this is a very classic, common case for nitpicking.
that refined driving experience is somehow agreed by most naturals.
and of course by that guy who bought K5.

sure. u got to buy something u think worth your cents. good tip.

ok good, in this thread , cannot compare by segment , cause 30k more
but in your other thread, 20k more is okay, because compare by segment

Indeed, the FD civic was notorious for it's lack of soundproofing. But you're still talking about a car that was launched in 2006 and competition then was non-existent. Newer cars will always be safer (usually) and come with more features la. No point trying to compare your ride with something that come out years after that.

Read and understand what i was trying to say. Everything is based on value for money and what ure getting for the money ure paying. There is no bias anywhere.

Yes there is a value for money Csegment car at that time.
It's a Lancer GT which launch at 110K price which almost 20K cheaper than 2.0 civic FD & slightly lesser price from 1.8 civic (which tin kosong)
It's also CBU japan plus full bodykits, 18"rims etc.
Unfortunately, 6months-1year waiting list.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Mar 14 2013, 10:30 AM

value for money in what sense?

i get more specs but i dread driving it?
how is it then a value for money proposition?

The new civic (the one we have here) is also very badly soundproofed. But it isn't quite as ugly as some would call it, and once I got used to the twitchy breaks, it was a pleasant enough test drive.

Then it wont be value for money for YOU so YOU wont buy it. Those who think its value for money will and there are more and more who are thinking along the same lines. Plain and simple.

exactly...
my value is different from that level of yours and so could the the meaning of value for others compared to yours...

so why imposing your values upon others?

YOU may different so there's no WE or US anywhere. YOU are a dying breed and soon to be extint.

And do learn the meaning of 'imposing'. I have a right to comment as i see fit the same way u have the right to defend your choices. If that's 'imposing' to you then feel free to comment on a different thread if u cant take the pressure. No matter how hard uve tried these past few months, sadly u just arent gettin the support u crave eh. Pity pity pity!

Run on back to your Toyota supporters club kiddo!

Talk to the hand after this yea!

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Mar 14 2013, 12:07 PM

u want to start this thing again that always ends with u running to a corner to reload and recharge?

are u sure?


btw to rub it in,
u keep talking about maturity but arguing by calling people kiddo, is quite mature right?
if it is, your level of maturity sure is low as do your knowledge and expectation of cars..

ouch !!

dont need to argue with him, because almost EVERY japanese car maker launched a new car here,will become his target to bash

Facts will be facts. Go to the Kia Sportage thread and see my comments there before u make silly claims. If u have something constructive to comment bout the CRV or Sorento on this thread then please do share. If not, i guess its just another wasted effort on your part. Cheers!

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Mar 14 2013, 05:32 PM

sigh, every car forums that I want to read informative sharings, are all infested with Kimchi vs Sushi vs Sausage argument

issue is, the information that u want to read that is being shared by a very knowledgeable individual unfortunately is only about specs that is available from the website and literally almost nothing else...

when the discussion goes slightly more technical, it became apparent that the individual is just tin kosong (even with google to back up) as they say...
u don't see that individual sharing technical stuffs right?

But to be fair, the Lancer did launch in 3rd quarter of 2007. The Civic FB was first introduced in 2005 then later launched in our region in the earlier part of 2006. It's till a year apart difference.

But I agree, it was a very value for money offering. If I recall, nappa leather seats, paddle shifters, cruise control were all standard equipment.

the civic FD is launched around june 2006 about the same time as the launching of the satria neo...

tit for tat... both the mitsu and the civic 2.0 has their own pros and cons...

the lancer main selling point is full import from japan (placebo effect as in everything CBU is god especially in malaysia ) at a lower price compared to the higher spec-ed but more expensive 2.0 civic FD... hehe

actually the first lancer batch did not come with cruise control...

only the lancer EX (lower spec vs GT) version did and when the lancer EX version is discontinued, the Lancer GT soldier on but with some product revision done from time to time like cruise control, retractable side mirror, running lights, reverse camera slowly added to the kit list...

More than 1 year apart though. Enough for the competition to really up their game. But if I do recall, it was also a period where Mitsubishi took a huge hit to their reputation with the vehicle defect cover-up. Sales also plummeted for them during those years.

The new version is really handsome IMHO. But sure letdown with only petrol version, whilst elsewhere there are also diesel model. Ive driven a 2012 santa fe with the 2.2L turbo diesel and that engine rocks. If kia does bring in the diesel version, i am sure there will be alot of interest.

I'm not a big fan of Korean makes but this new Sorento really looks good....so un-Korean!

Some great pictures here, New Sorento Pictures

I must say, the cars looks pretty well specced for its price and has an European styling to it.



Cabin looks very pleasing and cosy too...enjoy