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post Mar 26 2013, 11:18 PM

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GCF trade is insane for Ace Odin....can get so many aces lol.
Just checked....

1. Odin: Like Anubis ....less HP/ATK...much more AGI & slightly more DEF ... met with Marcho kena OHKO 1st (marcho has more AGI)
2. Shinryu: Remind of boosted H-Nix+ Aspara ...less AGI than H-Nix...much higher HP/WIS/ATK (good QS atk pow) but No Revive..
3. Omega: Boosted Mict ...if u like Mict..then u will like this card. So much MP ..bro Supermac fave ...kaboom!
4. Siren: S Banshee younger sister? but all stats lower than SB...

SO i think Shin is pretty good card...good addition QS card.

Base stat link below ....

http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-As-u...all-stat?page=3

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post Mar 26 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 27 2013, 12:34 AM)
good or not i dunno .. but i like his artwork and name .. he's the only reason i throwing coins .
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Yeah i always like Odin ...gaya dark killer wink.gif
Shinryu artwork also pretty nice...
Omega remind of many FF episod...FF7 ...Omega has huge HP ...hidden monster...
Then Omega again on the FF13-2 ...DLC monster...lol ...which look similar for this card artwork..
Siren artwork...IMO worst of 4 ...dun like it at all. Dunno why SE come out this not interested card & with so so stat somemore..
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post Mar 27 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Mar 27 2013, 01:23 PM)
Not exactly complete, but i kinda sienz waiting alrd keeping this deck in the dark.
So Social Battle with my Play Deck (IGN Negisf) -
My deck's name : Al Qaeda (named by Nightheart), nice name. Kinda like it, so decided to use it.

1) jkleejk : -2
2) funnytone : +1
3) MBR : -3
4) Last Wolf : -3
5) StitDawg : -1
6) Marcus Yap : -3
7) WSK 710 : -1
8) Nightwind : +1
9) Desilencer : +2

Result is not so bad wor.. My play deck Got Chance to to Win Elite-S Rank deck 1 wor..
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what is ur deck team member? sweat.gif
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post Mar 27 2013, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Mar 27 2013, 03:50 PM)
Just caught another Odin at work time
Reborn and level and fsemp while mp I add 200

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post Mar 27 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Mar 27 2013, 04:21 PM)
Wow, I'm surprised someone caught Ace Siren already. I guess this round most newer players have better luck than the seniors. Even myself after finishing up all my 12 free SHT from multiple Id still couldn't get any 5*. sad.gif I'm very hesistant to buy coins because of this.

Anyway, out of boredom I checked out these new FFV and see which of them can tip the balance of the game. So far, only analyzed two:

ODIN

Frankly, I never played FFV before, but I've met Odin countless number of times throughout FF series. Top 5 summons apart from Shiva and Ifrit. At reborn Ace, his maxed stats are:
HP 4725
ATK 4116
DEF 4079
AGI 4439 shocking.gif
His best skillsets are:
DEF+20%, physical+4, ATK+25%.

Hands down, the new fastest non-bordered guardian in this game. Bye bye Barbie, bye bye Marco. overall, Odin is the opposite of Golbez. Massive ATK, average WIS with sonic speed and decent skillset. Thankfully, he isn't OP like the other older guardians (Morrighan still the most OP). He doesn't have QS, no Last Stand and though his physical damage may bring down a lot of guardians via ohko, some will still survive his onslaught especially the almightys. No, none of the normal cards would be able to survive his damage (I think), but the almightys that would normally survive him are Xmas Banshee, Golbez, S. Bird, Behemoth. There are other almightys that could still survive Odin's physical hit, but the ones I mentioned are the notable Elite favourites.

To use him, its probably not advised to place him in the first slot, mainly because he will always lose to Almighty Lamia and Almighty V. Specter. Although I'm quite sure he will win against a RB Ace/Sonic Barbie/Marco, I think he will lose against a RB Ace Morrighan. Also, Odin doesn't have LS nor QS, so that makes him an individual player. Place him somewhere in the middle or last five spots to disrupt enemy's flow. Hopefully, if he meet guardians like Rubicante, Ettin, Shiva or the likes or LS guardians such as Atlas, Nuada or Thor, he can take them out properly (not tested/proven).
I forgot to add this, but I think a RB Ace Odin has better defensive quality than a RB Ace Golbez. And because of that, I believe he is also a suitable candidate for the last spot. He may even be able to tank a Frenzied Jugg's QS, and perhaps even a Maniacal Jugg's QS. (really wish I could test this)

So overall:

DURABILITY: 10/10
STRENGTH: 9/10
SPEED: 10/10
MAGIC: 6/10

SIDE NOTE: I wouldn't consider making a Sonic Odin despite his massive speed. He doesn't have QS to boot and despite being faster than Morrgihan, Odin could still only hit once before Morrighan's turn. Its also useless against alm sonic lamia and v. specter, they're still faster compared to a sonic odin.
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Thx for the details analysis...btw Sonic Barbie is faster with 4460 :)of course ...not sure what is the Agi for Sonic Odin...

