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coinstar
post Mar 9 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:21 AM)
This calculation was shared by a LYN forumer some time back which ive tweaked to suit.

Very often, we always focus on the resale value of a particular model while ignoring the start up costs and monthly loan repayment costs. This tabulation will show you why cars with lower resale value may actually be a cheaper. This is of course assuming maintenance costs are similar.

Peugeot 407 Premium 2.0L

Purchase price (2008) = $136,888
Downpayment = $13,688 (10%)
Interest rate = 3%
Tenure = 60 months (5 years)
Monthly loan payment = $2,361
Total loan paid = $2361 x 60 = $141679
Total paid for car = $141679 (loan) + $13688 (dp)= $155,367
Resell car 2013 (after 5 years) for $70k (49% loss)
Total loss (after 5 years) = $155,367 (what you paid for) - $70,000 (what you get) = $85,367
Toyota Camry 2.0L

Purchase price (2008) = $154,990
Downpayment = $15,499
Interest rate = 3%
Tenure = 60 months (5 years)
Monthly payment = $2,673
Total loan paid = $2,673 x 60 = $160,414
Total paid for car = $160,414 + $15,499 = $175,913
Resell car 2013 (after 5 years) for $100k (35% loss)
Total loss (after 5 years) = $175913 (what you paid for) - $100,000 (what you get) = $75,913

For simplicity, let's assume service/maintenance costs are equal. Thus, after 5 years, a Peugeot 407 vs Toyota Camry:

407 has HIGHER total loss
$85,367 (407) - $75,913 (Camry) = $9,454

407 has LOWER start-up cost
$15,499 (camry) - $13,688 (407) = $1,811

407 has HIGHER monthly positive cash flow through lower installments
$2,673 (camry) - $2,361 (407) x 60 months = $ 18,720
SUMMARY

This clearly shows that although the Peugeot 407 has RM 9,454 lower trade in value after 5 years but it gains a total of RM 20,531 from lower start up costs and lower monthly loan installments.

Thus, buying cars with lower resale value isnt actually a poor financial decision. So i think with this, we should not allow resale values to govern our choice of vehicles. Safety, value for money, specifications and maintenance costs should take precedence.

What do you think?
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U confused with cash flow... Total paid for Pug 85k and total paid for Camry 76K... Camry still cheaper..

coinstar
post Mar 9 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:21 AM)
This calculation was shared by a LYN forumer some time back which ive tweaked to suit.

Very often, we always focus on the resale value of a particular model while ignoring the start up costs and monthly loan repayment costs. This tabulation will show you why cars with lower resale value may actually be a cheaper. This is of course assuming maintenance costs are similar.

Peugeot 407 Premium 2.0L

Purchase price (2008) = $136,888
Downpayment = $13,688 (10%)
Interest rate = 3%
Tenure = 60 months (5 years)
Monthly loan payment = $2,361
Total loan paid = $2361 x 60 = $141679
Total paid for car = $141679 (loan) + $13688 (dp)= $155,367
Resell car 2013 (after 5 years) for $70k (49% loss)
Total loss (after 5 years) = $155,367 (what you paid for) - $70,000 (what you get) = $85,367
Toyota Camry 2.0L

Purchase price (2008) = $154,990
Downpayment = $15,499
Interest rate = 3%
Tenure = 60 months (5 years)
Monthly payment = $2,673
Total loan paid = $2,673 x 60 = $160,414
Total paid for car = $160,414 + $15,499 = $175,913
Resell car 2013 (after 5 years) for $100k (35% loss)
Total loss (after 5 years) = $175913 (what you paid for) - $100,000 (what you get) = $75,913

For simplicity, let's assume service/maintenance costs are equal. Thus, after 5 years, a Peugeot 407 vs Toyota Camry:

407 has HIGHER total loss
$85,367 (407) - $75,913 (Camry) = $9,454

407 has LOWER start-up cost
$15,499 (camry) - $13,688 (407) = $1,811

407 has HIGHER monthly positive cash flow through lower installments
$2,673 (camry) - $2,361 (407) x 60 months = $ 18,720
SUMMARY

This clearly shows that although the Peugeot 407 has RM 9,454 lower trade in value after 5 years but it gains a total of RM 20,531 from lower start up costs and lower monthly loan installments.

Thus, buying cars with lower resale value isnt actually a poor financial decision. So i think with this, we should not allow resale values to govern our choice of vehicles. Safety, value for money, specifications and maintenance costs should take precedence.

What do you think?
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U confused with cash flow... Total paid for Pug 85k and total paid for Camry 76K... Camry still cheaper..

coinstar
post Mar 9 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 9 2013, 08:23 PM)
Ure the one who is confused. Cash flow means the amount of money you have LEFT which in this case is the excess amount of the monthly loan repayments.
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lol... In total u pay more for pug...
coinstar
post Mar 10 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(rompers @ Mar 10 2013, 06:03 AM)
No buddy..
For the sake of simplicity, we should take the purchase price of the brand new cars and minus out the final respective total loss values. The difference will tell you which is supposedly a more 'pocket friendly' (for lack of a better word) car.

P/S - provided that everything else remains constant (a.k.a. ceteris paribus) smile.gif

Edit: That's to my understanding-lah..if TS meant something else, then perhaps he could shed some light and correct me.
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I don't really understand... In total u pay RM85K for 407 but you only pay RM76K for Camry... What myth u try to bust? I cannot brain this simple calculation...
coinstar
post Mar 11 2013, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(LenovoT @ Mar 11 2013, 02:47 AM)
You may save more on monthly installments & start-up cost with 407. But, isn't that Camry get 30k more after 5 years? Hence, the total of RM85k (407) & RM76k (Camry) actually represent your total cash outflows for the 5 years of ownership.  smile.gif
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This post has been edited by coinstar: Mar 11 2013, 06:55 AM

 

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