According to some... only Tropicana Gardens will UP and will still UP.
HAHAHA. Sarcasm.
V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...
V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...
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Mar 15 2013, 06:07 PM
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According to some... only Tropicana Gardens will UP and will still UP.
HAHAHA. Sarcasm. |
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Mar 23 2013, 11:12 PM
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Is this sustainable?
With 100 million sq ft, Greater Kuala Lumpur now has Southeast Asia's largest office space stock (accumulative) The StarBiz | Friday March 22, 2013 It has surpassed 100 million sq ft in Klang Valley but situation remains manageable KUALA LUMPUR: The supply of office space in the Klang Valley has surpassed 100 million sq ft, making it the largest stock among the neighbouring South-East Asian metropolitan centres, according to property consultants at Jones Lang Wootton (JLW). Senior vice-president and head of research David Jarnell said the situation remained manageable where supply of office property was concerned but that there could be consolidation of rental levels for the rest of the year. Jarnell said that in South-East Asia, greater Bangkok had the second-highest office stock, totalling 87.85 million sq ft, followed by the Special Capital Region of Jakarta with 65.66 million sq ft. Singapore, meanwhile, had an office stock slightly less than Jakarta at 64.01 million sq ft. JLW executive director Malathi Thevendran said the (KL) annual supply delivered into the market in 2012 was the second largest (since the turn of the millennium) after 2009. A total of 6.74 million sq ft came into the market last year compared with 7.26 million sq ft in 2009. Jarnell said the recent trend of strong supply growth came about as a result of the strong and sustainable economic expansion, a growing services sector, good demand for corporate office space and wider-reaching infrastructure and public transportation. Over the next three years, the Klang Valley development pipeline would comprise a substantial 18 million sq ft of office space. Read More >>> http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...48&sec=business |
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Mar 23 2013, 11:54 PM
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Mar 26 2013, 01:25 AM
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Depending on the election, Malaysia's growth story still has alot of room for expansion.
When consumption increases, GDP increases. One of the best way to increase consumption is via Debt money. Developers will join in to woo more people taking debt money. The challenging part is to woo the Mass Bumiputera segment... and is pretty high credit risk as well. Malaysia generally (not just KL) is alarmed with high supply rate vs demand rate now. Somebody needs to do some checks. Btw more projects are coming... (a new list of upcoming 20 more projects just arrived onto my hands... will post the threads when more info - i.e. a new apartment project near Jalan Imbi and today's announced TRC-Prasarana Soho, condo, shopping mall project in Ara Damansara) This post has been edited by accetera: Mar 26 2013, 01:37 AM |
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I'm a guy in financial O/G... sorry, have to disagree that Malaysia has high purchasing power. We only have "ease of credit" according to World Bank ranking - we top 5 in the world for that.
********************************* Consumer purchasing power: As of the state today, in the retail industry for example, how many of these retailers are present in Malaysia? The middle class of Malaysians showed less tendency to afford foreign fashion clothing compared to the middle class earners of Thailand and Indonesia. Why? Issit because Malaysians have large debt in insurance and car loans or mortgages? Or issit because only the "Chinese-ethnic" are buying? ![]() ![]() Well, the good news is there are many who have expressed interest to come to Malaysia once we have more luxury malls opened. The proposed largest mall is still... ON... in effective as a proposal only. This post has been edited by accetera: Mar 26 2013, 06:12 PM |
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Mar 26 2013, 07:22 PM
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True, winning is not just the knowledge. You need experience, courage to take some risk, knowing the timing, controlling emotions, patient and lucky and lotsa lotsa luck (religious people called this "Blessings").
In Malaysia, and since we are mostly ordinary Malaysians, you need CONNECTIONS to get something "more" than the other. Everywhere is like that too, but different ways of getting connections. I feel Malaysians have been complaining too much these days. They complain yet they don't find a remedy for themselves - other than gosipping it all over their social networks. Generally, Malaysians are also pampered. They want everything CHEAP and FREE without knowing the cost to subsidy. They want information to come to them like rain dropping from sky - without knowing how rain is formed. Example: "please PM me. Please PM me. Please PM me." If you PM them, they will ask: "please advice me. Please tell me can buy or not. Please tell me to buy." Then, Malaysians are actually the most KIASU people now. |
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QUOTE(soules83 @ May 1 2013, 01:06 PM) the layout for BN cheap house is out for Penang. 700 sqrt ft and 1k sqrt ft. Freehold with very attractive price @_@ the inner layout looks good. Now high cost property underpressure and middle cost and low cost under government attack. What will happen soon? How much is cheap? Pls share the info. |
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May 1 2013, 11:42 PM
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Since our debt is high, I wonder how we could continue with populist measures especially in reducing car prices, more subsidy for fuel, more BR1Ms and whatnots, more freebies, etc.
