u can use other lan cable as u like...
can use either line in or line out... not different...
but tat lan cable only have pin 1,2,3,6... u can see obviously from the connector which confirm can use by networking purpose

hi gkl83,
i am interested, but im little bit confused
i need to protect (2 PC, 1 CRT monitor, 1 LCD monitor, 1 DSL modem, 1 router), how many unit i need to buy?

option 1:
just buy 1 SF9512DSL + +

will this work?

option 2:
just buy a SF9512DSL MS2+3?

hope you can give me some advice

if use for 1set of PC, the option 1 can be used...

but since now u intended to use 2 PC at the same time, it may overload and overheat the SF9512DSL which able to support till 5A (1000w) only... recommended to get SF9512DSL MS2+3 which support till 10A (2000w) in order to play safe...

FYI, both of this units can use together with cal-lab products...

but not recommended to use Power Reel Extension Cord (can roll up 1)
the reason is bcos the longer of the cable, higher chances to get static charges into cable and damage ur equipment as well...

hi there...

juz adding u at msn..

wanna ask u few questions...

i got i set pc + monitor...then wan to use with ADSL modem + wireless router + phone line/lan cable .....

which u recomended? Trinity Series IT-Pack?

1. only 1 complete set of PC
2. dont have other PCs connecting the router wirely
3. all the equipment located at the same area/location (not separately)
4. not intended to protect telephone
Result: SF9512DSL will suit with ur requirement

if u have plenty of equipments which over 1000w, get IT pack instead...

here my layout plan...


area need to protect


1. yup protect 1 set PC only
2. got connect but at another room which oledi got surge protector
3. yup...the PC set + modem + router + phone line located same area
4. gimme advice on tis whether need to protect telephone set o not? gimme the opt with and without...

thx

now was clearer...
i will recommend u get MDSC0039 and SP9201DAF instead, the combination will better than SF9512DSL

MDSC0039 : protect power supply
SP9201DAF : replace the ADSL splitter flitter, it used to split into telephone and modem...

What is unit u using to protect the PC at another room? is it cal-lab brand also? if chapalang brand, pls avoid using it... if the protector fail to protect the PC, lightning will struck ur wireless router, modem... if unlucky whole PC set will get burnt as well...

MDSC0039 only for one 3-pin outlet only wor...

i need at least four 3-pin outler to power monitor,pc,router,modem...

u use MDSC0039 + <-- u should already have one, right?

EDIT: yo seller, 1 unit of SP9201DAF please. SMS me if anything.

This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Nov 17 2006, 09:35 PM

Whoa yeAh~! Great Seller u have here!

This guy is really patient with me. Actually I order from him like 1 week ago edi but wasn't feeling well so I had to delay the payment. But the moment I paid up, he immediately posted the item on the same day and I received it the next day... really speedy

Got myself a SP9201DSL to protect my Aztech ADSL modem. I'm quite impressed actually that this is the first time I found a lightning protector thing that can allow ADSL connection to run smoothly. Usually those 'ciplak' telephone surge protector, you can't even dial in your streamyx... hey, support Cal-Lab~~~!!!!

This post has been edited by J-Slade: Nov 18 2006, 12:39 PM

i jsut try to do my best after received ur money...

Reminder to others... the red words is not a correct recommendation...
Only SF9512DSL, SF9512DSL MS2+3, SF9812DSL or IT pack able to protect modem 99.9% safely... Lightning surge have the chances come from power line although rare to happen... Due to some situation, i sold him SP9201DSL only but he have to bear the risk that his modem and pc's power line is not protected...

i'm currently using a Belkin 75k amp lightning surge protector, i bought it due to my modem got struck by lightning twice in 1 week, before this, i had a belkin 6500 amps surge protector, which really did not work (my modem got destroyed even after using it).

i just wanna know how does Cal-lab surge protectors compare to the overpriced belkins? thinking of getting 1 cal-lab just to protect my ADSL modem. I dont kinda like trust belkin anymore, since the first one i bought didnt work at all. also i want to know how much current (amps) can the cal-lab ADSL modem surge protector handle.

