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> Lahad Datu Stand-off. v9[Serious], Ops Daulat 53 kills

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post Mar 8 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(malaysiansunite @ Mar 8 2013, 09:10 PM)
Maybe not MILF, but MNLF sure looks suspicious  hmm.gif
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MNLF are breaking apart..even their top leadership were not aligned with nurmisuari's faction..MILF won't interfere sabah crisis because they are the one we dealing with to work with the peace process...any radical voice within their faction over this issue will risk their future in the peace talk


my guess is, IF the peace-treaty completely established & infra development were shown in mindanao, the MNLF people will slowly go away from MNLF & joining MILF..MNLF will shrink eventually due to decreasing popularity

but there's a other faction, the UTC (United Tausug Citizen)..im not sue this faction supporting who, or is it independent
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Mar 8 2013, 09:15 PM)


Its just training but give you a 'idea' what it was like from the sky
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since we gont no photos of the jets bombing here is what it MIGHT be like
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i always admire fighter jet...looks sooooo nice... smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(malaysiansunite @ Mar 8 2013, 09:18 PM)
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/56668/p...-princess-means

Pinoy media can't get more ridiculous than this sleep.gif
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lol comment there
"siti sarah - gi mampuslah " laugh.gif
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 8 2013, 09:08 PM)
both MILF n MNLF denies ties or giving help to them... they are basically alone...
but of coz, theres a big chance they're lying...
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even they are involve now they are cepat cuci tangan.
since thing will be too messy for them to involve with.
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Mar 8 2013, 09:19 PM)
Agreed..beside since when did our guys shooting at children and women..? rclxub.gif
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And its at Tawi-Tawi. Thats the funny part.
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:04 PM)
I dare them to personally come to Sabah.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 8 2013, 09:16 PM)
yup, we will kill every single 1 of terrorist.
until they don't even dare to step foot on Sabah.
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LOLOLOL... rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 8 2013, 08:58 PM)
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...-safe-in-sabah/

Family: Agbimuddin hungry but safe in Sabah
MARCH 08, 2013

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Jacel (left) said women and children are being shot indiscriminately. – File pic

MANILA, March 8 — Rebel leader Agbimuddin Kiram’s family told local media that Agbimuddin and his band of rebels are safe in Lahad Datu, although they are now suffering from hunger because of constantly evading Malaysian security forces’ relentless assault, the Philippine Daily Inquirer reported today.

The Inquirer reported that Abraham Idjirani, spokesperson of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, also confirmed that members of the Kirams’  Royal Security Forces have “regrouped”.

“They are constantly moving, not by boat, not by any means of transportation but by themselves.… They are on foot.… They are suffering from hunger,” Idjirani said at a press conference.

The report also said Idjirani was able to talk to Agbimuddin at around 2:30pm today.

Earlier, Jamalul Kiram’s daughter, Jacel Kiram, told the media that her uncle was safe in Lahad Datu but lambasted what she described as “maximum violence” unleashed by the Malaysian police and military.

“I was able to speak to one woman (in Tawi-Tawi) who kept on crying because she said children and women were being shot. While there was a call for maximum tolerance, there is indiscriminate firing (by the Malaysians).

“Maximum violence is what is happening.

“The instruction for them is to be always on the defensive, just be ready for any assault or attack. Just defense, no attack,” she said.

“Unfortunately, Malaysia is emboldened and decided to finish off the Filipinos in Sabah. It is clear that the government of PNoy  is very much in support of the Malaysian government.

“We pray and hope the President’s being Filipino would prevail so that he would address the situation in Sabah.”

She added that the fighting in Lahad Datu could not have happened had the emissaries of Malacanang been “efficient and effective.”

“What we need is to talk because if they really want to resolve this peacefully, our government should prove that. We want to talk if Malaysia wants to end this peacefully. We want to talk, but why don’t they want to talk to us?” Jacel was quoted as saying.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer also stated that Agbimuddin told Idjirani to ask the media’s help in “influencing Malaysia to follow the call of the United Nations to take heed of sobriety and dialogue with the Sultanate of Sulu.”
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Beheaded our police and now u demand for freedom?
Screw urself retards.
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mie131085 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:23 PM)
lol comment there
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(malaysiansunite @ Mar 8 2013, 01:18 PM)
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/56668/p...-princess-means

Pinoy media can't get more ridiculous than this sleep.gif
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"At 35, the eldest daughter of Kiram III, 74, and Dr. Fatima Cellah Kiram, had been trained for years to be the all-around go-to person in the Kiram household---learning to drive for her parents, cook and do other manual work."

fatima cellah kiram? patut ler.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 8 2013, 09:27 PM)
"At 35, the eldest daughter of Kiram III,  74, and Dr. Fatima Cellah Kiram, had been trained for years to be the all-around go-to person in the Kiram household---learning to drive for her parents, cook and do other manual work."

fatima cellah kiram? patut ler.
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cellah pukiram laugh.gif
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sorry this is couple of days old, but I just watched this.. Can't believe the main Filipino (non-Sulu, non-ARMM) labeling these terrorist as "Filipino" as in general Filipino. I need to see more non-ARMM/Mindanao Filipino if they are looking it the same..
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QUOTE(AKace @ Mar 8 2013, 09:29 PM)
cellah pukiram laugh.gif
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cepat je hang.. otak mmg kuning sungguh.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 8 2013, 12:58 PM)
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...-safe-in-sabah/

Family: Agbimuddin hungry but safe in Sabah
MARCH 08, 2013

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Jacel (left) said women and children are being shot indiscriminately. – File pic

MANILA, March 8 — Rebel leader Agbimuddin Kiram’s family told local media that Agbimuddin and his band of rebels are safe in Lahad Datu, although they are now suffering from hunger because of constantly evading Malaysian security forces’ relentless assault, the Philippine Daily Inquirer reported today.