Frankly as of now, both political sides are not too concern about the debt issue because whichever of them need to WIN first. Singaporeans are generally puzzled how come both political sides never mention how they could increase Govt income, i.e. by broadening tax base such as GST. Well, in PAP, policies about earning more income is more important than how to distribute wealth through populist measures. Malaysia is totally opposite. FYI, tackling corruption will not bring debt lower since more and more ordinary Malaysians are going to take debt anyway regardless whether more corruption by the big guys. My friend is going to buy a RM1 million car if the car prices come down. Who cares about debt, he says as long as we UBAH!!! This post has been edited by accetera: May 1 2013, 11:44 PM |
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May 16 2013, 07:12 PM
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Property market vs Purchasing Power
In Bangkok, it is surprising they have so many "non-conventional" professionals such as fashion designers and artisans that earn big bucks. An average fashion designer can earn about USD15,000 a week. Considering their population size and purchasing power, it is no wonder that Urban Thais are demanding more and more sophisticated stuffs. And at the same time they are demanding higher and higher price properties... and go to hell with social housing. Comparing to Malaysia, our Urban Malaysians are struggling to become salesman of any junk such as MLM or credit card and or struggling to even have an opportunity to see the blue skies in their professional jobs such as auditor or engineer. Even then, Urban Malaysians pay are absolutely low given that our productivity per capita is actually not that bad. The only thing is we lacked creative means to earn big bucks, unlike the Thais. How many Malaysians are fashion designers? Or how many Malaysians actually buy local designer products? For every overseas products we buy, we have money outflow as imports weigh exports. Here, we Malaysians are demanding social housing and welfare benefits. |
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May 16 2013, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 16 2013, 09:46 PM) Creative people already in UK. Nz .Canada etc Most Malaysians in overseas do not belong to my "creative" meaning. Most in UK are ordinary working people who still are nobody in UK. left only from Africa. Indon . bangla etc why ? See below. New home minister tells unhappy Malaysians to emigrate When r u leaving? In Thailand, the people cultures are different as they are very proud of their nation despite all the bad things like abuses and corruption and even religion problems within the Buddhists. The Chinese Thais have willingly gave up all that is "Chinese" and choose to assimiliate with the Native Thai and adopt everything Thai. By doing so, the combination of Native Thai and Chinese have produced a much better species - the Modern Urban Thais that are largely not racist like we Malaysians and not discriminatory against poorer neighboring country immigrants like Malaysians. Similarly, the Filipinos and Indonesians are very proud people. They rather die than to give up to richer countries like Taiwan (haha). *they now accuse Malaysia as bad as Taiwan because of our Chinese people. LOL (to some extent, the so-called natives of some ASEAN countries have similar mindset) More Malaysians are actually coming back to Malaysia now and I guess not many will be swayed by a mere statement of a Minister (he can say whatever till the cats can fly). This post has been edited by accetera: May 16 2013, 10:37 PM |
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What is your opinion?