and lets say my modem got destroyed even after hooking it up to the Cal-Lab surge protector, will i get a reimbursement for the damaged modem? my house gets struck by lightning on a very regular basis, i have even seen it struck right behind my bedroom window.

hi, thanks for ur reply...

is ur pc located near the window or which had grill? if really pls remove ur equipment away from there... the grill able to attract the ligthning surge and "jump" into ur indoor equipment, for the safety move ur equipment into ur inner part of ur house, avoid outer part like window, balcony or another side of the wall was outdoor which exposed to environment... if the wall get wet when raining, it still have possible tat the rain drop attract surge to the wet wall, and the surge will jump into house...

and the correct installation was important too... even u used the most expensive lightning protection, the result that we can know wat damaged equipments... even ur "Front Door" locked but not locked the "Back Door", "Burglar" still able to reach into ur house and steal ur stuffs...

example:
1. refer Post #170, protected tel line, but not protected power line...
2. using correct models for correct equipments, example only 1 set of ur PC and 1 router protected. but have other PCs connecting to the router too... if surge come from power line and strucked the "other PCs" and surge passed thru lan cable and struck router and ur PC

for belkin brands, i had not comments on it... from ur word seem like belkin product is "arrest" the lightning for 6500amps ... a normal equipment can handle up to 13amps only, but is hard to arrest 6500amps surge and caused the devices not effective enough if overloaded to arrest... but cal-lab product is design for isolate lightning, is different with arrestor, the amps that cal-lab can handle was:

Power line:
Isolation Level: 10/5A

Tel line:
Isolation level: 100mA / <500mA

Note: refer page 1 "CLLI Brochures / Catalogs", completed product specification located on the last page

For different equipment have different sensitivity and different version:

1. AV Version: lower signal speed, less sensitivity (auto reset after detected lightning)
Example: Telephone System

2. D Version: normal signal speed, normal sensitivity
Example: Fax Machine, Dial-Up Modem, 512kbps BroadBand

3. DSL Version: high signal speed, high sensitivity (self destruct easily)
Example: Up To 1mb BroadBand or even more, able to reach xxxmb after tested by well-known company

if u worry ur equipment will get struck too after used cal-lab, u can purcahse RM10 insurance yearly, but insurance for ur equipments not cal-lab... if u used the correct models and correct installation... u can claim RM5000 nett even just burnt a modem only after cal-lab assign engineer come to investigate, if they found out tat u done all the things with correct installation (and maybe the ur pc location as well, always stay inner part), and cal-lab fail to protect ur equipments...

but for sure with or without the insurance have the pros and cons... our insurance is outsourced to AIG company, we have a receipt/certificate for u... due tat cal-lab is effective products and had US patented, they working out with cal-lab to provide support to do claiming... but lets said our product not effective enough, sure wont have any insurance company will come to support us, otherwise plenty of cal-lab users which fail to protect equipment (not included those fraud cases) will do the claiming untill the company bankrupt... Cal-Lab have their own happy users, and I have my happy LYN users too (didnt receive any cases about the equipment damaged by lightning after used cal-lab with my proper consulation)...

if possible, pls draw up the completed diagram of ALL ur PC connectivity and ANY equipments connecting to each other... I will do recommendation for correct models and correct installations... if still doubt on me, pls make an appointment and meet with me / cal-lab inventor personally...

About the cal-lab warranty, we not like other ordinary products like have warranty 1yr, 3yrs or 5yrs... we have the unlimited "warranty" (according LLSWA) even u used cal-lab products for 10years, which means after 10years and it spoiled that time, you can do exchange too by bringing the damaged unit and paying Rm25 (for IT pack) to office, the office will exchange immediately on the spot for a working unit for u... but let say if u plug it by today, then tomorrow have very strong lightning strikes the cal-lab products till damaged, but you used for 1day or few hours only, that was not defect product, it is protected your equipment out from lightning strike, so for tat case we have to charge u RM25 to do exchange too even used 1 day... cal-lab products is used to protect your equipment, if cal-lab products failed to protect your equipment and u did the proper installation too, u have the right to do complain... ur feedback will be appreciated to do the re-improvement...

