Scott Garden Review by Mr Tu
Scott Garden Old Klang Road SOHO, -dead, alive or roaring soon?
Scott Garden Old Klang Road SOHO, -dead, alive or roaring soon?
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May 8 2019, 05:42 PM
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Scott Garden Review by Mr Tu |
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May 8 2019, 11:25 PM
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Scotts Garden was doomed to fail the 1st day it started on the drawing board.
The design of the residence is good and the facilities provided was top notch. What went wrong was the commercial design below the condo. With Malaysian weather, open concept with no air-con? what crowd are they hoping to attract? Afiricans?? The design of some shops facing outwards is another big mistake.. the building is not in the middle of bukit bintang with pedestrain at all sides.. those shops facing outside (except front entrance) is going to fail miserably) another design fault is some shops at the upper level are on accessible by stairscase like those old shop house (where mostly small law firms will take) With so many design flaws, even Tesco with deep pockets could not survice as that place could not attract good shops that in turn attract crowds. When pubs and bars move in, it's the final nail to the coffin... That place is now branded as sleazy and foreign chickens staying above , further drag the property value down. With so many vacant condo and shops, naturally the collection of maintenance fee also drop and most of the facilities start to deteriorate. If I'm the developer, I will shoot the architect of this building first for ruining his reputation with such bad design. |
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May 9 2019, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 8 2019, 03:42 PM) a lot of 'old drivers' know what that place is full of It had been that way since day 1. there are few times scott garden got story that people get drunk and started fighting, another time is someone car kena block and then start rage yea, that place is full of pub, you should beware places with pubs and bar, if you stay at lower floor it will be very noisy and the bass from those sound system is like hammering you every night » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Not just lower floor, even higher floors also can hear the thumping bass as many of those pubs placed their speakers outside their premise. Used to have a massage there every week by this Thai woman, one of those kinds that after it is over your whole body would be hurting like crazy. Neighbour was a PRC fuck-joint. Oh yeah fights and accidents were a norm then, especially among those who double parked outside. A few years back there was a major pileup, 7 cars in total were affected when an Audi Q7 sped and collided with a car reversing. QUOTE(pinksapphire @ May 8 2019, 03:56 PM) Beats me why people would wanna get a horrible property like this. Saw a video of Chapman To, a HK actor who owns a unit there bashing how terrible and haunted the place is with all the vice activities going on there. Well it is quite cheap to buy these days especially from a distressed seller. All that aside, I personally think this place has no resale value at all. Even own stay I'd stay away. QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ May 8 2019, 04:17 PM) I’m not gonna lie, this place did look attractive to me. I passby that place when I used to work in KL Sentral everyday. It was fine when Tesco was there. Plus, it wasn’t that far away from Mid Valley. I believe those were the reasons as to why it was so hyped during launch. Kinda disappointed to see it at its state right now. Lots of blame was placed onto the management but I’m unsure if that was the main reason Even during the days when Tesco was newly opened it never really took off very well. It lacked foot traffic and the layout kind of sucked. The problem was people always felt it was a drinking hole rather than a place to shop. eateries weren't all that fantastic either. |
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May 9 2019, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 9 2019, 01:07 AM) It had been that way since day 1. Well tbh, their direction was right in some way. They have studio and pubs which are meant for singles. I am not sure what went wrong midway (probably wrong choice of tenants?) and things just spiral downNot just lower floor, even higher floors also can hear the thumping bass as many of those pubs placed their speakers outside their premise. Used to have a massage there every week by this Thai woman, one of those kinds that after it is over your whole body would be hurting like crazy. Neighbour was a PRC fuck-joint. Oh yeah fights and accidents were a norm then, especially among those who double parked outside. A few years back there was a major pileup, 7 cars in total were affected when an Audi Q7 sped and collided with a car reversing. Well it is quite cheap to buy these days especially from a distressed seller. Even during the days when Tesco was newly opened it never really took off very well. It lacked foot traffic and the layout kind of sucked. The problem was people always felt it was a drinking hole rather than a place to shop. eateries weren't all that fantastic either. |
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May 9 2019, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(michaelchang @ May 8 2019, 11:25 PM) Scotts Garden was doomed to fail the 1st day it started on the drawing board. If I was the developer, I would've ditched this architect's plan a long time ago. The design of the residence is good and the facilities provided was top notch. What went wrong was the commercial design below the condo. With Malaysian weather, open concept with no air-con? what crowd are they hoping to attract? Afiricans?? The design of some shops facing outwards is another big mistake.. the building is not in the middle of bukit bintang with pedestrain at all sides.. those shops facing outside (except front entrance) is going to fail miserably) another design fault is some shops at the upper level are on accessible by stairscase like those old shop house (where mostly small law firms will take) With so many design flaws, even Tesco with deep pockets could not survice as that place could not attract good shops that in turn attract crowds. When pubs and bars move in, it's the final nail to the coffin... That place is now branded as sleazy and foreign chickens staying above , further drag the property value down. With so many vacant condo and shops, naturally the collection of maintenance fee also drop and most of the facilities start to deteriorate. If I'm the developer, I will shoot the architect of this building first for ruining his reputation with such bad design. But normally, most developers wouldn't care how a project turns out. All they're concerned about is the sales volume and once they achieve it, they'll just move on to their next project. |