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post Mar 27 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Mar 27 2013, 04:51 PM)
Ahh, how did I missed that? Thanks for the correction. I suppose that means a sonic barbie could probably take out Odin 1 vs 1. Is just enforcing my opinion that Odin isn't suitable to go up agaisnt the speed demons in the first spot. Although I doubt you meet amy RB Sonic Barbie in the top ranks, but if she does exist, my guess is that she'd be placed in the first slot.

I'm doing a review on Shiryu now, and frankly I rate it higher than Odin. sweat.gif
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BTW i used to have Sonic Barbie ... traded away. I think she can OHKO Odin since his WIS not that high. I always put sonic barb as start in my master coli deck.
Haha bro, i value Shinryu more than Odin bro, same as u do. To me I think Ace Marcho is better than Odin as it has QS ....Odin like Anubis ..
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post Mar 27 2013, 10:46 PM

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Today met 2 new card
1. RB Alm Dom (not sure what type it is), anyway met my Alm Golbez, kena OHKO by my card.
2. RB Odin >>>OHKO by my Jugg ...

Lol...lesson learn...dun put Alm Dom as starters..especially Sonic type...
Odin...still can't withstand Alm Jugg QS ...

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post Mar 28 2013, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Mar 27 2013, 11:51 PM)
Huh? ALM Dom can't OHKO your Golbez?
The Wis quite high wor. Even my ace shiva rb also can OHKO ALM Golbez wor.

Odin can't withstand jugger's QS is normal.
I think only a few that jugger can't OHKO. 2 that I know is ALM Pumpkin Titan & Bold ALM S.Bird.
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I think opponent Dom using standard light+4 only. Golbez can tank this one.
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post Mar 28 2013, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Mar 28 2013, 09:09 AM)
Sorry bro. Was away awhile just now.
Sorry for the trouble.
Wah. Sau-Q all wor. Lagi say mau avoid at all cost. Chehhh
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Me2 also wanna lari from his deck when see him in the coli...
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post Mar 28 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 10:47 AM)
people are trying their best to get as much QS + LS combo in their deck ..

i've tried it before :

golbez + h nix
nuada + sphinx
thor + barb
atlas + morri
gilga + lamia

this deck of mine lose like crab , once the flow disrupt , i'm doomed ..

then i think of a full QS deck with no LS , but some high dmg tanker

morri
h nix
sphinx
anubis
barb
lamia
rubi
chariot
xmas
alm dom

dunno will do good or not .. but i think the outcome is bad for sure , no spell to disrupt enemy flow ..

then i come out with a idea , QS + SD , LS + SD

QS+ SD
morri starter
sphinx + crocell
barb + pandora
h nix + spector
marcho + omega
maniacal

LOL ~ !!!

LS + SD
morri
nuada + crocell
atlas + pandora
thor + spector
golbez + omega
maniacal
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Good idea, starting to be Coli tactician ...
BTW u gotten Omega ka?

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post Mar 28 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 10:54 AM)
colli tactician your place is still undisputed here !!

u can give me a pangkat , kacau king tactician , QS + SD , LS + SD , this kinda thing can do it for fun , mana can sapu elite rank S regular like u ..

no wor , no new 5* for me yet ... saw omega got SD ma , so slot it in the combo lo  whistling.gif
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One coli battle, super close win....last card...my marcho vs alm dom (suppose sonic i think)...but he didn't change the light+4 to darkness+4...Dom move 1st, marcho survive...kill em back! flex.gif ..
One more occasion, opponent H-Nix cast poison to my Specter...survive! Killem back! flex.gif ...Specter kill 2 card in a row in S rank! lol thumbup.gif
BTW, Alm Golbez can tank Alm Jugg QS att....

Fight 10battle...
Starter: 6 Lamia, 3 Morrig, 1 Dom...

So seem Morrig as starter is good to counter Lamia ...

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 11:54 AM)
nice !! thx for listing out the starters ~ i'll stick with morri as starter !! i wanna eat lamia cox i don't have lamia ...

alm behe at 3rd p- 4th position is something i hate the most !! always tank a few hit or take down 2 of mine .. disrupt my whole deck flow .. zzzzzzz

wahhh ~ cruising in elite without any hiccup ~

elite ~ truely elite master  brows.gif
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Behe, just taruk ur specter / xmas will kill it.
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post Mar 28 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Mar 28 2013, 12:30 PM)
Yup, alm Behe fails big time against speed elemental/Death. But even against alm Golbez he'll still lose.

