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k00Lric
post Mar 17 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Mar 17 2013, 09:09 PM)
me simply hentam also kena... laugh.gif
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Yeah, found it there but now need to know whats the drive ratio. Anyone knows the manual drive ratio? Our gearbox code is F5MBB.
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post Mar 18 2013, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Mar 17 2013, 11:56 PM)
pelan chiao drive ratio?
final drive?
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The pelan chiao drive ratio below:

To specify the final drive ratios you need the gear ratio for each gear and the drive ratio. These are
traditionally found in the specifications section of the owner’s manual or the manufacturer’s web site. A
final drive ratio (FDR) is the result of multiplying of the gear ratio (GR) and the drive ratio (DR), such as
FDR = GR x DR. Doing this simple calculation for each gear produces the series of final drive ratios.

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post Mar 18 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Mar 18 2013, 09:25 AM)
ohh.. diff terms.. we call it final drive ratio lo. if not mistaken 4.3 .. later i got on laptop update
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Okay, thnx kenny. nod.gif
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post Mar 18 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Mar 18 2013, 09:23 AM)
can get more hp ar... drool.gif
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Ehh, not really. Just some calculation for gearing. sweat.gif
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post Mar 18 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Mar 18 2013, 09:50 AM)
i got the whole excel build to calculate that jo geh.. in my lappy.. whatever wheelsize u masuk it will tell u what speed at wat rpm
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Can help to calculate for 225/40/18? Thnx.
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post Mar 18 2013, 11:07 AM

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Has anyone measure the frontal area of our car?
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post Mar 18 2013, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Mar 18 2013, 01:41 PM)
what you mean by frontal?
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Hmmm, the front space area of the car that goes/punch thru the air.

To calculate it (not perfect) with this formula (width/12)*(height-ground clearance/12)*0.84 = ft² (frontal area)
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post Mar 18 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Mar 18 2013, 02:35 PM)
Speed at 3,000 RPM ...

1st Gear - 24.05155775
2nd Gear - 44.48218052
3rd Gear - 63.83676769
4th Gear - 87.54569067
5th Gear - 109.7992404
in KM/h
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Thanks for the calculation. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 18 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 18 2013, 02:49 PM)
U mean the grill area?

To be frank i saw yoru question and have totally no idea what you were refering to
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The whole front space area of our car. Here's an image to explain it better.

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post Mar 18 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Mar 18 2013, 03:04 PM)
So smaller or bigger better?
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The frontal area alone can't really determine the number. We need to know the drag coefficient of our car as well. The lesser drag, the better it is for performance and fuel efficiency of the car.

You can read more about in the link below
Automobile drag coefficient

Anyone knows what's the CD of our car?

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post Mar 18 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Mar 18 2013, 03:19 PM)
There's a tradeoff, bigger grill opening = more cooling more drag, smaller grill opening = less cooling but less drag
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Yes, but there are still minor things you can do to improve it.
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post Mar 18 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 18 2013, 03:26 PM)
Wah lau.... kua chiong....

If you are concern with drag coefficiency of the car (usually comes in after 160~180kmh) then u should invest into folding side mirror...

Anyway.. its redundant.. cause there is little if any mods u can do to increase the coefficiency ....

Geez.... we still talking about a mid size sedan car ah? tongue.gif
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i know, our car is not sports car. Just by adding abit of things won't do much for our car since is a mid size sedan.

Is good to know abit more about our car. Dont you agree?

btw, Having a big spoiler does increase stability on high speed but also increase the drag of the car. whistling.gif
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post Mar 18 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Mar 18 2013, 06:24 PM)
Koolric, I think only Mitsu fellas know the frontal measuring area but given that info, what can you derive from it?

It is not so simple as to know the area in feet/inch/mm; the shape of the corresponding body area, the angle of slant, the curve of the bonnet, headlamps, windscreen, frontal openings (grill - lower & upper), the roof, the under carriage and the tail end boot all adds up the 0.29cd (sure so low ah?). Changing a little here or there may reduce drag here but adds drag there.

Yes, adding a spoiler at rear will induce more drag but introduce more downforce. It depends on your driving style if u need more frontal or rear downforce. Anyhow, our car will not achieve such speed where modding a few fins/spoiler/mods will achieve any substantial better fc or increase in measureable speed.

We could go on and on with this, but lets not be too critical about our cars. Cheers!
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Hmmm, i did mention that is no harm knowing abit more of car and of coz i will take into all the consideration that you have mentioned. I wasn't going mod, add fins or things like that. Of coz, nor these things will have much effect in increase fuel efficiency of our car.

I'm not here to make any challenge nor i'm against anyone, and if anyone here feels that my approach is insincere, snobbish or stuck up, please accept my apology.
Coz sometimes, i dont really feel the jokes that you guys are having.

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post Mar 19 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Mar 19 2013, 08:37 AM)
*RANT STARTS*

Drag Coefficient? Bleergh. The car can't even crack 300kmh and you guys are worried about drag.

In all seriousness. You think adding a couple of fins and wings here and there is gonna change things much? On a road going (sometimes if perasan go into track) car?

Not unless you're planning to drive 180 ALL THE TIME.

And performance mods? Well, it's a family compact car (or so the Westerners say), how much "performance" do you plan to wring out of it? Without turning it into an unreliable mess?

Good luck anyway.

Oh if you don't enjoy the TCSS, you're in the wrong car club lol.

*RANT OVER*

Chabutzzz...
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Knowing abit more do no harm. Don't u agree?

did i ever say to add fins or wings on our car will change things?

didn't you mod your car as well? did u make ur car into a unreliable mess? Btw, is family sedan. is not a compact car.

And thank you for ranting, so i know what's i post will have so much of ranting ere.


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