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May 9 2019, 02:26 PM
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May 9 2019, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ May 9 2019, 07:49 AM) Well tbh, their direction was right in some way. They have studio and pubs which are meant for singles. I am not sure what went wrong midway (probably wrong choice of tenants?) and things just spiral down The main thing that killed this wasn't so much the tenants of the commercial units. The problem came when with its initial success the rental rates of the area shot up to the point where you could get better bang for the buck elsewhere. Also it was mostly drinking joints where people just gathered around and had fun, then when the rentals shot up a lot of other "stuff" came along as well, chief among which were money launderers, drugs and fuck-joints. QUOTE(DesRed @ May 9 2019, 09:20 AM) If I was the developer, I would've ditched this architect's plan a long time ago. Actually there wasn't really anything wrong per say with the layout relying a lot on natural ventilation, it helps save on energy cost and remember it was also at a time when oil prices were creeping up and energy savings was all the buzz that time. Also as at that time the place was untried and untested the developer made a right choice, imagine if it was all enclosed and the JMB opts to not switch on air conditioners, imagine how bad it could be. But normally, most developers wouldn't care how a project turns out. All they're concerned about is the sales volume and once they achieve it, they'll just move on to their next project. Either way developer made shit loads of money from this project as the land was dirt cheap. |
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May 9 2019, 02:51 PM
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When those commercial units rent to yum seng boom boom boom, tenants can complaint about this to management?
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May 9 2019, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(michaelchang @ May 8 2019, 11:25 PM) Scotts Garden was doomed to fail the 1st day it started on the drawing board. Huh?The design of the residence is good and the facilities provided was top notch. What went wrong was the commercial design below the condo. With Malaysian weather, open concept with no air-con? what crowd are they hoping to attract? Afiricans?? The design of some shops facing outwards is another big mistake.. the building is not in the middle of bukit bintang with pedestrain at all sides.. those shops facing outside (except front entrance) is going to fail miserably) another design fault is some shops at the upper level are on accessible by stairscase like those old shop house (where mostly small law firms will take) With so many design flaws, even Tesco with deep pockets could not survice as that place could not attract good shops that in turn attract crowds. When pubs and bars move in, it's the final nail to the coffin... That place is now branded as sleazy and foreign chickens staying above , further drag the property value down. With so many vacant condo and shops, naturally the collection of maintenance fee also drop and most of the facilities start to deteriorate. If I'm the developer, I will shoot the architect of this building first for ruining his reputation with such bad design. Architect was just doing work for yr approval nia.... Canf blame yrself and need to find a scapegoat???? Kalau salah, salah buyers only. Developer already laughed his way to the bank. |
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May 9 2019, 06:22 PM
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![]() https://news.cari.com.my/portal.php?mod=vie...09&fromanchor=1 Recently this Scott Garden always on headline.... This post has been edited by Giant: May 9 2019, 06:32 PM |
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May 9 2019, 06:51 PM
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May 9 2019, 07:20 PM
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May 9 2019, 08:12 PM
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Is the kuchai/old klang road area banyak gangster?
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May 9 2019, 08:19 PM
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May 9 2019, 09:07 PM
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May 9 2019, 09:16 PM
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Great news or not, those pubs at ground floor have moved out but more prominent tenants are also going to do the same, like the Korean Palsaik as well. This place is going to rot...I hope Decathlon can help them float.
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May 13 2019, 11:59 PM
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May 14 2019, 12:05 AM
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May 14 2019, 12:27 AM
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May 14 2019, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 13 2019, 11:59 PM) how argue also useless la this prop agent aka owner very FIRST things to do is in this building , STOP renting to thai / vietz / china girl this is what they can do among AGM meeting (Because owner cant really stop the pub/club/massage center below from opening) damage is done , it takes time to gain back public trust . even wongkok / those coffee house / tesco also beh tahan , how others shop to survive |
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