MRT 2nd Line ::: Sg. Buloh - Serdang - Putrajaya http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...98&sec=business http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...16&sec=business ![]() My Predictions of MRT 2: SSP Line Sg. Buloh - Interchange KTM and SBK Damansara Damai Sri Damansara Bandar Menjalara Taman Bukit Maluri Kepong Sentral - Interchange KTM Taman Usahawan Jinjang Batu Caves - Interchange KTM Taman Wahyu Batu Kentomen Sentul (U) - Interchange KTM, Circle and ASL Jalan Ipoh/Titiwangsa (U) - Interchange Circle, ASL and KLM General Hospital (U) Kampung Baru (U) - Interchange KJL KLCC (U) - Interchange KJL Bukit Bintang (U) - Interchange SBK and KLM Pasar Rakyat/Tun Razak Exchange (U) - Interchange SBK Kampung Pandan (U) Pandan Jaya - Interchange ASL Pandan Indah Taman Muda - Interchange Circle Jalan Kuari Taman Supreme Taman Segar Plaza Phoenix - Interchange SBK Connaught Alam Damai Bandar Damai Perdana The Mines Serdang - Interchange KTM Sri Serdang (P2) UPM (P2) Uniten (P2) Precinct 14 (P2) - Interchange PJM Completion: 2014-2020 Total Length: 56km Total Stations: 35 Elevated Stations: 27 Underground Stations (U): 8 To Be Carried Out In Phase 2 (P2): 4 ![]() KTM: KTM Komuter ASL: LRT Ampang/Sri Petaling Line KJL: LRT Kelana Jaya Line KLM: KL Monorail PJM: Putrajaya Monorail SBK: MRT Sg. Buloh-Kajang Line Circle: MRT Circle Line |
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As a tax accountant for MNC, I would say GST is actually a good thing for Malaysia on macroeconomic level and if implemented carefully.
Most accounting professionals including our bodies and audit firms have been lobbying for GST implementation for years. But we want social responsibility when introducing GST to allow the checks and balance. Malaysia also needs a very strong domestic trade LAWS (now is so pariah type) and consumerism levels to prevent GST being abused by businessman for their own benefits. GST is for our nation's future, not for businesses to make more money! I also believe GST can solve a part of our trade mispricing that mainly causes our illicit financial outflow as more taxable, more reporting and more declaration will come into the picture. GST can also help to reduce the informal economy (businesses that do not report) by bringing more retailers and value chain suppliers into mainstream GDP computation - consumption. Our current system is not fair as only the end user pays SERVICE TAX but the supplier of that service or goods pays no tax to their suppliers. There is no doubt that GST may cause an inflationary shock in the first few years... however, it tends to stabilise the pricing levels after those few early years. And the future benefits of capping hyperinflation actually outweigh the immediate inflation pain. At the same time, NOT EVERY THING is part of GST because the Govt can give EXEMPTIONS such as household goods, common goods, hawkers/food courts, healthcare, education, PR1MA, etc. At a regional level, Malaysia is one of the major trading nation in East Asia that has not implemented GST. Also as part of ASEAN commitments, I think our neighbors are persuading us to intro GST now before the standardisation within ASEAN Community 2015. This post has been edited by accetera: May 20 2013, 11:45 PM |
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According to latest numbers by MIDA, FDI inflows jump 90% y-o-y to approx. US$6 billion in just 1 quarter (3 months).
FDIs in these computations is not the capital inflows that our stock market received (which is even more robust). Malaysia is also looking at a record-breaking year for foreign exchange reserve as well as tourist arrivals (mainly middle incomers from ASEAN, China, India, Saudi Arabia and South Korea). Was at a conference lately and apaprently they say more than 470 global MNCs pledge to invest and re-invest in Malaysia (say only). Amongst them are Cargill, my employer Schlumberger, Standard Chartered, Technip, BASF, Emerson, Siemens, Novartis, Huawei Technologies, The Linde Group, Tesco, Hennes & Mauritz, Finmeccanica, Intel, BMW Malaysia, Citigroup Transaction Services, Flextronics, JP Morgan Chase, General Electric (mainly Oil & Gas division), Capitaland (new project in KL?), Panasonic, Foster Wheeler, British Telecom, AEON & Co., CMA CGM, AECOM, Dairy Farm International/Jadine Matheson (will unveil a new retail venture for Msia), etcccc This post has been edited by accetera: May 25 2013, 05:55 PM |
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May 25 2013, 06:02 PM
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The market flush with cash have to be controlled. The capitalist is taking all the money, i.e. boss naik their own gaji just like politicians.
