectly guide some of you to holland |
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Apr 1 2013, 10:08 PM
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Apr 1 2013, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:08 PM) It is the herd behavior that decides the directions of the markets Yea I could be wrong.But I always ignore those herd newsIf majority think US Boleh, chances it would move higher. I remember many experts gave calls to park money into treasury last year , turning out to a big wrong. Yea sometimes herd behaviour decides the direction, but many of the times the herd found out it wrong in later. Having said that, the herd might be correct too, we probably going to enter another big bull for another 2-3 years ( Which I don't know). If the overall company's net earning doesn't improve, no matter how the herd behaviour behave, it will be corrected if it is proved wrong. For example in China, the index goes down a lot recently because the herd proved to be wrong, Most of the companies fall in terms of net earnings. But if overall earning getting improved, we can see another wave of bull run. ( due to cheap interest rate, some of the blue chips earning more and more So basically in China, I am opposing the herd now...keep buying and buying. But in US, I probably agree with the herds.... buy a little bit. my amateur opinion |
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Apr 1 2013, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:29 PM) How the economy going to improve or companies generate more profits if there are no herd lavish spending ? If you're talking about very specific stock here, some blue chips stocks still improved in terms of earning. Don't forget, many of the blue chips in US such as consumer stocks still improved in term of earning. Many of their customer base are based on not only in US, but oversea. Some are daily spending which hardly to avoid no matter what.U see Samsung S4 has 4X more pre orders than S3 ( herd behaviors again ), then u see company profits soar ? If all prefer to hide money under their beds, then Samsung goes Holland ? If you say techno stock like Apple & Samsung, I have no expertise in these stocks. I rather trade with this stock instead of buy and pray for outcome. So depends on which stocks I think.... |
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Apr 2 2013, 07:01 PM
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Apr 3 2013, 06:08 PM
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Wah today whole day drama.... up and down like roller coaster.
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