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 Monk Discussion V5 - 1.08 Live!, even better party king with 20%GL buff

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post Apr 7 2013, 03:52 PM

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i like your Wall of Light bell!

so fun to see a group of white mob crushed into light particles when u drop a bell!

i m using Wall of light too! but my bell not as powerful as yours!
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post Apr 9 2013, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(faheem @ Apr 9 2013, 01:53 AM)
dia kena fallen bom at keep 2 near me then say me not help him.. sohai 1

then he say gonna make a report  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 9 2013, 10:46 AM)
RD no feel to my monk leh... brows.gif
i just do usual atk...hit hit hit ...bell

maybe my dps are low sad.gif
so it tickle elite with RD so they don RD me thumbup.gif
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Same here. With 600k ehp... RD can no longer bully me. I bell them just the same.
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post Apr 9 2013, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Apr 9 2013, 02:25 PM)
yah this guys i always check his gear n his spear wan let go for 20billion  shocking.gif
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waaaaaaayyyyyy overprice. sweat.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Apr 9 2013, 05:08 PM)
wub.gif female monk... nice catch, me gusta!
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post Apr 10 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 10 2013, 12:35 PM)
ok I've done an interview with the RD elite on a 5% LS skorn
using WoL:WoL
I'll post my interview later on so we can watch it together....

pls bare with me if i kill to slow for u guys to enjoy, cause my dps suks cry.gif
not as many dps as other veteran monk in here sweat.gif
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video! me wan video!

i kind of like Wave of Light more than Empowered Wave. Although in calculation EW look like more damage per spirit, but somehow, i 'feel' like counter-productive if i keep dropping bell every second. I have fast attack speed 2.59/2.27. (Attack speed affects your Bell animation, when u roll the mystic daibo, etc)

Not sure what's really happend (will investigate), but I get max satisfaction when I pair Flashin+Wave of Light (1200%), hit hit hit to generate spirit and cyclone a little, then MoC+WoL, regenerate spirit and cyclone and repeat!

Also, I fall back to Thunderclap as I have EF. Really help to chase down feared elites, it's like continuous attacks even when they are feared. I suspect my Follower with cold attacks help slow down the mobs.

Will make video when I get better Internet connection in 2 day...

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post Apr 12 2013, 03:43 AM

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Field of Slaughter MP10... how we do it in Kingsport!

201k DPS, 602k EHP (unbuff)

Watch in 720p please!



My internet connection is still bad... doh.gif

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post Apr 12 2013, 01:27 PM

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MP10 Fields of Slaughter. This time with no Internet problem. brows.gif

That's how we do it in Kingsport.

DW with respectable Bell damage!


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post Apr 12 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Apr 12 2013, 02:49 PM)
Bro,

Just curious, seems like you seldom use Bell in that session. So it is really beneficial to have it in your skill build? Plus, you are using WoL correct? With one WoL used, you are down to 50% spirit pool. Why not EW then?

With ToC and no spirit regen items, can you really cycle spamming of Bell? You already have Serenity and Blind in there, is there still a need for Bell in your setup bro?

IMHO, if you really want to use Bell, EW might be better for you since your SP pool is not max. Why not include 2nd spirit generator, and use Combination Strike? I reckon it would be much better.

Overall, as yuhhaur monk, urs are the one I look up to for DW setups  laugh.gif

Just my 2c bro  notworthy.gif
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Sharp observation bro. Those are the points I need to know as well.

1) Yup, definitely not spamming bell every second but when when I do, it will be pair with Flashing blind / MoC for max effect.

2) Previously I was using Quicken, I 'feel' like too much spirit and start spamming Bell. Even so, I dont think it is any faster and always end up in situation against elite where no more white mobs.

3) Tested EW too, but I dont think 2xEW always do more damage than 1xWoL. There is some time needed to cast the Bell too, time which I can hit and get some damage and produce cyclone. My FoT crits can reach 500k damage.

In my testing spirit+bell build is not faster than my rojak build I used in the video. Not using 2H coz I really like fast attack speed. Would like to see if some spirit+bell and/or 2H build can clear the map faster? Not a challenge, just want to know. thumbup.gif

Good that some monk moving to 2H. Diversity is good for everyone. On the other hand, some godly 1H price is dropping. wub.gif



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post Apr 12 2013, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Apr 12 2013, 05:44 PM)
Debate: Holy cowithgun is using bell as one of the burst damage. yuhhaur is using bell as main attack.

Both side win. BELL WIN!
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LOL! agree. Bell is awesome. Not looking for a fight!! Amitaba....

More choice to play = better
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Apr 12 2013, 10:23 PM)
i gonna show my cyclone strike power this is my favourite build skill..yah now alot ppl going WOL bell. so lets some ppl hav alot choice build here...

just enjoy thks for watching
http://youtu.be/LDMjfO6fumQ
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no bell? ok! thumbup.gif look like a lot of fun nod.gif
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 12 2013, 10:30 PM)
Eh guys, you better stop posting such vids man. Last time when the DH with tentacles was imba, they kept posting vids of tentacles destroying everything. Guess what, got nerf.