BNM needs to step in.... what you see in KL is crazily normal. Those in Iskandar is even more crazy - investors just buying at super inflated price without even bothered to read about things happening in their development area (ok the feel good factor is all things happening are apparently good). And impressively so many "Iskandar Property Taikor" suddenly become property guru in Singapore. This post has been edited by accetera: May 25 2013, 06:04 PM |
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 25 2013, 06:05 PM) I'm not talking about year 2012, which was a slight drop due to the heavier adjustments in 2011. I'm talking about Q1 2013 where the official numbers are out. The 90% jump explains the fact that 2012 was a low period, hence accelerating growth in 2013 as denominator was lower. Nevertheless, it was still an impressive jump - a quarterly jump in ringgit terms, not annualised yet and also not subject to variations such as foreign exchange yet. Bear in mind, the same report mentioned that Malaysia received a record-breaking investments in 2011 which amounted close to US$12 billion. So a stabilisation period is normal in 2012 given the global trade uncertainty that exist in that year. Amongst the projects that withdrew from Malaysia in 2012 is the Robert Bosch investment in Penang, which needs to be adjusted in 2012 for figures committed in 2011 in advance (but real FDI is not committed). Also bear in mind, in terms of Economics, MIDA numbers are official figures to be quoted in all agencies, all banks, all companies, all foreign investment banks, all think tanks including pro-Opposition such as Penang Paradigm. Also bear in mind, FDIs are internationally calculated in a new form these days, which normally include Capital Reinvestments by companies already invested in Malaysia.* (* Singapore's FDI computation is unique as it seeks not to capture capital funds that are coming in to be redistributed across subsidiaries in the region because Singapore is normally the region headquarters, i.e. any deposits or money a subsidiary has in Malaysia gets its money from Singapore, but Singapore gets money from the FDI source. Having said that, Singapore still recorded at least US$64 billion FDIs in a single year in 2011. If they capture the intercompany capitals, Singapore's FDI in 2011 is estimated at US$102 billion.) Source: - http://www.unctad-docs.org/files/UNCTAD-WIR2012-Full-en.pdf - Penang Paradigm presentation (P.S: Please quote UNCTAD, since that news report also quoted UNCTAD. But I myself would not provide any links from Rappler, the Filipino website that was very much against Malaysian-Sabah.) Other Related Topics ::: Food for thought only I personally think Malaysia stands no chance in competing with Singapore in terms of FDI numbers because the trade nature has been like this naturally. But the better perspective is not really the numbers, rather FDIs that really pump in capital and in turn give good value to its people and the economy. To put in perspective Indonesia-Malaysia, why would Malaysia attract huge-dollar investment from L'oreal to build a low-cost cosmetic ingredient manufacturing when they would actually pay off the employees with low salaries. Malaysia's manufacturing industries have about 65% workforce reliant on foreign labor and the fact that we are competitive in terms of low-cost (according to World Economic Forum) is because the abundance presence of foreign labor, not really because Malaysians are competitive. Our year-to-year larger FDI numbers (2011 was the record, 2012 dip abit) do not necessary mean we are competitive, actually! ![]() Quoted from my personal writing of economics in ASEAN online forums, data extracted from UNCTAD report. Malaysia is still the 5th preferred destination in Asia. Bear in mind, countries like S.Korea and Taiwan actually do not need FDIs to run the economy because there are global exporters. Also countries like India and Philippines heavily rely on a special form of FDI which is called "remittances", meaning their nationality working abroad transferring the money back home. Philippines receive US$25 billion in remittances a year and this is more than enough to run their bustling economy. ![]() Agreed upon, FDI numbers simply based on high volume of low-end investments is not the way to go. Quoted from Rafizi Ramli, Pakatan Rakyat Shadow Budget 2012. This post has been edited by accetera: May 25 2013, 09:31 PM |
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Debt money flushing around.
