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 Samsung Galaxy Note II LYN's Official Thread V19, 2nd Gen of the original "Phablet" XXDMB4

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brotan
post Mar 12 2013, 03:50 PM

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btw, anyone has any idea if S4 NFC is on battery or battery cover?

Note : I know it is not out yet but just asking

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post Mar 15 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 14 2013, 11:56 PM)
Remember to use the SHORT CABLE that comes with this powerbank. The short cable gives you consistent 1800 GCC reading (see post 3) while the long cable is only about 1000-1200.
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that's true

i got so many cables (ori cables, oem cables, short, long, etc..), can test many many combo

powerbank need short + good quality cables only can achieve full speed potential

Yoobao original provide that cable

i also just got a sample from my supplier for oem powerbank cables + connector. 1800ma achieved biggrin.gif

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post Mar 15 2013, 11:29 AM

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anyone know if s4 NFC on the battery or battery cover?
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post Mar 15 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 15 2013, 11:34 AM)
What the best deal for power bank u guys got or the best?

Rm145 for yoobao thunder cheap?  I want buy
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post Mar 17 2013, 04:03 PM

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Hi all

I dissected an original cable cry.gif to do some experiment

Was surprised the inside cable is different from oem ones I seen before

Any idea the aluminium wire shield and the aluminium wrapper enclosing the real charging cable is for what purpose?

Is this one of the reason 2a speed can be achieved? Or this is more towards data transfer purpose?

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post Mar 17 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 17 2013, 04:13 PM)
I have experience with data cabling. It looks like twisted pair to me, and the shielding either protects against signal crosstalk, or grounding, or maybe both.

In the case of 2A, perhaps grounding is an important part of the equation?

Is the shielded core made of solid conductor or twisted strand? Data transmission needs solid conductor, but electrical transmission is fine with twisted strand.
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It is made of 3 parts

The outer layer is made of fine wires you see on the left side. Tested with multimeter, it is conductive material

The middle layer is the wrapper thing like in the middle of the pic. Also conductive material

Inner is the actual data and charging cable itself

Most importantly would like to know those additional layers does it affect charging speed
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post Mar 17 2013, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 17 2013, 04:30 PM)
External strand is for grounding. The internal sleeve is for data integrity protection (reduce external signal interference). So this cable is what is known as Shielded Twisted Pair (STP).

STP has better characteristics transmitting data over longer distances than UTP (Unshielded).

All this helps DATA. Charging wise, I have no idea, except that if the conductor material is good quality, we expect better charging qualities.
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that is very insightful. thanks

as for the charging cable (red / black), i notice the size not much difference from oem but real speed is different

i guess they use high conductive material for ori cables
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post Mar 17 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 17 2013, 04:40 PM)
What "speed" do you mean? Data transmission speed or Charging mAh speed?
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post Mar 17 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 17 2013, 04:43 PM)
Should be a purer copper I guess. Same goes for Data transmission. Conductor quality is important.
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post Mar 17 2013, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 17 2013, 05:18 PM)
Last thing. Could you shave off the insulator on one of the USB signal wires (doesn't matter red/black/green/white)? Is it single conductor or strand conductor?

Just curious as I haven't done much soldering in awhile.
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Strand

shocking.gif Wow another surprise. Samsung NOT using copper (copper brown color)

Is that silver?
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 20 2013, 11:20 PM)
All, somebody provided this link yesterday:

http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-...b-apple-is.html

Excellent article.

I added it to post 6, but please let me know who submitted so I can acknowledge.

It's added to a new category called Charger and Charging Related.

brotan you may want to take a look at this article.
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thx bro. looked at it

some things i can test with my machine

but not all things though

but thanks for the inputs

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