The Information Above Based On My Personal Experience / The Knowledge From Cal-Lab

This post has been edited by gkl83: Nov 20 2006, 12:00 AM

first off, thanks for the pm.

To answer your questions.

1. My PC and equipment (modem) are not that near to the window.
2. It was correctly installed, i'm an IT undergraduate, things like these are a piece of cake to set up (and obvious too).

The lightning strikes rarely go through the power lines, but the phone line is what caused my modem to be burnt (including the network card which is connected to the modem).

Recommend me a good set up specifically to protect my modem only, since its the most vulnerable piece of electrical equipment i have. (it got destroyed for a total of 4 times already). From the testimonials i see, the cal-lab seem to work, my pc is on and connected to the internet for close to 24/7 so i need good protection. I will consider to buy the lightning isolator from u, but no promises of course (since i just bought a RM170 Surge Protector a few days ago). Thanks.

This post has been edited by Xonius: Nov 19 2006, 11:12 PM

but for cal-lab, they not recommended to protect telephone line only if u intended to protect modem... today i just read a news tat a house got a direct lightning strike and caused most of the house equipment burnt... if u insisted to protect telephone line only, i will let u do so but u bear the risks urself, since u not accept my recommendation... sorry tat if offended u...



since u often get strike from telephone line, i suggest u SF9812DSL model, it have a SKPX module (same as a fuse)... if ur SKPX telephone module strucked by lightning, the cost of replacement exchange was only RM10 if only the SKPX dead... if unlucky tat lightning come from power line and the surge will struck SF9812DSL, it will cost u RM25 for replacement exchange... but RM25 saved ur PC equipments which may cost u a bomb to repair or exchange hardware, its a nice deal for u... FYI, u can get SF9812DSL + some extra units of SKPX module... once lightning strucked, u able to change the module by urself with the extra modules and continue the protection for 24/7

otherwise u can get MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF to protect power line and telephone line separately too...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Nov 19 2006, 11:42 PM

oh ya, i did not say i wanted to protect my telephone line only, what i want to protect is the whole modem, which means protection for both power line & telephone line so that my modem is completely safe.

cant concern with only protecting modem...maybe ur surge come from power line and struck ur PC, and the surge carry from mobo passing thru lan cable and strucked ur modem too... just like protected front door but not protecting back door...

but i would suggest SF9812DSL + spare SKPX module if u 24/7...
more cost effective to replacement exchange and change the SKPX by urself, so u can continue 24/7 with protection after strucked...

and all of ur PC equipment (1set PC and 1 unit modem only) power's source come from SF9812DSL by using the multisocket... i can assure that ur PC + modem 99.9% safe... if u still worry the surge will pass thru modem and strucked ur mobo, get SLAN1236 for lan cable... dont worry the broadband speed will reduced, i using SF9512DSL + SLAN1236, my BT able to reach 50kbps++ with my 512 streamyx

This post has been edited by gkl83: Nov 20 2006, 06:04 PM

my PC so far has never been damaged due to lightning strikes, only my modem and network card has.

anyway i'll think about it, if my overpriced belkin protector fails again i'll get one IT pack from u. So far lightning has striked my house twice after buying the belkin and my modem is still safe.

oh btw, i have this model which got burnt a year ago SFTV9822FC, it came with my astro.

This post has been edited by Xonius: Nov 21 2006, 02:01 AM

Its a nice product. Bought from a nice seller and hope nothing goes of to my TV /AV set. I have change 3 TV in less than 2 years because of lightning.

u means belkin dead but ur current modem safe?

ur dead SFTV9822FC, can do replacement exchange with me (if can COD) with RM25 only... then i will give u back the working 9822 for u... otherwise u can proceed to cal-lab office located at bandar utama to do replacement by urself...


thanks... pls update me if anything wrong on ur equipment and cal-lab devices

This post has been edited by gkl83: Nov 21 2006, 12:17 PM