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post Mar 11 2013, 01:42 PM

Why my warn is 0%? i miss my high warn
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y car become milo-tin
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:43 PM

u x sukak u keluar
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tian chua yang arahkan dia post camtu
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:45 PM

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How about altantuya killer?
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:46 PM

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suruh beli preve tak mau. ptuih padan muka.
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ada logik juga kata2 nya.
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khalid ahmad jadi Carlead Archmad. nohorommm budak pavi ke hape mamat ni.
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:47 PM

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carlead achmad = khalid ahmad

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post Mar 11 2013, 01:48 PM

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Lol two from the same part, the only possibility is acting.
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Harini nak pergi berkelah,
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Sembang kencang macam burit
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ppl find the car and bang it
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:52 PM

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wat happen to his car ??
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how to know that is his car?
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:59 PM

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The car exploded by itself?
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post Mar 11 2013, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(mistralmudd @ Mar 11 2013, 01:47 PM)
khalid ahmad jadi Carlead Archmad. nohorommm budak pavi ke hape mamat ni.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Mar 11 2013, 01:46 PM)
ada logik juga kata2 nya.
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Truth pill is hardest to swallow.
The 1st intel already know got 100pax fully armed ppl (which I dubbed due to project IC and lack of security border control) and army force should be call in as most police personnel is not trained to handle jungle and urban warfare.

Agong is being sideline even he is the royal army commander.
Somemore logistic to place army make so bad and all ppl doubt how strong is our army force.

Look like kerismuddin have his own keris being stabbed own his own backside.
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lol, langgar kereta perisai maybe
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Mar 11 2013, 02:05 PM)
Truth pill is hardest to swallow.
The 1st intel already know got 100pax fully armed ppl (which I dubbed due to project IC and lack of security border control) and army force should be call in as most police personnel is not trained to handle jungle and urban warfare.

Agong is being sideline even he is the royal army commander.
Somemore logistic to place army make so bad and all ppl doubt how strong is our army force.

Look like kerismuddin have his own keris being stabbed own his own backside.
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actually they are trained, i have cousin who is polis hutan. but army and polis of coz have different approach on things...
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why his car kena until like that? ada backstory ke apepe?
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post Mar 11 2013, 02:24 PM

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Hmm...he got some valid points there.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Mar 11 2013, 02:08 PM)
actually they are trained, i have cousin who is polis hutan. but army and polis of coz have different approach on things...
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Well i believe the first step in sending the polis was wrong already.

It kind of doesn't fit the picture when someone's invading your territory with riffles, machine guns, mortars and rpg, and you send the police to do the work even though they are trained or not trained for jungle combat. rclxub.gif

I doubt if these Sulu guys were to suddenly invade America with those firearms with the number of people they bring in with them, the government will just leave it to the police to settle it. It may or may not be politcal issues, but come on we gotta be realistic sometimes.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Mar 11 2013, 02:08 PM)
actually they are trained, i have cousin who is polis hutan. but army and polis of coz have different approach on things...
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Not just that. They were outman and outgun by the intruders, even if they are well train. there's too few UTK and VAT69 troops available throughout Sabah. They never expect to face 100-200 well armed intruders. they were expected to deal with smugglers and crime syndicates. A foreign intruders who blatantly declare an intention to subjugate a state should've been under the jurisdiction of the army.
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QUOTE(mhchan2002 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:50 PM)
ppl find the car and bang it
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confirm la coz prdm got all the details easily know where to find and sabotaj.hahahaha
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PDRM cannot do things to army people they can only refer them to MP. But I guess the main person he kutuking is the IGP and the Kerismuddin because they are both bongok.

Anyway I'm sure our army no belas kasihan wan they sure shoot on sight, dunno whether good or bad probably all the sulu will mati. lol.
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TS misleading.

that TUDM fella car crashed during last Raya Korban ady..
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post Mar 11 2013, 03:50 PM

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how much his salary? y he can drive civic? ayam so jelly
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 11 2013, 03:50 PM)
how much his salary? y he can drive civic? ayam so jelly
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QUOTE(xain @ Mar 11 2013, 02:32 PM)
Well i believe the first step in sending the polis was wrong already.

