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Looking for 4 channel Amplifier
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TSloon1031
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Apr 11 2006, 11:18 PM, updated 20y ago
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Currently I am using an agako 4 channel amplifier, but it not statify me for the sound quality! The sound effect not enough clear...!
I am using Front : DLS B6 (6.5" component) Rear : Helix BLUE 69 MK II (6" X 9") Head : Sony CDX-F5500
I wish to change a new 4 Channel amplfier ! Maybe Helix Drak Blue 4 or Steg !
ANy comment ? Or any amplifier stuitable for me?
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craziechild
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Apr 13 2006, 07:26 PM
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helix hands down... helix tends to give a clear clean sound... which is very very suitable for SQ setup...
since you are using DLS... i think helix will do a great job on them...
cheers...
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Cola
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Apr 13 2006, 08:36 PM
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how much do helix's amp cost?
This post has been edited by Cola: Apr 13 2006, 08:36 PM
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TSloon1031
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Apr 13 2006, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(Cola @ Apr 13 2006, 08:36 PM) how much do helix's amp cost? For the Helix Dark Blue 4 (The lowest class for Helix 4 channel Amplifier) about RM 1,600 in Penang
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driftmeister
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Apr 13 2006, 10:27 PM
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KL here can get half of the price i guess less than a grand
This post has been edited by driftmeister: Apr 13 2006, 10:27 PM
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TSloon1031
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Apr 13 2006, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Apr 13 2006, 10:27 PM) KL here can get half of the price i guess less than a grand Helix not a cap ayam brand ... I don't think so can get 1/2 price of Helix... Maybe Kl can get RM200 or RM300 more cheeper la...
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Cola
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Apr 14 2006, 04:27 AM
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OoOo.. i've check the brand, it's from germany, should be good stuff.. some more so expensive, should be nice if can test the amp..
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craziechild
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Apr 14 2006, 07:31 AM
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for tht money... i guess should take a alpine... or genesis... or top up a bit to take a phd...
cheers....
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driftmeister
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Apr 14 2006, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Apr 13 2006, 10:43 PM) Helix not a cap ayam brand ... I don't think so can get 1/2 price of Helix... Maybe Kl can get RM200 or RM300 more cheeper la... u give me that price i help u buy 1 unit  i'll keep the remaining anyway..my vote goes to steg.. especially the masterstroke series  actually the qx series also not bad for beginner already
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TSloon1031
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Apr 14 2006, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(Cola @ Apr 14 2006, 04:27 AM) OoOo.. i've check the brand, it's from germany, should be good stuff.. some more so expensive, should be nice if can test the amp..  I had tried the Helix amp before...sound nice ..effiect also good..! If it match with Morel 6.5" component speaker.. It perfect liao!
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TSloon1031
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Apr 14 2006, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(craziechild @ Apr 14 2006, 07:31 AM) for tht money... i guess should take a alpine... or genesis... or top up a bit to take a phd... cheers.... For Alpine I prefer his HU more than other ..but only HU also expensive.. Somehow the amplifier le Genesis from England... I not yet try before can't give any comment....
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TSloon1031
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Apr 14 2006, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Apr 14 2006, 04:44 PM) u give me that price i help u buy 1 unit  i'll keep the remaining anyway..my vote goes to steg.. especially the masterstroke series  actually the qx series also not bad for beginner already  Actually I want try Italy Steg... Because many people give thumb up but I never try this before...
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Fusion
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Apr 14 2006, 10:34 PM
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helix is very very suitable for an SQ setup ??....do u mean that Steg is not suitable for SQ??.....sigh ....what a statement ...... helix is clean n clear ....thats 1 statement that i cant argue with but at the same time its also lifeless n bland sounding .....SQ is not about clean and clear ...its all about the realism of the sound and the presents of the warmness and emotion of the music.... try out steg K-series or the masterstroke before u make a comment like "helix hands down"......the K-series and the masterstroke is even in the league of BRAX (btw Helix is the budget Brax....they r d same company).....