QUOTE(davidwsk;103616440) Interesting Article from Wall Street Journal yesterday...some sort of jealousy? Not sure why they want to pick on Malaysia?? This post has been edited by accetera: May 25 2013, 10:12 PMASIA NEWS Updated May 24, 2013, 2:51 a.m. ET. Asia Goes on a Debt Binge as Much of World Sobers Up . By ALEX FRANGOS in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and BOB DAVIS in Beijing ![]() A debt-fueled building boom is under way in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, above. The country says investing in (real estate) industry will result in faster economic growth. In the heart of Kuala Lumpur lies the abandoned foundation of Plaza Rakyat, a never-built skyscraper and shopping mall. Rusty rebar jutting from concrete pilings and fetid green pools of rainwater serve as an unintended monument to the debt crisis that ravaged Asia in the late 1990s. ![]() Today, less than a half mile from the abandoned project, the next boom is under way in the Malaysian metropolis. Construction has begun on a new subway line, and next to one station plans call for a 118-story zigzagging skyscraper that would be the third-tallest building in the world. Cheap credit is fueling the building spree. "We need to have more iconic buildings," says Kuala Lumpur's mayor, Ahmad Phesal Talib. The planned office tower, called Warisan Merdeka, is part of a nationwide wave of development that will add new office buildings, train and subway lines, bridges and factories. Track Debt Levels Recent decades have seen great fluctuations in public and private debt loads around the globe. Watch how global economic forces have affected debt-to-GDP ratios in various countries. After eschewing credit for years following the 1990s financial crisis, Asia's economies are once again amassing debt to fuel growth. The trend is a stark counterpoint to the debt reduction taking place in the U.S. and Europe. Some economists are growing concerned that the Asian debt revival could eventually trigger another crisis, or at least hinder growth in some of the world's fastest-growing economies. Few predict an imminent crisis in Asia, and sanguine observers note that rapid economic growth can make debt loads more manageable. Unlike in the 1990s, Asia has for the most part refrained from borrowing in foreign currencies, which can bring trouble if local currencies lose value. Borrowing has increased all across the continent. State-owned companies and local governments in China are taking on more debt, as are motor-scooter buyers in Indonesia, washing-machine purchasers in Thailand and real-estate investors in Singapore and Hong Kong. Malaysia's government has borrowed to fund the new subway and to pay for cash handouts to citizens. Debt loads in Asia's emerging economies—gauged by public and private debt as a percentage of gross domestic product—now exceed what they were in 1997, when Asia went into a financial crisis that lasted for several years. Much of the run-up has come over the last four years. The overall debt-to-GDP ratio rose to 155% in mid-2012, from 133% in 2008, according to the most recent data from McKinsey Global Institute, a unit of consulting firm McKinsey & Co. China, the world's second-largest economy, has led the borrowing binge. China's debt-to-GDP rose to 183% in mid-2012, from 153% in 2008, according to McKinsey. Some economists, including Nomura Holdings Inc.'s 8604.TO -1.14% Zhiwei Zhang, say China's debt-to-GDP ratio has risen higher and faster, to above 200%, based on government data that more fully incorporate nontraditional "shadow" lending institutions such as trust companies, which operate in parallel to the mainstream banking system. Increased borrowing by state-backed companies and local governments has some economists and Chinese officials worrying that China could see defaults, or a further slowdown in growth as its economy digests the debt. Economic problems in China have the potential to ripple to its neighbors in Asia and beyond. "China's financial system is still fragile and vulnerable," says Yu Yongding, a Chinese economist who has served as an adviser to China's central bank. "I don't think there will be a financial crisis at the moment, but there are a host of land mines ahead." There is no simple rule of thumb for how much debt is too much. Economists contend that large developed economies with sophisticated credit markets are capable of sustaining higher debt levels—both public and private—than developing nations. From 2008 to mid-2012, the debt-to-GDP ratio in the U.S. dropped from 367% to 346% as businesses and consumers paid down debt—but still leaving debt levels far higher than in emerging Asia. What has grabbed the attention of economists is the pace of credit growth in Asia. Asia's banks and credit markets are more developed than they were in the 1990s. Economists believe such improvements enable economies to sustain higher debt levels without hampering growth. When used sensibly, credit can help countries invest more in factories, roads and other infrastructure, which can spur growth. "It's OK to keep on increasing your debt. You need to keep growing your economy," says Idris Jala, a Malaysian government minister charged with economic transformation. The bigger the economy, the more debt it can carry, he says. Although he acknowledges that