It kind of doesn't fit the picture when someone's invading your territory with riffles, machine guns, mortars and rpg, and you send the police to do the work even though they are trained or not trained for jungle combat.  rclxub.gif

I doubt if these Sulu guys were to suddenly invade America with those firearms with the number of people they bring in with them, the government will just leave it to the police to settle it. It may or may not be politcal issues, but come on we gotta be realistic sometimes.
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QUOTE(Leprodige @ Mar 11 2013, 03:52 PM)
Melei + tentera. Sure can drive civic
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ayam work so hard still cant afford this car cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 11 2013, 03:53 PM)
ayam work so hard still cant afford this car  cry.gif  cry.gif
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My car my parents bought one. If i work myself also cant
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katanya logik jugak
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 11 2013, 03:50 PM)
how much his salary? y he can drive civic? ayam so jelly
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apasal x boleh pakai?
kereta 100k
d/p 10k
interest rate 2.8%
loan period 9 years

=rm1043.33

salary 3k already can drive civic yo...


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QUOTE(babyryn @ Mar 11 2013, 04:00 PM)
apasal x boleh pakai?
kereta 100k
d/p 10k
interest rate 2.8%
loan period 9 years

=rm1043.33

salary 3k already can drive civic yo...
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tak paya makan ke? maintanence? lotax insurance? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 11 2013, 04:03 PM)
tak paya makan ke? maintanence? lotax insurance? sweat.gif
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roadtax cheap la.
first year already included into the car.
2nd year you only pay. 2nd year ncb 25% disc. old NCB can get till 50%
roadtax cheap nia. insurance also can do. lets say you can insured your car to rm70/80k
its not a problem la..

last time when i making salary average of 3k, i already bought condo + car
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QUOTE(babyryn @ Mar 11 2013, 04:07 PM)
roadtax cheap la.
first year already included into the car.
2nd year you only pay. 2nd year ncb 25% disc. old NCB can get till 50%
roadtax cheap nia. insurance also can do. lets say you can insured your car to rm70/80k
its not a problem la..

last time when i making salary average of 3k, i already bought condo + car
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no wonder rosmah can buy itu diamond ring using her saving money, seems legit brows.gif
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 11 2013, 04:13 PM)
no wonder rosmah can buy itu diamond ring using her saving money, seems legit  brows.gif
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itu mission impossible. we are talking 100k+-
millions one put aside lor.. so pandai menabung? can conduct training for me?
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QUOTE(babyryn @ Mar 11 2013, 04:16 PM)
itu mission impossible. we are talking 100k+-
millions one put aside lor.. so pandai menabung? can conduct training for me?
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dun forget she use her saving money to buy C4 also, dunno how much itu C4 cost hmm.gif
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Mar 11 2013, 01:46 PM)
ada logik juga kata2 nya.
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 11 2013, 04:18 PM)
dun forget she use her saving money to buy C4 also, dunno how much itu C4 cost hmm.gif
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i ask my grandson practise menabung, till i jadi habuk, still cannot buy such precious thing lol
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cakap lebey, kalau tentera masuk dulu pon aku ingat mesti kena kantoi sama itu sulu jugak...
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Mar 11 2013, 03:50 PM)
TS misleading.

that TUDM fella car crashed during last Raya Korban ady..
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kita amat jarang pergi perang, misi UN tu je la aku ingat harapan kita untuk kukuhkan strategi peperangan kita..
jangan pandang rendah kepada pengganas sulu yang selalu je turun perang walaupun aset mereka tak seberapa tapi pengalaman diaorang jauh lebih tinggi dari kita.. apsal nak gaduh pula polis dan tentera ni, buat kerja kena ikhlas untuk tanah air dan seluruh rakyatnya... jangan sesuka hati post kat facebook sambil pakai baju tentera sweat.gif
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The thing is, this TUDM fella not know anything about politics. I thought only in movie, they are the "yes sirs" without hesitation for jobs. But in actual fact its all about politics. Which that guy seriously has no clue of. We use PDRM because it was to show that force was not necessary to deal with them because we will use negotiations. Using police is also the first end of peaceful dealings. Also it will show that using police is not a war warning to another country. In this case Philippines. So we will treat it as a small case as it is. In fact its standard around the world. Unless u are in war torn country or North Korea.

On the local front, if straight away deploy army troop there, what would you think? The ppl who live there would think its already war. I'm not saying PDRM are free target practice. But when u deal with such situation, Army is last resort. If u say we should get rid of illegals in Malaysia, immediately deploy army to get them. What do u think the message is to the other country? Yes if u are a mad for the country guy, u would do so. But in reality no way! Don't even quote komunis, because it was in a different senario.