The Inquirer reported that Abraham Idjirani, spokesperson of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, also confirmed that members of the Kirams’  Royal Security Forces have “regrouped”.

“They are constantly moving, not by boat, not by any means of transportation but by themselves.… They are on foot.… They are suffering from hunger,” Idjirani said at a press conference.

The report also said Idjirani was able to talk to Agbimuddin at around 2:30pm today.

Earlier, Jamalul Kiram’s daughter, Jacel Kiram, told the media that her uncle was safe in Lahad Datu but lambasted what she described as “maximum violence” unleashed by the Malaysian police and military.

“I was able to speak to one woman (in Tawi-Tawi) who kept on crying because she said children and women were being shot. While there was a call for maximum tolerance, there is indiscriminate firing (by the Malaysians).

“Maximum violence is what is happening.

“The instruction for them is to be always on the defensive, just be ready for any assault or attack. Just defense, no attack,” she said.

“Unfortunately, Malaysia is emboldened and decided to finish off the Filipinos in Sabah. It is clear that the government of PNoy  is very much in support of the Malaysian government.

“We pray and hope the President’s being Filipino would prevail so that he would address the situation in Sabah.”

She added that the fighting in Lahad Datu could not have happened had the emissaries of Malacanang been “efficient and effective.”

“What we need is to talk because if they really want to resolve this peacefully, our government should prove that. We want to talk if Malaysia wants to end this peacefully. We want to talk, but why don’t they want to talk to us?” Jacel was quoted as saying.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer also stated that Agbimuddin told Idjirani to ask the media’s help in “influencing Malaysia to follow the call of the United Nations to take heed of sobriety and dialogue with the Sultanate of Sulu.”
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i know lahad datu is as big as negeri sembilan. in NS, there are still a number of places which do not have cell coverage. since lahad datu is mainly palm plantation if not jungle, how do they keep in touch?

it seems that the princess is in contact with not just abgimuddin, but also some members of the group. if this is true, it means a number of them would be carrying mobile phones. this would also mean we should have found some on the dead bodies.
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 8 2013, 09:31 PM)
i know lahad datu is as big as negeri sembilan. in NS, there are still a number of places which do not have cell coverage. since lahad datu is mainly palm plantation if not jungle, how do they keep in touch?

it seems that the princess is in contact with not just abgimuddin, but also some members of the group. if this is true, it means a number of them would be carrying mobile phones. this would also mean we should have found some on the dead bodies.
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sat phone maybe?
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post Mar 8 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 8 2013, 09:27 PM)
"At 35, the eldest daughter of Kiram III,  74, and Dr. Fatima Cellah Kiram, had been trained for years to be the all-around go-to person in the Kiram household---learning to drive for her parents, cook and do other manual work."

fatima cellah kiram? patut ler.
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Fatima Cellah Kiram? I tot Fatima Shehan Kiram?
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 8 2013, 08:03 PM)
another round of shellings?glad they are at least still attacking someone. im worried that the Suluks would just slip away and disappear into the sea or worse, the public.. alot has been said about their guerilla warfare capabilities.

i found the NST story below was well written but slightly disturbing..
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please put this on 1st page! cry.gif
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QUOTE(monster795 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:34 PM)
sat phone maybe?
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That would make more sense.
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Mar 8 2013, 09:24 PM)
Beheaded our police and now u demand for freedom?
Screw urself retards.
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see his lips pun like kena stroke dah laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 8 2013, 09:16 PM)
Currently we are doing full hunting all over Sabah including possible mole to launched such attack or to be said involve in.
an increase in military present in several areas as being stated by the PM will fortified over grip and control over the security matter in long term.
it is sad we now only took the initiative to do such things a lesson that we did not learn from the abu sayaf incident.
MMEA is being say to increase its operation there even more.
As for police I hope they able to get more bullet proof vest, armor vehicle like the gurkha LAPV.

I think every1 in the security force is eager for revenge on the thing that did in semporna.
We are not fully rely on air strike.
the tuesday attack is a signal an intend to show power and a serious on how we dealt with terrorist.
Many of the terrorist supporter seem to be back off after we start labeling them as terrorist and seeing such scale off attack.

at least that what I'm think.
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is there anything can be done to attract ex-marine police to be in MMEA? as i am told most MMEA is ex-navy & marine police are much better in dealing with those suluks before this
for me, MMEA are still in developing stage..loopholes here & there but i think things may get right sooner or later, i hope sooner..cucuk la JPM kasi budget lebih sket, jgn la nak bagi decommisioned bot navy jer

yup, i think its time now to armed our police with armored vehicle like during communist time..

btw, my guess are like blogger shahpaskal's guess that the power projection were intended to those Philippine, not only to those kiram's pirates..

& we need some long-term psychological warfare like we did during insurgency so that our sub-councious mind will always see sulu intruders as an enemy, regardless what faction they from..respect their right in mindanao, but not when they invade us

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