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 Monk Discussion V5 - 1.08 Live!, even better party king with 20%GL buff

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post Apr 25 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(samuraislash @ Apr 25 2013, 08:24 AM)
+1

tried with free from nat sets at 200k dps. farm cota with sickle sc, 2.7% LS, 50% CD + EF 1.1k sc still can go. didnt dare yet to go for slaughter field.

Vagabond u can drop LOH if u got both wep total LS 5% >  as ur crit rate proc is good.

tested on PTR free from Loh and Ls with 6k life regen with the new buff. it still far away for monk to stay away from life leech gear. hope blizz increase life regen a bit more or  reduce life regen per tick.
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nice to know. i downloaded the update to the PTR, have not got time to try it yet... fun to farm act1???
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post Apr 25 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Apr 25 2013, 01:54 PM)
wait for me for project100... I see fe3doe, gladfly, spacejimmy all ahead of me already.

Su.cky connection can't PL much
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ya, i also have network problem lately... not much fun hitting air or worst keep dying...
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post Apr 25 2013, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Apr 25 2013, 05:54 PM)
nice to know. i downloaded the update to the PTR, have not got time to try it yet... fun to farm act1???
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hitting faster of coz. need to kite if arcane or pool.
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post Apr 25 2013, 07:41 PM

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btw does MoC rune owe buff other also...
it don right

cause when i use my DH and my friend use monk
my crit is the same....
and yes my DH was close to the monk..
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post Apr 25 2013, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 25 2013, 07:41 PM)
btw does MoC rune owe buff other also...
it don right

cause when i use my DH and my friend use monk
my crit is the same....
and yes my DH was close to the monk..
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MoC is a de-buff so yes you can take it as a buff to your damage or your party members damage since de-buffing mobs by making them take more damage equals you/your party member dealing more damage.

But strictly speaking is not a buff.

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 25 2013, 07:41 PM)
btw does MoC rune owe buff other also...
it don right

cause when i use my DH and my friend use monk
my crit is the same....
and yes my DH was close to the monk..
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correct as 2890 said... i hope the mob is near u... it should take additional damage if u see some red Shuriken on the ground it's standing...

see the mobs with red ground surrounding me? it's not very incredibly big...


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post Apr 26 2013, 01:00 AM

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so what does it mean by
your damage increase by 15%
(this is no brainer la...u can see ur crit increase and ur dps)
and
enemy taken more damage by 15%
(how bout this...what does it effect ...does the mobs life shorten by 15%
cause obviously we don see the crit is increase here...)


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post Apr 26 2013, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 26 2013, 01:00 AM)
so what does it mean by
your damage increase by 15%
(this is no brainer la...u can see ur crit increase and ur dps)
and
enemy taken more damage by 15%
(how bout this...what does it effect ...does the mobs life shorten by 15%
cause obviously we don see the crit is increase here...)
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where did the 15% come from?
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post Apr 26 2013, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 26 2013, 01:00 AM)
so what does it mean by
your damage increase by 15%
(this is no brainer la...u can see ur crit increase and ur dps)
and
enemy taken more damage by 15%
(how bout this...what does it effect ...does the mobs life shorten by 15%
cause obviously we don see the crit is increase here...)
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you should see increased in Crit damage. it should be 24% if Overawe is used (all the time)... and if it's 3 seconds during activation, it's 48%.

i tested it.

the only possible reason why u didnt see increased in the damage is probably because THAT mob your friend you hitting is probably not within your your friend MOC Aura.

ps: mob didn't get decreased in HP

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lksing78
post Apr 26 2013, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 26 2013, 01:12 AM)
where did the 15% come from?
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just example only... tongue.gif

so conclusion is
your damage is increase by 15% = enermy taken more damage by15% doh.gif laugh.gif

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post Apr 26 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 26 2013, 03:06 AM)
just example only... tongue.gif

so conclusion is
your damage is increase by 15% = enermy taken more damage by15%  doh.gif  laugh.gif
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almost true. if u r attacking mob that closer to monk. XD.
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post Apr 26 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 26 2013, 02:06 AM)
just example only... tongue.gif

so conclusion is
your damage is increase by 15% = enermy taken more damage by15%  doh.gif  laugh.gif
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post Apr 26 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 26 2013, 02:06 AM)
just example only... tongue.gif

so conclusion is
your damage is increase by 15% = enermy taken more damage by15%  doh.gif  laugh.gif
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NOT only your damage, EVERYBODY's damage on THAT enemy is increase by x%.

So its a debuff.
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post Apr 26 2013, 09:34 AM

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MoC + cripling wave + forbidden palace. max can go 73% more dmg.

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post Apr 26 2013, 09:53 AM

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;fgX!cabcac

Max buff to 375% more damage. Now imagine you use it along with Flying Dragon and you can reach double of it.
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post Apr 26 2013, 10:12 AM

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hehehe.. yeah forgot bout the exploding palm.. total spirit use to spam all 120.. if combination buff and debuff more spirit used.
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lksing78
post Apr 26 2013, 11:33 AM

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the bell would be more effective if use with cyclone strike.. nod.gif

nothing insane about his build la..most of u guys here can done it de sweat.gif
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@waklu & @feedoe,
remember we talk about bell to RD elites = gg previously?
i have 43k HP, 4k armor & 450 AR using TR/Bell, bell to RD = gg;
yesterday i tried same gears & same build, but just change 1 passive to STI so i hv 5.4k armor in total and i can bell RD elites without dying.
i tried couple of runs, all just stand there bell RD without dying.
pls try STI and see.. smile.gif

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