All the stupid idiots i see posting here and there never even say anything about why police is used and not army first. BECAUSE U DON'T FREAKING KNOW HOW COUNTRY SECURITY WORKS! This is no video game. I u wipe off those guys on the first day, u can see Philipines would do a lot of shit to us. U know poor country can get support easily. They just lay out their country economy vs our economy as a fact to get support and make us look like a bully. The reason why none of them can do anything to us is because we still do some things by the book.



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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 11 2013, 05:41 PM)
The thing is, this TUDM fella not know anything about politics. I thought only in movie, they are the "yes sirs" without hesitation for jobs. But in actual fact its all about politics. Which that guy seriously has no clue of. We use PDRM because it was to show that force was not necessary to deal with them because we will use negotiations. Using police is also the first end of peaceful dealings. Also it will show that using police is not a war warning to another country. In this case Philippines. So we will treat it as a small case as it is. In fact its standard around the world. Unless u are in war torn country or North Korea.

On the local front, if straight away deploy army troop there, what would you think? The ppl who live there would think its already war. I'm not saying PDRM are free target practice. But when u deal with such situation, Army is last resort. If u say we should get rid of illegals in Malaysia, immediately deploy army to get them. What do u think the message is to the other country? Yes if u are a mad for the country guy, u would do so. But in reality no way! Don't even quote komunis, because it was in a different senario.

All the stupid idiots i see posting here and there never even say anything about why police is used and not army first. BECAUSE U DON'T FREAKING KNOW HOW COUNTRY SECURITY WORKS! This is no video game. I u wipe off those guys on the first day, u can see Philipines would do a lot of shit to us. U know poor country can get support easily. They just lay out their country economy vs our economy as a fact to get support and make us look like a bully. The reason why none of them can do anything to us is because we still do some things by the book.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 11 2013, 05:41 PM)
The thing is, this TUDM fella not know anything about politics. I thought only in movie, they are the "yes sirs" without hesitation for jobs. But in actual fact its all about politics. Which that guy seriously has no clue of. We use PDRM because it was to show that force was not necessary to deal with them because we will use negotiations. Using police is also the first end of peaceful dealings. Also it will show that using police is not a war warning to another country. In this case Philippines. So we will treat it as a small case as it is. In fact its standard around the world. Unless u are in war torn country or North Korea.

On the local front, if straight away deploy army troop there, what would you think? The ppl who live there would think its already war. I'm not saying PDRM are free target practice. But when u deal with such situation, Army is last resort. If u say we should get rid of illegals in Malaysia, immediately deploy army to get them. What do u think the message is to the other country? Yes if u are a mad for the country guy, u would do so. But in reality no way! Don't even quote komunis, because it was in a different senario.

All the stupid idiots i see posting here and there never even say anything about why police is used and not army first. BECAUSE U DON'T FREAKING KNOW HOW COUNTRY SECURITY WORKS! This is no video game. I u wipe off those guys on the first day, u can see Philipines would do a lot of shit to us. U know poor country can get support easily. They just lay out their country economy vs our economy as a fact to get support and make us look like a bully. The reason why none of them can do anything to us is because we still do some things by the book.
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bs.they did not bring lawyer and documents but they brought military class weapons here and threaten to stay and die is a 1st sign of possible terrorism act. which was ignored by gomen.(under control they say) they tried to bargain for something that is not up for bargain at any cost.. later now they classified them as terrorists but b4 this they were tourists ? wat a f joke

they should label them as terrorists, get rid of them in the 1st week of action, no countries dare to intervene even philipine because it wasnt us who step into their line, it was they,cruel? we just clean up few messes at their south which they failed to do, crap all they like
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 11 2013, 05:41 PM)
The thing is, this TUDM fella not know anything about politics. I thought only in movie, they are the "yes sirs" without hesitation for jobs. But in actual fact its all about politics. Which that guy seriously has no clue of. We use PDRM because it was to show that force was not necessary to deal with them because we will use negotiations. Using police is also the first end of peaceful dealings. Also it will show that using police is not a war warning to another country. In this case Philippines. So we will treat it as a small case as it is. In fact its standard around the world. Unless u are in war torn country or North Korea.