Malaysia's debts have increased, he says they are "still not as alarming as many other countries." In years past, however, some rapid and sustained increases in credit have foreshadowed debt crises. In Europe, increases in debt—some public, some private—proved unsustainable and led to the current economic problems there. "You don't want to demonize credit booms per se, but it's a red flag," says Giovanni Dell'Ariccia, an International Monetary Fund economist who has studied 40 years of such debt buildups. Mr. Dell'Ariccia and his colleagues have found that credit booms—defined as rapid increases in credit-to-GDP ratios—end in crises about one-third of the time. Another one-third result in below-par growth in ensuing years. In the rest of the cases, growth continues at the same pace or faster. Following the financial crisis of the late 1990s, Asian nations became known for high savings rates and prudent financial management. They relied on manufacturing and exports to drive growth. Until 2007, private-sector debt grew at roughly the same pace as the economy in Asia. The financial crisis prompted the U.S. Federal Reserve to cut interest rates to record lows. Asian central banks slashed rates, too. Consumers and businesses in Asia, unlike those in the U.S. where the economy was weaker, were eager to borrow. A crisis-induced decline in global trade caused economic growth to slow in Asia. But when growth picked up again, Asian central banks were reluctant to increase interest rates aggressively. Foreign investors further fueled the Asian economy by shifting money from slow-growth regions such as the U.S., Japan and Europe to Asian stock and bond markets. The result: Credit has been unusually cheap in Asia, and nations have been using more of it to fuel growth. So-called developing Asia—which doesn't include more advanced nations such as Japan and South Korea—notched 8.2% annual growth, on average, between 2010 and 2012, according to the IMF. The world's developed economies, in aggregate, grew 1.9% a year over that period. China's government announced a 4 trillion yuan ($645 billion at today's exchange rate) stimulus program in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis. Chinese banks increased lending by 33% in 2009, up from 15% average annual growth over the previous six years. Between 2008 and 2010, when much of the world was in recession or recovering slowly, China's GDP grew by 9.7% a year. Even after the global danger had passed, credit in China continued growing faster than GDP. With exports no longer driving the economy as much, credit expansion has become a key ingredient to growth. When China tried to slow credit growth in early 2010, the economic growth rate fell as well. Quarterly GDP growth dropped nearly without interruption for 10 consecutive quarters through the third quarter of 2012. Six months after lending started to increase again in April 2012, quarterly GDP growth—on a year-over-year basis—picked up again. "Last year showed you can't slow credit growth in the economy or economic growth will slow more rapidly," says Charlene Chu, senior director of Fitch Ratings Inc. in Beijing. China's GDP growth slipped in the first quarter to 7.7%, from 7.9% in the final quarter of 2012. In central Hunan Province, home of fiery food and Mao Zedong, a government-owned highway company called Hunan Expressway went on a road-building spree. By the end of 2015, Hunan, roughly the size of Minnesota, expects to have more than 4,000 miles of highways. To pay for it, Hunan Expressway amassed 174 billion yuan in debt as of last September, mostly bank loans, doubling its 2009 debt level. Despite an increase in drivers, toll revenues haven't covered loan payments. The company recently issued one-year bonds to cover the gap. In a February report, China Lianhe Credit Rating Co. highlighted cash-flow problems. In a written statement, Hunan Expressway said it hasn't had any overdue loans and has enjoyed good credit ratings. "The overall repayment risks are controllable," it said. In the mid-2000s, state-owned shipping giant China Cosco Holdings Co. 601919.SH +0.29%grew rapidly by buying and chartering ships. When the financial crisis hit, shipping rates collapsed, a glut of shipping capacity developed, and revenue fell sharply. The company borrowed from state-owned banks and sold corporate bonds, which allowed it to avoid layoffs. Total debt rose to 123.5 billion yuan in 2012, from 85.2 billion yuan in 2009. Cosco is "controlled by the Chinese central government," says Barclays BARC.LN -1.38%analyst Jon Windham. "The hand of the market that would normally force a company to get smaller is just not there." Some economists contend that China's debt problems are isolated and won't infect the general economy. They say the central government has a relatively low government-debt-to-GDP ratio of about 20%, giving it plenty of firepower to bail out ailing enterprises. In Malaysia, growth has hovered around 5% for the past two years, despite weak exports. Households have been gorging on credit-card debt and mortgages, and developers have been snapping up bank loans. Malaysia's debt-to-GDP ratio rose to 242% in mid-2012, from 192% in 2008, according to McKinsey. The run-up includes a steady increase in government debt and debt to government-linked companies. Mr. Idris, the