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TSwork_tgr
post Mar 28 2013, 01:10 AM, updated 13y ago

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should the workout starts both in the same session or one part in each session ?

chest or abs first ?

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post Mar 31 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Mar 28 2013, 01:40 AM)
It doesn't matter all that much.
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what is the most effective ways to train abs ? I think sit-up is not really effective for me. There is fat at the abdomen .. wonder how to remove it make shape out
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post Mar 31 2013, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Mar 31 2013, 09:35 PM)
I do crunches and leg raise... To get 6 pack u need to do cardio to get rid of the fat, im doing rope skipping and its really effective  tongue.gif
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nice tips ... going to try it out. thanks
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post Apr 1 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Apr 1 2013, 03:48 AM)
Buy those plastic type skip rope, they have better speed and easier to use
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ok ... will try . 10s !!

QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 1 2013, 10:59 AM)
Cardio + lower calorie than u need per day = lowering body fat

You need to drop your overall body fat % to around <15 to have visible abs.

You cannot spot reduce.
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sound uneasy. i used to run once per week for about 30 minutes. i guess it's not enough.

will try with skipping rope to see how.

chest training seems much easier than abs. after training 2 weeks, the chests already "expand"/ tongue.gif
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post Apr 1 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 1 2013, 02:06 PM)
Once per week 30 mins is not gonna cut it. Skipping rope (high intensity, around 100/min) for 30 mins, everyday plus caloric deficit is gonna work. I did it before, from 72 to 66kg. I cut most of my rice, i replace my dinner with salad with some mango chunks, almonds, sliced chicken breasts (lean) and some fried eggs.

What kinda chest training did you do for you to see results in just 2 weeks? What sorcery..
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i don't think i am going for high intensity exercise. i wish to have some exercise as simple as my training on my chest. which is just normal dumbbell lifting, back lays down and press up the dumbbell for 1 hr, as many reps as possible.

hmmm ... abs ... i just want the shape appears, enough already.
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post Apr 1 2013, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 1 2013, 11:27 PM)
It's bench press. As many reps as possible in 1 hour?  doh.gif  You won't get much mass for sure. About lifting and lowering body fat, most answers are in the sticky liow
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opss .. i didn't mentioned it clear.

i do many sets in 1 hour, each set for 10 - 12 reps. I will take 3 to 4 secs when lift down dumbbells. rest 1 minute then repeat the next set. I lay on floor, so i called it "floor press".

i am more enjoy to do floor press and really dislike to do push up because it is so much tiring. I will give up after 3 sets of push up ...

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post Apr 1 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 1 2013, 11:44 PM)
I've been doing floor press for months back then when I've yet to sign up the gym. It's entirely different. I don't feel the tension on my pecs, mostly on my triceps. It's a bit different if you do flys on the floor though.

How much are the weight of the bells?
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I feel the tension on pecs but less on triceps. It's really different than you.

I lift 7.5kg for each dumbbell. I feel to increase more weight to 10kg

I never try bench press yet because i don't have a bench at house.

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post Apr 2 2013, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 2 2013, 12:02 AM)
I did a lot of reading for this floor vs bench presses. The ROM of floor press just ain't gonna cut it. The small upwards thrust is the one activating the pecs and for this to happen your elbow must be slightly below your back. The floor limits this ROM and I'm not sure how you could activate your pecs.

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I lift 10kgs back then and it's easy for me. I could go over 10-14 and still not reaching failure. Mostly my triceps would give way.

So when I started benching in the gym, it's an entire different experience. I've got crazy DOMS all over my pecs. It's a different sensation.
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i don't know ... but floor press works for me. After 5 sets, i could feel the tension at pecs.

But I am definitely going to try with bench press if i could get a bench.

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post Apr 11 2013, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(harris92 @ Apr 7 2013, 07:44 PM)
If you're limited by the ROM on floor presses. stack old magazines in the shape of a bench, a voila. Same ROM as a benchpress.
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nice one.

but, i made bench with chairs (the type without back). Three chairs in a row.

I agree with GameFr3ak ... it is much more effective.

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ABS ... *sigh*, it's a tough one.

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post Apr 12 2013, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(ahnien @ Apr 12 2013, 10:46 AM)
you need to really burn off quite some calories every single day.
not js on a weekly basis.

go for a 30mins run daily + lower down your carbs intake, especially for dinner.
you will see result within 2months.
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For ABS, I hope to have the muscular six packs, not the slimy type. Exercise too much will make muscle smaller.

Running daily is impossible for me due to work, maybe can try with once every two days.

 

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