On the local front, if straight away deploy army troop there, what would you think? The ppl who live there would think its already war. I'm not saying PDRM are free target practice. But when u deal with such situation, Army is last resort. If u say we should get rid of illegals in Malaysia, immediately deploy army to get them. What do u think the message is to the other country? Yes if u are a mad for the country guy, u would do so. But in reality no way! Don't even quote komunis, because it was in a different senario.

All the stupid idiots i see posting here and there never even say anything about why police is used and not army first. BECAUSE U DON'T FREAKING KNOW HOW COUNTRY SECURITY WORKS! This is no video game. I u wipe off those guys on the first day, u can see Philipines would do a lot of shit to us. U know poor country can get support easily. They just lay out their country economy vs our economy as a fact to get support and make us look like a bully. The reason why none of them can do anything to us is because we still do some things by the book.
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lol.

nego. lol.

just declare today we have encountered a gang of armed terrorist, they fire upon the patrol guard, patrol guard returned fire, killed 100 10 terrorists. from their belongings we believe they are the pirates bla bla bla bla bla.
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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Mar 11 2013, 08:04 PM)
bs.they did not bring lawyer and documents but  they brought military class  weapons here and threaten to stay and die is a 1st sign of possible terrorism act.  which was ignored by gomen.(under control they say) they tried to bargain for something that is not up for bargain at any cost.. later now they classified  them as terrorists but b4 this they were tourists ? wat a f joke

they should label them as terrorists, get rid of them in the 1st week of action, no countries dare to intervene even philipine because it wasnt us who step into their line, it was they,cruel? we just clean up few messes at their south which they failed to do, crap all they like
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Yes correct. They are the armed tree people anyway. But because u already born in a civilized world should know to adopt a wait and see attitude first. The first few days was already a negotiation. Telling them to go back to their tree island is already a negotiation. Negotiation is not always about sitting on table with papers. In this case the fellas did not want to go back. And somewhere along the line shots was fired, our people died. If u straight away bring in army, they are trained to eliminate. They do not ask questions. That is why they are not sent in the first place. Whats more if u send the army, u are playing with trump card. Which no one wants to do if they are smart enough.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Mar 11 2013, 08:07 PM)
lol.

nego. lol.

just declare today we have encountered a gang of armed terrorist, they fire upon the patrol guard, patrol guard returned fire, killed 100 10 terrorists. from their belongings we believe they are the pirates bla bla bla bla bla.
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Its obvious to u negotiation only starts with a table. To them negotiation starts by asking them what they want when they landed. That is negotiations whether u like it or not. If a blardy stranger comes in ur house, u ask him what he wants right? I don't see u running to the kitchen find the first knife to stab him there and then when u see him.

In the sea, u have different environment. Have u ever shouted to a guy on another boat be it 10 feet away? The wind, the waves, the noise of the motor will almost drown out whatever we are saying. Here u only have visual clue. Now shooting in the sea, if u see the other party have a weapon, u don't think they would be shooting for fishes right? Its obvious they could be smugglers or pirates. If u were the bad guy, u would hope u have a 3000HP motorboat to run away from cops. Not shooting at them and wait for their reinforcements to arrive right? If they wait and u see weapons, its only logical u are in for a gun fight.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 11 2013, 08:49 PM)
Its obvious to u negotiation only starts with a table. To them negotiation starts by asking them what they want when they landed. That is negotiations whether u like it or not. If a blardy stranger comes in ur house, u ask him what he wants right? I don't see u running to the kitchen find the first knife to stab him there and then when u see him.