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TSloon1031
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Apr 14 2006, 10:56 PM
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I see BRAX amplifier before in Penang near Gurney Drive..! It cost about RM10k... BRAX is big brother of Helix http://www.audiotec-fischer.com/index.htmlThis post has been edited by loon1031: Apr 14 2006, 10:57 PM
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craziechild
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Apr 14 2006, 11:12 PM
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I know SQ setup is not jus about clean and clear sound... its how the vocal and the other musical instruments should sound... and where is the vocal and intruments should be at... i didnt say tht everyone must use helix for their SQ setup... and i didnt even said anything regarding the steg... so dun get too excited... i guess i had audited steg in my friends car and a helix in another friends car too... both are good stuff for SQ no doubt... but i still like the helix more than steg as my ears are looking for those clean and clear sound which my friends steg didnt gave me enough... dunno whther is the tuning or wut... so back to your post... i think its jus a case about personal preference and taste...
and well as for brax... i still hav not had the chance to audit one... i dun care whther they are the same company with who... cuz i think in ICE, you will hav to choose your stuff on your own... not me say tht helix is good then you take helix... or a ICE sifu tht say TRU is good then i take TRU... cuz everyone has thier own personallity... thats wut make everyone special...
cheers....
This post has been edited by craziechild: Apr 14 2006, 11:18 PM
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driftmeister
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Apr 15 2006, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Apr 14 2006, 10:56 PM) I see BRAX amplifier before in Penang near Gurney Drive..! It cost about RM10k... BRAX is big brother of Helix http://www.audiotec-fischer.com/index.htmlso u c only la ? ic..
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Fusion
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Apr 15 2006, 01:55 PM
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the detail doesnt only depend on the amp ...the detail depends very much on the HU, speaker and also the cable used..... a setup with alpine F1 hu with some cheap 20cent cable n some Brother speaker will have much less detail than a normal eclipse/Chord cable/Focal K2p setup ....at the end of the day a system depends very much on how its being tune and also component matching....u cant really say which is the best n which is lousy ....a properly tune n matched 10k system can sound better than a 40k system setup that doesnt have any tuning .... go try around n listen to other ppls setup ....go try other setup n listen around before u decide on what kind of sound that u really like ...by then i m very sure u would know your preference on sound n types of amp that u like .....
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craziechild
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Apr 15 2006, 02:36 PM
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agree on the tuning part... even a capalang setup will sound better than a budget brand when the tuning part was done properly...
well i would say nothing in I.C.E. is the best... its all about the personal preference... you might listen to RnB but i listen to mozart... so we will never agree on any terms on each others setup...
well to me... i hav listen to the Helix A4 on my setup... and well i think they make my "high" but steg doesnt give tht feeling due to my personal preferences... i do listen to RnB but i also like mozart and other classical musical ochestra...
and also in I.C.E. i trust tht its not how much you spend... its how you use what you hav... by the end of the day... the one that matters the most is the front component... not anything else...
cheers...
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TSloon1031
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Apr 15 2006, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Apr 15 2006, 12:32 AM) so u c only la ? ic..  Ya loh.. see only and ask the price... but too expensive about RM10k leh... It very heavy ...
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TSloon1031
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Apr 15 2006, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(craziechild @ Apr 15 2006, 02:36 PM) agree on the tuning part... even a capalang setup will sound better than a budget brand when the tuning part was done properly... well i would say nothing in I.C.E. is the best... its all about the personal preference... you might listen to RnB but i listen to mozart... so we will never agree on any terms on each others setup... well to me... i hav listen to the Helix A4 on my setup... and well i think they make my "high" but steg doesnt give tht feeling due to my personal preferences... i do listen to RnB but i also like mozart and other classical musical ochestra... and also in I.C.E. i trust tht its not how much you spend... its how you use what you hav... by the end of the day... the one that matters the most is the front component... not anything else... cheers... sometime you should compare the amplier by the level of amplifier... You can't use one ayam brand amp compare with famous one...
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craziechild
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Apr 15 2006, 04:50 PM
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i know... both my friend de helix and steg amp cost about the same... but i dunno wut model is the steg as i dun hav any interest on them...
sometimes a capalang and a branded setup will sound the same if not tuned properly... the tuning part is very crucial in any SQ setup... unless you go for SPL which you will jus stand beside your car and wait for fireworks... hope you see my point...
cheers...
