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 V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...

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axisresidence17
post Mar 18 2013, 06:58 PM

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Nope. Not that easy. High price buyer just come see see only. Somemore bank reluctant to give high valuation.

QUOTE(agentdiary @ Mar 18 2013, 03:59 PM)
almost any property owner who bough his before 2008, is almost certain to make handsome profits selling it anytime from 2010 till now. No knowledge is needed. NONE. Even idiot can do it as long as he knows how to sign.

That's the best bubble sign.

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axisresidence17
post Mar 19 2013, 09:29 AM

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too much pent up demand..just like here buyers are looking at unit below 200K but developers not building that..so prices for low end will continue to rise

QUOTE(ay@m @ Mar 19 2013, 08:51 AM)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21826176#

For today's reading... still going up for China... smile.gif
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axisresidence17
post Mar 19 2013, 06:50 PM

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sometimes agents are just lousy. Ive seen some of them just copy paste my advert and do things that I cud do myself thank you.

QUOTE(ay@m @ Mar 19 2013, 11:53 AM)
this unit bought direct from developer and the agent was appointed by the developer to sell the unit...

i am not sure if the developer kept the unit previously to try gain more profits...or maybe the developer now needs cash and decided to sell...or there's something wrong with the unit...i really have no idea.... and i don't care as i'm not the buyer...hehe...

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axisresidence17
post Mar 21 2013, 10:30 AM

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this is true to a certain extent..but if im a banker this is my opportunity to widen my market share if I have lots of reserve to spare..so u cud see that some banks are cautios some are quite agressive..so as a consumer its up to you to knock as many doors as you can till they let you in..i think as long as rental can cover your monthly payment you are good to go although some bank said the property is overpriced..else you wouldnt even take the time to look at that property in the first place arent you?


QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 21 2013, 09:31 AM)
Your 1 experience is probably a coincidence. In my experience (and i have invested in a few properties), is that banks valuation will never be the same as the asking price if ure talking about ppl who value the properties correctly. Banks can only match asking prices if asking prices are slightly below market prices. We all know that even though banks know prices are higher but they might evaluate lower to reduce their risks. Back in 2009/2010, banks were valuating mostly according to asking prices but since 2011, they have become very cautious. Even for me with stable finances, i had a problem purchasing a property in 2011. Only CIMB managed to match the asking price.
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axisresidence17
post Mar 22 2013, 01:45 PM

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thats true. its a balancing act. if im a central banker i will make it harder for overleveraged speculator but at the same time genuine buyer/users continue to have access to credit

QUOTE(hazairi @ Mar 22 2013, 11:40 AM)
if they further strict lendings, they might afraid that our economy might head into recession as the global economy outlook seems not promising. If they maintain low interest rates, inflation might shoot up especially the property price.

I would suggest on restricting the loans. Shoot up the interest rates before it crashes further in the future. Just my 2 cents.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2013, 01:49 PM

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thats true. luckily we are still a young growing nation in term of population.

QUOTE(hazairi @ Mar 22 2013, 12:11 PM)
the bigger the %, the higher the dilemma. US have similar issues and also most of the countries right now.
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axisresidence17
post Mar 22 2013, 08:39 PM

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So Up camp still rules?

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 22 2013, 07:11 PM)
well... bnm says suck it boys and girls... prices rose 11% in 2012 vs 2011, speculation here is lower than elsewhere... consturction cost rise is minimal (meaning developers are sucking buyers?)... prices will keep rising... and pls stop saying foreigners are pushing up prices - they're only 2%.

rising home prices, faster rising debt, what's our economy getting into? dangerous times, be careful , be very careful...
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axisresidence17
post Apr 1 2013, 02:26 PM

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haiyoo Asb will only allow max 200k. Not many bumi has a lot of money. But with power of leverage even if the increment is lower you would still get higher in amount. So I dont think its that simple. I'd rather get 6 percent increment in property rather than 8 in Asb for the same amount of money anytime.

QUOTE(tat3179 @ Mar 31 2013, 03:41 PM)
Yeahlah, rub it in.

You bumis have it damn easy, no need to think, sweat, risk and do homework and dump all excess to ASB and get above inflation returns while us nons have to crack our heads and worry our hair white and risk investing in order to beat inflation.

Go dai please.
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axisresidence17
post Apr 1 2013, 02:47 PM

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haiyaa..high risk hi gain ma..low risk low gain ma..



QUOTE(tat3179 @ Apr 1 2013, 02:30 PM)
I wouldn't sniff at ASB leh it is offered to me, max 200K or not.

At least bumis have a safe harbour that gives above inflation returns unlike most of us here.

And no, I don't believe that props are bulletproof like ASB
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axisresidence17
post Apr 1 2013, 03:15 PM

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you cud be right..but like I said depending on your point of view..but so far my properties and even unit trust outperformed ASB..and if I go by absolute number ASB dividen is miniscule in return..even in current climate I will choose property over ASB.. I vote for stagnant for the short term btw..up up up in medium term wz possible correction by 2017/2018..Of course performance varies across property price brackets..

QUOTE(tat3179 @ Apr 1 2013, 02:48 PM)
Yes, but ASB case is low risk and comparatively high gain.... biggrin.gif
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post May 6 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ May 6 2013, 10:23 AM)
Next year bro. Next year.

The arse screwing will now begin since BN just got their mandate...
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Reduced majority for BN. Dont think they dare to implement GST. Having said that I think property price will continue rising but at a slower rate.

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