In the sea, u have different environment. Have u ever shouted to a guy on another boat be it 10 feet away? The wind, the waves, the noise of the motor will almost drown out whatever we are saying. Here u only have visual clue. Now shooting in the sea, if u see the other party have a weapon, u don't think they would be shooting for fishes right? Its obvious they could be smugglers or pirates. If u were the bad guy, u would hope u have a 3000HP motorboat to run away from cops. Not shooting at them and wait for their reinforcements to arrive right? If they wait and u see weapons, its only logical u are in for a gun fight.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 11 2013, 08:38 PM)
Yes correct. They are the armed tree people anyway. But because u already born in a civilized world should know to adopt a wait and see attitude first. The first few days was already a negotiation. Telling them to go back to their tree island is already a negotiation. Negotiation is not always about sitting on table with papers. In this case the fellas did not want to go back. And somewhere along the line shots was fired, our people died. If u straight away bring in army, they are trained to eliminate. They do not ask questions. That is why they are not sent in the first place. Whats more if u send the army, u are playing with trump card. Which no one wants to do if they are smart enough.
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sending the military doesnt mean we are going to war at 1st sight, i think all the image u have about army is shoot, bomb and kill, no talk at all. well ure wrong there are units within the military that are trained to gather information, expertise in intel and negotiation, of course there is no telling how well they could have done if the task were given to them
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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Mar 11 2013, 08:55 PM)
sending the military doesnt mean we are going to war at 1st sight, i think all the image u have about army is shoot, bomb and kill, no talk at all. well ure wrong there are units within the military that are trained to gather information, expertise in intel and negotiation, of course there is no telling how well they could have done if the task were given to them
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Wouldn't sending the police to do that, the same thing? What PDRM is incompetent is it? Also PDRM was there first, and have units capable of doing that. We thought those people would leave since they have a place to go back to. Never thought that guns would go off. If every boat carrying people landed in Malaysia is dealt with military power, what would u think? What would the world think? I would care because i know the consequences of using military force.
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sending the police in while the whole military force and their equipment not ready was already the wrong move to begin with. When more than 100 ppl carrying arms over to Sabah, do they ever have the intention to talk peace, that is already a no brainer to begin with anyway. There are many forms of intelligence gathering, but i have always stated that malaysia's armed forces are not as capable as claimed, that jungle warfare they are so well praised are all just of the bypass era, these days tactics have evolved tremendously. They are still very stuck with the 60's mentality, we are so proud of fighting communist, kisah atuk dulu dulu punye cerita. Those Navy Seal training with us, that is only part of their kucimiao program.

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QUOTE(Avex @ Mar 11 2013, 09:11 PM)
sending the police in while the whole military force and their equipment not ready was already the wrong move to begin with. When more than 100 ppl carrying arms over to Sabah, do they ever have the intention to talk peace, that is already a no brainer to begin with anyway. There are many forms of intelligence gathering, but i have always stated that malaysia's armed forces are not as capable as claimed, that jungle warfare they are so well praised are all just of the bypass era, these days tactics have evolved tremendously. They are still very stuck with the 60's mentality, we are so proud of fighting communist, kisah atuk dulu dulu punye cerita. Those Navy Seal training with us, that is only part of their kucimiao program.
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It was a horrible scenario to begin with like what you said...I agree 100%.
I really wonder how can 200 well armed men were only 'guarded' by so few.
While top official were smiling away at a hill nearby watching every move yet...waiting for things to happen.

But, thing is protocals and regulations need to comply with, we are not like Sulu ppl.

Nobody actually knows what actually happened on that eventful 1st day when we were attacked...I really dun buy that white flag story....it could be true...or not...only a few top officials will know...how many times have we been feed with 'incredible' stories (like someone wanna assassinate PSY, the still ongoing Anwar Sodomy case etc). But given the benefit of the doubt, we just follow the flow. Since I see even hardcore keyboard warriors who are against everything, just follow the story as it goes.....so it must be true right?

Things oledi happen, a laughing matter or not, now we need to correct it. It doesn't matter if we used 100,000 men to kill them off, or billions of dollars of toyz at our disposal...this is war...even against tree ppl..
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Mar 11 2013, 02:05 PM)
Truth pill is hardest to swallow.
The 1st intel already know got 100pax fully armed ppl (which I dubbed due to project IC and lack of security border control) and army force should be call in as most police personnel is not trained to handle jungle and urban warfare.

Agong is being sideline even he is the royal army commander.
Somemore logistic to place army make so bad and all ppl doubt how strong is our army force.

Look like kerismuddin have his own keris being stabbed own his own backside.
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Not trained? Gosh. U think those police are the biasa2 one? Polis hutan different from Polis gerakan am or the one at bandar duduk balai.
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Trained or not, how many police are there? Enough to counter 200 ppl? Why take so long to pass over to military? Geneva convention doesn't apply here, sulu isnt a farking country, heck they aren't even recognized as sultan in the first place.
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QUOTE(Username is username @ Mar 12 2013, 09:03 AM)
Not trained? Gosh. U think those police are the biasa2 one? Polis hutan different from Polis gerakan am or the one at bandar duduk balai.
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Trained for survival is a yes and must. However does polis hutan is being trained to engage in combat?

