s4 performance wiser, with some exclusive features like air gesture, "finger-less scrolling"
note 2 bigger screen, cheaper price

1. Brand. Any
2. Budget. <800
3. Specs. heavy social networking, navigation, taking pictures, videocalling, microSD card slot(heavy user) , reading/editing pdf & words file
4. Size. around 5"

my considerations are between Huawei Honor 3C, Asus Zenfone 5 (2GB RAM Version, order thru taobao) & 2nd hand Note 2. or are thr any other options?

and is it suggestible to get 2nd hand Note 2 or just get a new phone?
i wonder how MT6582 fairs against Atom Z2580, if sifus suggest its more or less the same, then I would just go for H3C since got local warranty here..

how about the custom / AOSP rom availability on those 2. both are nay?

or any china octa core phone recommended?

ikr. but current availability is TD-SCDMA version. WCDMA version haven't released. even Singapore market x ada lagi. xiaomi hit malaysia market liao but haven got actual release of any products yet..

rumours suggest by this or next month.
lenovo a850+ / s939 camera not that good. some other forumer suggests Coolpad F1.
btw anybody heard of ULePhone? gooding?