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Fusion
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Apr 16 2006, 01:19 AM
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yupe ..the tuning is very important in a SQ setup ....last year my frens car using AudioSystem/Dynaudio (AudioSystem is a baby Steg) also can win second in Iasca Sepang for when there r so many other cars that cos 4-5 times more expensive than his setup..... few days back i just had d chance to listen to a full Focal Be 3 way setup using 2x8" Focal Be sub and Pioneer P90....this is by far the best Focal BE setup that i have heard so far....the sub is one of the most impressive sub i have ever listen ....i never expected an 8" sub to produce such low n powerful bass....the sub bass (18-25hz) is one of the best i have heard so far.....the clarity n soundstage is soo much better than my Alpine F1 speakers.....its a really impressive experience.....
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craziechild
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Apr 16 2006, 08:32 AM
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then its time to upgrade then bro... hehehe... or spend some time tuning... hehe...
but well i heard the P90 was one of the player tht can compete with naka, makantoast or any other good HU... but i hav never listen to them personally...
i hav only heard the focal 165v2s... well nice component i would say...
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howiechoo
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Apr 16 2006, 01:16 PM
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some ppl will just buy and buy and buy...those idiot are thinking material is better than tuning...sigh....dun even tune it then say wanna upgrade again..like this no matter how rich u are u also not satisfy la..only let ppl make money only and by the time let ppl laugh at them...such a rich guy...
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driftmeister
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Apr 16 2006, 05:58 PM
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water fishing swimming everywhere
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kangyoon20
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Apr 17 2006, 08:24 PM
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hey guys i'm going to get an 4chn amp too i think.. think of power my comp set and get a new normal 10" sub... but i'm in tight budget, 1 of the shop offer me 4chn amp + 10" component sub + installation for all include my comp set. RM580 of course all the things are normal or chap ayam brand la i wonder is it a nice idea? cap ayam amp+sub VS mid range 3way wat shud i get?
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Cola
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Apr 28 2006, 11:12 PM
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I have this new Soundstream amplifier Little Wonder - LW4.480. Only one unit at this price. offering this unit at 10% discount. Accept no imitation.  This post has been edited by Cola: May 3 2006, 07:23 PM
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bakkutt3h
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May 3 2006, 04:48 PM
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have a used alpine V12 MRV-340 4 channel for sale....expected RM800
let me know if u interested....
details i dont have, u can google it...
This post has been edited by bakkutt3h: May 3 2006, 05:02 PM
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TSloon1031
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Jun 1 2006, 04:05 PM
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I just get quotation of Steg QM120.2 for RM1600 ... Is that expensive? What is the market price now for Steg QM120.2 ?
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neo79
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Jun 1 2006, 11:57 PM
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Fusion, Curious... Which K-series would you recommend? I prefer clinical and warm vocal. Currently looking for 4 ch amp to tri-amp my setup(I already have a 2 ch amp). Not very sure of the pricing of a Steg. I got my 2 channel at about 3K odd from my regular installer. BTW, this is my last addition... Thanks! This post has been edited by neo79: Jun 1 2006, 11:58 PM
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neo79
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Jun 2 2006, 08:56 PM
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Brader Drift...
My ears dont know why ler... But now is more clinical rather than warm... Hahaha... So continue my quest for clinical lor...
See Fusion can recommend me some amp to study anot...
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driftmeister
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Jun 2 2006, 11:46 PM
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for clinical TRU Zapco Genesis Brax will be my choice anytime
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TSloon1031
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Jun 10 2006, 09:07 PM
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How about ARC Audio 4150-XXK Amplifier? What is the price in market? Output power : 80x4@4 ohms, 160x4@2 ohms, and 320x2 4 ohms bridged Transient distortion : < 0.005% @4 ohms Frequency response: 20Hz-20Khz S/N ratio(A wtg) : > 105dB Bass boost : + 18dB @45Hz Input sensitivity : 250mV - 2.5V Crossover : 12dB stereo, 24dB mono 55Hz-5.5KHz Fuse : 30A x3 Dimensions : 16.5" x 8" x 2.35"
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ADJ
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Jun 12 2006, 02:31 AM
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selling my classic sony xm-504x 4x50w amp for rm350
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driftmeister
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Jun 12 2006, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(ADJ @ Jun 12 2006, 02:31 AM) selling my classic sony xm-504x 4x50w amp for rm350  nice classic stuff good for leisure listening and beginner
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