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Mar 27 2013, 10:45 PM
QUOTE(win44 @ Mar 27 2013, 10:23 PM)
but but... how does finding something really really small help us understand stuff.
I mean, technological wise, yes, but that wont help much in terms of economics, environmental issues, (the meaning of life??) and diplomatic conflicts and stuff.
well to put it simple, we are here to observe the existence of universe, not changing the course of itI mean, technological wise, yes, but that wont help much in terms of economics, environmental issues, (the meaning of life??) and diplomatic conflicts and stuff.
QUOTE(toda_III @ Mar 27 2013, 10:25 PM)
while we made our choices, I didn't mean we have total control of our life. Besides being affected by everyone directly or indirectly, we also have the area that we cannot control. Example, when we choose to throw dice, the outcome is affected by the very angle we throw the dice, the amount of strength, maybe a bit of air pressure caused by surrounding people who walked around, etc. And this outcome could affect whether we lost or win our gamble. But that doesn't mean we are totally not in control in our life. At the same time, it doesn't mean we are in total control of our life.
Another example would be, a simple one. one someone stab us with knife, we die. This is the simple example of how we are affected by other's action.
And you and I know the world is much more complicated than that, but I'm just giving a watered down example.
Another complicated yet also watered example will be economy, when someone gets greedy, it really affects the below people.
Not to say destiny is in total control of humans' hand, it's also effected by natural disaster, etc etc.
then we need to question is being a greedy conditional or choice ?Another example would be, a simple one. one someone stab us with knife, we die. This is the simple example of how we are affected by other's action.
And you and I know the world is much more complicated than that, but I'm just giving a watered down example.
Another complicated yet also watered example will be economy, when someone gets greedy, it really affects the below people.
Not to say destiny is in total control of humans' hand, it's also effected by natural disaster, etc etc.
many of my friend complains about our government being corrupted but when i question back if the government were to give them a big project due to close relation, would they take it ? most of them reply yes how ironic, it seem to be that if something is given the right amount of condition the result will always be the same
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