Meeting a lot of our members along the elite. WSK710 at 72nd position, Last Wolf at 74th position, jkleejk also somewhere there. Dem, you guys really good. A lot of alm Dominion this week, and most people place him in first lineup. Too bad his magic isn't very strong.

I usually place an Almighty Golbez in my first slot, and everytime I met a Morrighan, golbez sure wins against it. But there was one opponent I met just now, killed my alm Gombez using his Morrighan. I was quite shocked. Didn't manage to catch the animation, but I think his morrighan was using a magic skill. Totally weird, but amazingly it works. Didn't meet too many new FFV cards but seems like the common ones are Odin and Siren, rarely meet Omega but NONE was using a Shiryu, which to me I think is a decent card. Siren is quite a gamechanger. I hate meeting her in the first slot, because my alm Golbez will always lose to a Death. My next card in line is Morrighan, but even she will lose to Siren, especially when her Revive works. So I usually already lose to a Siren deck early in the battle.

i know a member here caught an Ace Siren. My suggestion, wait till coli ends to trade her off. She'll be highly sought after. Its not impossible to trade her with two good aces plus one decent type I should think.
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I m now using alm golbez as starter work fine till now. So didn't meet siren shinryu or omega... Met Odin most of the time, to me Odin is not as good as it is... Coz he dun Hv combo skill so it s work alone like Anubisz... Omega, shin n siren maybe better coz Hv SD or revive...
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post Mar 28 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 01:15 PM)
i'm hiding away from these big boss .. see their dmg also scared  sweat.gif

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Aiya just jugg is there scare u only, sometimes those 3k+ opponent is better, so diff to judge. Then u need see his rank 1st.
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post Mar 28 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 01:11 PM)
i'm using morri as starter , when meed alm behe , golbez , my morri lose ~ morri only win lamia with LS kicks in .. feel kinda waste away my morri just to be there to counter that damn lamia ..

bro ~ since u using alm golbez as starter , did u face any lamia ? u win or lamia win ?

i face a omega as starter , my morri lose ... LS kick in scratch the omega, he left with like 10% hp ...

then i lose the match to odin + siren .. this guy have 3 new 5* in it ....

5 colli tic just burn .. all win 2 lose 1 ... instead of 180 points i get only 50 points ..

siennnnn~
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lamia win but I got other QS card to kill lamia n opponent 2nd card still lose due to agi slower...

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post Mar 28 2013, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 02:00 PM)
bro ~ your field deck same as colli deck ?
lamia win golbez right ? but what do u mean by got another QS card kill lamia ? opponent 2nd card agi lower ?
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Field / Coli deck may different depend on my mood or situation. if i am hardworking i will make sure both same smile.gif
Ok for lamia case, after she killed Golbez, Golbez LS still will damage certain (1/3) lamia hp, morrig will QS Lamia, then lamia att, but LS kick in, she also is killed. Or Lamia is already left some HP, high pow QS card like Marcho will kill Lamia instantly ...then next opponent card will be killed too if its agi less than Marcho ...
Or if ur card is XmAS, then Lamia gone case.
So ...depend on ur setup...

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post Mar 28 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 03:20 PM)
owh okay ~ understand now , but if like this , we also lose the upper hand already lo no ?

cox i see many ppl must win the 1st round ( means 1st card vs 1st card , the 1st card must be still standing when opponent 2nd card comes in )

this case u got upper hand , cox u if 1 kill 1 all the way to the end , u will finish opponent 10 card 1st ..

correct me if i'm wrong  blush.gif
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Upper hand only on 1st card, but 2nd card u will win back, 3rd card all start from fresh, then it depend on ur 3rd card.
This way, 1 starter setup can cater for many opponent starter. No need change deck arrangement so much.
But this is not 100% sure wins...depend on the opponent SD/Revive rate..
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post Mar 28 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 05:49 PM)
at least it's a marcho ~ i have non phy QSer LOL

barb --> dark4  doh.gif
sphinx --> dark4  doh.gif
h nix --> dark 4  doh.gif
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too many elem att also no good. I think proportion should be 70/30 : phy/elem ..
Only those elem tanker need to take care is Alm Golbez, Alm Xmas ...
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post Mar 28 2013, 06:13 PM

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gotten the slime hunt reward. 5agiIII +5000pts...so guys what are ur rewards?
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QUOTE(supermac @ Mar 28 2013, 06:21 PM)
yes boss ~

that's why i'm looking up and down for marcho ...

chariot kinda out dated edi so no point aiming for it right ?

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some 1 offer me ace marcho  unborn lvl 1 clean ~

he want my rb ace anubis FSeMP + toppers ~  hmm.gif

any comment >?
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i think it is worth it...depend what topper he want.
FYI now bad type marcho also cost lots. even bad type anubis can cos u like good type card like chao nuada...so u need to prepare bullet to find his partner.

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