sure you are wrong.

you already said u are  "not well verse with shares" and "most super wealthy people made their millions from shares, and not properties."

no problem with me being wrong.
only problem is you can't or won't answer a question i post to you earlier.
not wrong for me to ask. and certainly not wrong for you to decline help to those who requested.

If i am a 100% believer in DDD camp but i am still buying, that means i only fool people around me. If i am a 100% believer in UUU camp but still not buying anything, that means i only fool people. If any of the above occurs, meaning i dont practice what i preach. Hence i will consider myself a liar.

i already answer " can we stop all this share things?"

u bring it up again. for me u are not matching yours " no problem with me being wrong."

u are actually  不接纳 that u are wrong.

this is property section. so again. can we stop all this share things?

Bias view~~sinz u have already owned 2 properties~~

Anyway I am not an expert in property market, below are just my 2 cents based on the basic supply and demand theory~~

Typical Malaysian (in KL to be specific) may find it hard to cope with the current property prices, this is why it makes property below 500k is very attractive and were taken up at an insanely fast speed. Property over 500k is hot as well due to speculation/investment PLUS EXTERNAL DEMAND which is fuelling the higher end market. The demand SEEMS to be good (if not crazy)~~

But banks are slowly closing their tap, getting more stringent in the approval process, more reject loan cases happened, not a healthy sign for demand

At the fundamental level, actual citizens who are really moving into the new property is rather low and slow. If you look at the threads posted here, the occupancy rate for new condos, like scott garden, G-residence, Zest or even Setia Walk some what worries me, after one year still below 70%?

On the supply side, developer are taking advantage of the increasing property price, most of them were RUSHING for new projects, supply is plenty and sales is good, project financing is not a big problem. The downside is that, most of them were aiming for higher end market with prices above RM500k, again, foreigners (external demand) can buy these units upfront with basically no obstacles, sales seems to be no problem again and hence more high end construction, units are getting smaller in order to squeeze more revenue from the piece of land.

At the wider market, China is slowing down, USA is recovering slower than expected, Japan suffering due to strong yen, Europe in never ending deep shit, the macro outcome does not seems good. External demand may be limited in the near future.

My conclusion:-
With supply increasing and fundamental demand unable to catch up, if the external demand is, weaken / stopped / regulated then the effect on local market might be great. Local demand is strong for lower end property where working class is struggling to get one. Higher end ones, how many of you are actually buying for own use? Some say rental market in KL is growing, but the supply is even more.

Therefore, with all the above, I believe we are moving towards the property bubble… but of course no one can predict when it will happen, some mentioned it years ago and it never happen and prices continue to grow. But if all this unhealthy e

As a new property owner, I do hope the prices will maintain and grow at a reasonable rate and not the current booming rate.

I agree with you.

I am down camp.

I said property will drop, that's make me down camp.

But, I never said i won't buy.

So, 2 different things here.

Now i bought price still cheap. Not those 500K

Being down camp so cannot buy fire sales meah? example, Now i bougth for rent wo. exmaple like kepong sentral? now price up after i bought?

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...u=&ns=1&sby=pdz

I agree with you.

I am down camp.

I said property will drop, that's make me down camp.

But, I never said i won't buy.

So, 2 different things here.

Now i bought price still cheap. Not those 500K

Being down camp so cannot buy fire sales meah? example, Now i bougth for rent wo. exmaple like kepong sentral? now price up after i bought?

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...u=&ns=1&sby=pdz

I agree with you.

I am down camp.

I said property will drop, that's make me down camp.

But, I never said i won't buy.

So, 2 different things here.

Now i bought price still cheap. Not those 500K

Being down camp so cannot buy fire sales meah? example, Now i bougth for rent wo. exmaple like kepong sentral? now price up after i bought?

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...u=&ns=1&sby=pdz

so are you are happy being wrong?

boss, while your scenario maybe quite realistic and achievable, but who's to say worgen's scenario might be equally possible as well.
when i illustrated the scenario, i was assuming that a stock investor would be consistently realising 9% gain each quarter for three years straight.
while not impossible but no easy feat as well.

If i am a 100% believer in DDD camp but i am still buying, that means i only fool people around me. If i am a 100% believer in UUU camp but still not buying anything, that means i only fool people. If any of the above occurs, meaning i dont practice what i preach. Hence i will consider myself a liar.

You can be 100% believer in DDD camp and still be buying, why not?

Most people who are in DDD camp also think its mainly the >500k props especially shoebox and studio unit condos and the overpriced GnG style landed selling 1+++M that are going to be very hard hit in the coming years.

If you are only buying 200k-300k low-cost props, then the price may still be sustainable. So why not?

You can be 100% believer in DDD camp and still be buying, why not?

Most people who are in DDD camp also think its mainly the >500k props especially shoebox and studio unit condos and the overpriced GnG style landed selling 1+++M that are going to be very hard hit in the coming years.

If you are only buying 200k-300k low-cost props, then the price may still be sustainable. So why not?

boss if you define like that, i am also DDD camp liao lor.

So like that DDD camp = UUU camp. Ok this thread answered already. Huhuhu

i nvr say i am uuu camp wor.

Well that is ok until someone said dont buy dont buy dont buy coz market going south but he himself buys.