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 Car Resale Values, Fact or Myth?

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Darcy2
post Mar 10 2013, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:21 AM)
This calculation was shared by a LYN forumer some time back which ive tweaked to suit.

Very often, we always focus on the resale value of a particular model while ignoring the start up costs and monthly loan repayment costs. This tabulation will show you why cars with lower resale value may actually be a cheaper. This is of course assuming maintenance costs are similar.

Peugeot 407 Premium 2.0L

Purchase price (2008) = $136,888
Downpayment = $13,688 (10%)
Interest rate = 3%
Tenure = 60 months (5 years)
Monthly loan payment = $2,361
Total loan paid = $2361 x 60 = $141679
Total paid for car = $141679 (loan) + $13688 (dp)= $155,367
Resell car 2013 (after 5 years) for $70k (49% loss)
Total loss (after 5 years) = $155,367 (what you paid for) - $70,000 (what you get) = $85,367
Toyota Camry 2.0L

Purchase price (2008) = $154,990
Downpayment = $15,499
Interest rate = 3%
Tenure = 60 months (5 years)
Monthly payment = $2,673
Total loan paid = $2,673 x 60 = $160,414
Total paid for car = $160,414 + $15,499 = $175,913
Resell car 2013 (after 5 years) for $100k (35% loss)
Total loss (after 5 years) = $175913 (what you paid for) - $100,000 (what you get) = $75,913

For simplicity, let's assume service/maintenance costs are equal. Thus, after 5 years, a Peugeot 407 vs Toyota Camry:

407 has HIGHER total loss
$85,367 (407) - $75,913 (Camry) = $9,454

407 has LOWER start-up cost
$15,499 (camry) - $13,688 (407) = $1,811

407 has HIGHER monthly positive cash flow through lower installments
$2,673 (camry) - $2,361 (407) x 60 months = $ 18,720
SUMMARY

This clearly shows that although the Peugeot 407 has RM 9,454 lower trade in value after 5 years but it gains a total of RM 20,531 from lower start up costs and lower monthly loan installments.

Thus, buying cars with lower resale value isnt actually a poor financial decision. So i think with this, we should not allow resale values to govern our choice of vehicles. Safety, value for money, specifications and maintenance costs should take precedence.

What do you think?
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You are missing out an important element in your analysis, the repair and maintenance cost.

Pugs are well known to incur higher maintenance cost than Toyota. Thats obvious.

And what about fuel consumption and efficiency?

Without these important elements, your analysis is inconclusive.
Darcy2
post Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 10 2013, 08:58 PM)
Didnt i already qualify that? This is just a simple calculation to show that resale values in itself may not be high when compared to the start up costs the the monthly loan repayments. IM not talking about the cost of ownership here. Im solely talking about the resale value. This is specially directed to many of us who blindly say resale value for a make is higher without considering the downpayment and savings from monthly repayments.

Yes if we talk about TOTAL OWNERSHIP COSTS then Japanese brands will be cheaper to maintain for sure. But right now we're solely on the myth of resale values.
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So you put maintenance cost and fuel efficiency at constant and just compare the resale values apple to apple?

Those two are major elements of the resale value because they determine savings from wear and tear of the car.

No wonder there's little difference between the two.


Darcy2
post Mar 12 2013, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:22 AM)
Bro, how can u possibly say that maintenance and FC are major elements of resale value? Resale value is resale value. Its not the same as maintenance costs and fuel efficiency. When u add up everything then its called TOTAL OWNERSHIP COSTS. Im not refering to that. Im refering to the RESALE VALUE in particular. Im refering to the ACTUAL COST involved.
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Look, when buyers look at the resale value, they also want to see the quality, reputation and reliability of the car. Which means, whether a second hand car would incur more maintenance cost in relative to other second hand cars of that age.

For example, if the Hyundai Matrix 2006 and Proton Wira 2006 were priced at say RM15k, which would you prefer?

You wouldn't want the Hyundai Matrix, right? Because its well known to have high repair costs.

 

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