Already got intel more than 100pax fully armed and yet our few good men die onto the hand of intruder in our own backyard.

Dey...what happen our army strength and our army general ability?

Now is the age of satellite and unmanned vehicle for surveillance and still sending army to frontline?



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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Mar 12 2013, 09:22 AM)
Trained for survival is a yes and must. However does polis hutan is being trained to engage in combat?

Already got intel more than 100pax fully armed and yet our few good men die onto the hand of intruder in our own backyard.

Dey...what happen our army strength and our army general ability?

Now is the age of satellite and unmanned vehicle for surveillance and still sending army to frontline?
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yes it took some time for the military to take over but, Malaysia cant simply send the troopers. what happened before was, the sulus were not declared as "combatan" but rather as criminal. the army does not have any power for their action but police was. that is why after the Philipine said they were not involved with the sulus, only Malaysia send the army to take over the situation. We dont want to declare war first because it will affect many things. we wouldnt want to be rushing to make a decision in a situation like this right?
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 11 2013, 05:41 PM)
The thing is, this TUDM fella not know anything about politics. I thought only in movie, they are the "yes sirs" without hesitation for jobs. But in actual fact its all about politics. Which that guy seriously has no clue of. We use PDRM because it was to show that force was not necessary to deal with them because we will use negotiations. Using police is also the first end of peaceful dealings. Also it will show that using police is not a war warning to another country. In this case Philippines. So we will treat it as a small case as it is. In fact its standard around the world. Unless u are in war torn country or North Korea.

On the local front, if straight away deploy army troop there, what would you think? The ppl who live there would think its already war. I'm not saying PDRM are free target practice. But when u deal with such situation, Army is last resort. If u say we should get rid of illegals in Malaysia, immediately deploy army to get them. What do u think the message is to the other country? Yes if u are a mad for the country guy, u would do so. But in reality no way! Don't even quote komunis, because it was in a different senario.

All the stupid idiots i see posting here and there never even say anything about why police is used and not army first. BECAUSE U DON'T FREAKING KNOW HOW COUNTRY SECURITY WORKS! This is no video game. I u wipe off those guys on the first day, u can see Philipines would do a lot of shit to us. U know poor country can get support easily. They just lay out their country economy vs our economy as a fact to get support and make us look like a bully. The reason why none of them can do anything to us is because we still do some things by the book.
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QUOTE(Username is username @ Mar 12 2013, 12:57 PM)
yes it took some time for the military to take over but, Malaysia cant simply send the troopers. what happened before was, the sulus were not declared as "combatan" but rather as criminal. the army does not have any power for their action but police was. that is why after the Philipine said they were not involved with the sulus, only Malaysia send the army to take over the situation. We dont want to declare war first because it will affect many things. we wouldnt want to be rushing to make a decision in a situation like this right?
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I din know that malaysian time standard already creep into our royal military. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
If this continue, ever if WW3 occur, our norm civilian chance of survival will be goes to zero

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Mar 12 2013, 01:21 PM)
I din know that malaysian time standard already creep into our royal military. sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
If this continue, ever if WW3 occur, our norm civilian chance of survival will be goes to zero
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what malaysian time standard? i didnt say any of this did I?

The World War and invasion like this is totally two different things. like i said, we were NOT in a war until the army came.
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QUOTE(Username is username @ Mar 12 2013, 01:30 PM)
what malaysian time standard? i didnt say any of this did I?

The World War and invasion like this is totally two different things. like i said, we were NOT in a war until the army came.
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Did u ever organize a meeting or training group among local malaysian?
Did u ever experience our gomen time management?
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Did u ever organize a meeting or training group among local malaysian?
Did u ever experience our gomen time management?
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so? your point is?? how is it related to the situation at Lahad Datu? just because army lambat bertindak is it?
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One does not simply send city council's dog catchers to catch a lion that escaped from zoo.
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satu negara tiada askar tiada masalah, satu negara tiada polis ada masalah besar.

hari hari biasa, polis bekerja tapi hari hari biasa, askar goyang telur.

bila ada perang, baru nak keluar bekerja, SEDAR la sikit askar MALAYSIA yang malas.

CONTOHI askar askar negara China yang rajin. Apabila tiada perang, mereka membuat barangan pisau and dapur untuk dipasarkan and dijual untuk membantu kewangan negaranya.

TAK macam askar Malaysia yang menghabiskan wang negara.

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