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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V129, All time high!

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SKY 1809
post Apr 4 2013, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 4 2013, 11:45 AM)
safer to use old yardsticks.. cause if the future growth did not pan out still safe.

But have to make sure ler, that the company can generate at least some future growth.

Double, triple profit is too speculative...

Like plantation, we look for tree maturity and unplanted landbank. laugh.gif Even CPO stagnant.. still got growth.  tongue.gif
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Wow , if u use old yardsticks and still can spot low PE with super goreng ones.

Then u are super good liao. notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 4 2013, 11:29 AM)
Tune Insurance ok ah?

Me looking at it for a long term play...
Not in a rush to buy though.
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Ah Boon provided tip of the day year thumbup.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 4 2013, 11:49 AM)
Wow , if u use old yardsticks and still can spot low PE with super goreng ones.

Then u are super good liao. notworthy.gif
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Super goreng ones hard ler... that one unpredictable. sweat.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 4 2013, 11:45 AM)
safer to use old yardsticks.. cause if the future growth did not pan out still safe.

But have to make sure ler, that the company can generate at least some future growth.

Double, triple profit is too speculative...

Like plantation, we look for tree maturity and unplanted landbank. laugh.gif Even CPO stagnant.. still got growth.  tongue.gif
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But somehow u bank in the future ( good ) values of the Plantation lands to buy.

If plantation lands depreciate like a car, then u still want to buy laugh.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 4 2013, 11:54 AM)
But somehow u  bank in the future ( good )  values of the Plantation lands to buy.

If plantation lands depreciate like a car, then u still want to buy  laugh.gif
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Look at re-valuation date mah.. you can still find some plantation landbank still valued in 1980's at 2k /ha... how to depreciate... laugh.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 4 2013, 11:34 AM)
Got Favco laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 4 2013, 11:35 AM)
Last time got when PE very low that time ... pity sold liao.  sad.gif

Now too high to get in... doh.gif
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FAVCO is one of the stocks mentioned by Cold Eyes lah...

Last night I check its latest quarterly results. Some of my observations:
- Full year profit for 2012 up, but last quarter profit down
- Cost of sales increased
- FCF also down
- In Performance Review section, quarterly results have been glossed over, and only full year results are mentioned

I feel a bit uneasy with the counter hmm.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 4 2013, 11:49 AM)
Ah Boon provided tip of the day year thumbup.gif
Ah Tan again put me on table.

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post Apr 4 2013, 12:09 PM

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Boon3, my remisier ask me put position on daiman. lol.

any thoughts? i didn't monitor iskandar potential related shares lately. Last i look at was Tebrau, before it goreng. lol
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today's star is Daiman
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post Apr 4 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 4 2013, 12:04 PM)
FAVCO is one of the stocks mentioned by Cold Eyes lah...

Last night I check its latest quarterly results. Some of my observations:
- Full year profit for 2012 up, but last quarter profit down
- Cost of sales increased
- FCF also down
- In Performance Review section, quarterly results have been glossed over, and only full year results are mentioned

I feel a bit uneasy with the counter  hmm.gif
You want to be good then you better stop associating this stock is recommended by who and that stock is recommended by who.

Much better is to make your own recommendation to yourself. smile.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 4 2013, 11:57 AM)
Look at re-valuation dateĀ  mah.. you can still find some plantation landbank still valued in 1980's at 2k /ha... how to depreciate... laugh.gif
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Ya, I bought Asiatic at rm 1, just like u banking on land value factor.

But over time I changed from farsighted to shortsighted just like yr Favco blush.gif

But LUCKILY still got change to sell a bit at rm 9 or so ( can say by luck only.)

Now I do not know whether I am farsighted or shortsighted yawn.gif

Time can really test one own patience .

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post Apr 4 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(cadmus @ Apr 4 2013, 12:09 PM)
Boon3, my remisier ask me put position on daiman. lol.

any thoughts? i didn't monitor iskandar potential related shares lately. Last i look at was Tebrau, before it goreng. lol
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Buy! buy! buy!

Mortgage your house, your car, your wife... brows.gif Just buy!

Super stock recommended by Ah Boon...

Guaranteed road to riches... drool.gif

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Boon3
post Apr 4 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(cadmus @ Apr 4 2013, 12:09 PM)
Boon3, my remisier ask me put position on daiman. lol.

any thoughts? i didn't monitor iskandar potential related shares lately. Last i look at was Tebrau, before it goreng. lol
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I think your remiser got call from me is it? whistling.gif

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Monday's paper: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...14&sec=business

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Daiman's land bank is how much?
How much is the stock's market cap?

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post Apr 4 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 4 2013, 12:04 PM)
FAVCO is one of the stocks mentioned by Cold Eyes lah...

Last night I check its latest quarterly results. Some of my observations:
- Full year profit for 2012 up, but last quarter profit down
- Cost of sales increased
- FCF also down
- In Performance Review section, quarterly results have been glossed over, and only full year results are mentioned

I feel a bit uneasy with the counterĀ  hmm.gif
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But u just stop at the present, what about the future.

Why Muhibbah did not sue the Government for losing rm 400min Asia HUb.

I think they are fairly compensated with good projects ........

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post Apr 4 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 4 2013, 12:13 PM)
Ya, I bought Asiatic at rm 1, just like u banking on land value factor.

But over time I changed from farsighted to shortsighted just like yr Favco blush.gif 

But LUCKILY still got change to sell a bit at rm 9 or so ( can say by luck only.)

Now I do not know whether  I am farsighted or shortsighted yawn.gif

Time can really test one own patience .
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Nice return there thumbup.gif

I guess u must be holding Asiatic in early 2000's
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 4 2013, 12:16 PM)
Buy! buy! buy!

Mortgage your house, your car, your wife... brows.gif Just buy!

Super stock recommended by Ah Boon...

Guaranteed road to riches... drool.gif

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Whatttt????

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SKY 1809
post Apr 4 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 4 2013, 12:20 PM)
Nice return there thumbup.gif

I guess u must be holding Asiatic in early 2000's
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Well, Celcom was my fav way back in Year 2009.

Now, peiseh if u asked me about this stock cos I sold it for chicken profit.
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post Apr 4 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 4 2013, 12:19 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif
I think your remiser got call from me is it?  whistling.gif

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Monday's paper: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...14&sec=business

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Daiman's land bank is how much?
How much is the stock's market cap?

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Finally u submitted some homework today tongue.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 4 2013, 12:22 PM)
Well, Celcom was my fav way back in Year 2009.

Now, peiseh if u asked me about this stock cos I sold it for chicken profit.
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Turnaround require years to have end result, at least 2-3 years based on my observation

I'm sure i will not invest immediately during the downfall, but i will observe its financial result by quarter/annually, figure definitely won't lie icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 4 2013, 12:29 PM)
Finally u submitted some homework today tongue.gif
Yes...

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 4 2013, 12:29 PM)
Finally u submitted some homework today tongue.gif
Turnaround require years to have end result, at least 2-3 years based on my observation

I'm sure i will not invest immediately during the downfall, but i will observe its financial result by quarter/annually, figure definitely won't lie icon_rolleyes.gif
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It still about timing , right ?

If common sense tell u it can turnaround, then u can get it very cheap.

Of course, when u are 100% sure, price could double or triple.

That is the fair price u have to pay for.

That is why early birds in property investments can really make lot of money ( if u get it right )

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