government minister charged with economic transformation, says: "We don't want investment for the sake of throwing around money. We want to direct investment in places where we have an advantage." Among the industries where more investment will make Malaysia more competitive, he says, are oil, gas, financial services and high-tech manufacturing. Such spending will result in faster growth and higher incomes, which will enable the country to pay off its accumulating debt, he says. Kuala Lumpur last boomed in the 1980s and 1990s. Blistering growth back then in Southeast Asia's so-called tiger economies ended in a debt-fueled crisis. Malaysia was hard hit. Its currency plunged and businesses failed. The economy shrank 7% in 1998. Construction projects such as Plaza Rakyat were abandoned (until today). ***** ![]() Plaza Rakyat was in the news few days ago pending a revival scheme. Abandoned since 1997, the landmark tower was supposed to be the world's 7th tallest tower designed by S.O.M. when completed in 2000. Official Plaza Rakyat forum is at http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=290375. ![]() ***** Malaysia rebounded in the 2000s thanks to export growth. Now, with exports slumping, the government is pouring money into big capital projects. The Mass Rapid Transit Corp., a subsidiary of the Ministry of Finance, is building the first half of a planned 60-mile subway system in Kuala Lumpur, to be financed with $10 billion of bonds. Although many residents and economists think a bigger system will benefit the city's economy, critics worry that taxpayers might eventually get saddled with the debt. A monorail project built in the 1990s under a similar structure required a public bailout in 2001. The Malaysian government is pushing for the construction of new office buildings across Kuala Lumpur and using government resources to fund them. Yet office vacancy rates in the city already exceed 20%, the highest level since 2003, according to government statistics reported by CEIC Data. State-run Permodalan Nasional Berhad, a government investment manager, is the developer of the Warisan skyscraper, which is projected to have as much space as the Empire State Building. The PNB plans to use the tower to house companies it owns, which would empty space elsewhere. A few miles away, construction has started on Tun Razak Exchange, with more than a (two) dozen towers planned. 1Malaysia Development Berhad, a government investment entity spearheading the project, says it has investors from Abu Dhabi. It recently issued nearly $4 billion in bonds. There is even talk about reviving the abandoned Plaza Rakyat project. The city's mayor, Mr. Ahmad, says the goal is to attract 100 new multinationals, stealing business from nearby Singapore. He dismisses concerns about the high vacancy rate. "It's decided by the government," he says. "We need to provide these types of very premier office space." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412...0476172420.html |
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May 26 2013, 01:51 AM
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On top of the debt problem, we have illicit financial outflow problem. ![]() The central bank says it is mainly caused by trade mispricing and exchange losses, while the opposition lawmakers believe that part of the outflows are actually unrecorded money derived from mass corruption or illegal practices parked in a safe-haven/overseas like the Sarawak scandal revealed by Global Witness/Al-Jazeera/BBC recently. And another thing is the Malaysian government (and individuals) are busy buying expensive assets overseas, particularly in the UK. ![]() You know what? Ringgit is being transferred abroad to service British/international loans by European bankers at the expense of domestic coffers. Buying profitable companies in UK (not Lotus, not Queens Park Rangers not Millennium Dome) is a big YES (such as Wessex Water), but buying those old buildings is really a waste of money... my view. ![]() Lastly, what the hell are we getting from Africa? ![]() |
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May 27 2013, 12:37 AM
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In property, there is up and down and nobody (not even any guru) is an expert to predict when what will happen at one time or future.
Everybody just need to continue learning, learning and learning. In the meantime, sharing is awesome too! |
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May 30 2013, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ May 30 2013, 12:57 AM) 1. Buy those in growth areas. Growth is stimulated by public transport. 2. Hold those that you stay and those that are rentable (positive return). 3. Sell those that you are not keen and not happy. Money can be better use back in step 1. This post has been edited by accetera: May 30 2013, 01:01 AM |
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QUOTE(HeartRock_Cafe @ May 30 2013, 01:26 AM) For past properties, didn't say it must be like Step 1 (which is more for future). Past properties don't have to be close to MRT. Anywhere that is bringing you cukup makan and some untung is OK. Example: hold Tropicana City Tropics.This post has been edited by accetera: May 30 2013, 01:29 AM |
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