So control sikit la. Later bells get nerf.
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Let's hope not.
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post Apr 12 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Apr 12 2013, 11:01 PM)
And here's my Nirvana Bell:

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OMG! seriously none stop bell even with DW! there are probably more than 100 bells in that 1 min + video. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 14 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 13 2013, 10:39 AM)
welcome back to Diablo! a couple of things you must try (in case you have not):

1. Weapons, both need upgrade. Get Life Steal and socket. Sacrifice LoH if you must. With the new Bell, you basically recover HP faster than anything else with LS.
2. Add some monks in first page, do some Uber, get yourself a Hellfire ring and replace your Wailing Host.
3. Try the new crafts; craft bracer, gain some dex and aim for some vit. May be the Chest too.
4. Get yourself either Inna Chest or Pant to go with your Inna Radiance; get another 130 dex.


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post Apr 15 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 14 2013, 06:42 PM)
God damn keys sure hard to get.
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It is, even for most experience player, never got too much keys... especially Key of Hatred, dont really like to make run in Dalgur Oasis, the map is too big and Key Warden can be anywhere...

I see that you have change both weapon and using Bell now... flex.gif

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post Apr 15 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Apr 15 2013, 04:14 PM)
yuhhaur
didnt knew WothF got a minor teleport  laugh.gif

thanks for sharing the info bro
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I think only Fists of Fury in WothF has a short dash.
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post Apr 15 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:35 PM)
You guys need a nerf for the sake of the game. With the upcoming patch that reduces monster hp gain to 50% only, i really think WoL's damage has gotta be reduced. (I don't know about other skills but currently WoL dmg is too much)

I don't really know much about monk's mechanics but what I know is at this rate, most players will start asking for MP20.

If they are going to promote multiplayer then that's the way to go by reducing the damage on monk's by say 30%.

Let's be honest, on MP10, which thoughts come to your head?

1. I better be careful or i might die OR
2. Awesome, let's see how much damage my bell can go.

I'm pretty sure is the second one since i've seen tons of vids here with different names. Don't get it wrong, i've nothing against your class but for the sake of the game, your damage buffs or skills damage has to go down.

and yeah, you guys saw how exploding palm one shit ubers right? is fun at first if you do it but say 100 runs doing that on MP10, where's the challenge?
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LOL! nope. WoL is jes fine! It takes 50% of our spirit to produce 1 Bell (except Empowered Wave). It also take some time to cast the spell. It also knock out mobs... not really party friendly...

How is that compare to HOTA? 20% of Barb furry... and some barb i know can Hota all the way in Keeper 2...

For the sake of the game, dont ask for nerf, instead focus on fixing the itemization. whistling.gif

(YEAH! bell is awesome!!!!)

On the other hand, look like DH getting some buff:

Rapid Fire Cost: 20 Hatred initially, and an additional 106 Hatred while channeling / Rapidly fire for 276438% weapon damage as Physical.
Bombardment : Rapidly fire grenades that explode for 345414% weapon damage as Fire to all enemies within a 48 yard radius.
Fire Support : While channeling Rapid Fire, launch 2 homing rockets every second. Each rocket deals 35145% weapon damage as Physical to nearby targets.
Withering Fire : Reduces the initial Hatred cost to 510, and ignites your arrows, causing them to deal Fire damage.


I am not complaining that most DH has like 400k DPS... sweat.gif brows.gif

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post Apr 15 2013, 05:31 PM

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Another thing, the reduced mobs HP to 50% per additional player is welcomed! Really need that to carry some 100k-ish newbies that also farm in MP10 public game.... shakehead.gif

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post Apr 15 2013, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 15 2013, 05:34 PM)
those newbies can do mp1 or whatever. Why should they do MP10 if they are new, low on DPS/EHP?

remember inferno before nerF? i completed it with a 4 man team by doing 4x100m relay. First person run and die, second person tp on first person grave and continue running. All the way to diablo. Yeah we ran like cowards but it was fun!

Yeah those were the days.
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of coz i remember, those were the days when completing inferno with monk was almost impossible... not even with 4x100m corpse jumping.. Belial was impossible to break.

only DH hang around in Inferno.... back in the days... selling 1k blue gear for 1 mil each... sweat.gif

i can see Bliz fixed stuff... hehee... now, Monk roams the Inferno... kakakakaka.. with the new mobs density in 1.08... DH may need to change some play style too... yawn.gif




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post Apr 15 2013, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 15 2013, 05:49 PM)
sounds good but somehow streamers are gonna destroy it and they get even richer.
yeah i remember because i was destroying stuff with tentacles and is one of the reason why i made so much gold as well.

I don't mind dying at all but please bring game the old difficulty. this is getting boring

lol fixed stuff by nerfing the DH each patch and giving monks insane damage? lol.. i rest my case.
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insane power = me like! laugh.gif

seriously, monk bell is awesome, but i don't think it warrant a nerf. monk in general is getting awesome, but insane power? unfortunately no. (barbarina is WW-ing away as we speak....)

ps: and if u still wanna complain to nerf something, u r in the wrong thread... i mean, u should be in barbarina thread. grumble.gif

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