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 Don't be cheated by Colleges like Taylor's, Taylor's

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post Mar 6 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(michaelting90 @ Jan 16 2013, 06:25 PM)
Guys, I am in a dilemma. Please spare some minutes to hear me out.

As some of you know, I started KYUEM just last week. I am taking triple science and maths. And I am starting to regret my decision of going to this so-called "prestigious" school.

First of all, the people here are assholes. They smoke and do drugs right out of my chalet. They turn the volume up on their music like everyone wants to listen to their music. And the seniors bully you so badly that I am emotionally hurt. Don't expect the warm welcome when you arrive here, instead, expect the worst kind of treatment possibly offered by your seniors. This include throwing pails of water at you, telling you to take off your pants to run taround the field in your underwear, and forcing you to do stupid things for their amusement. And you have to do it because it's part of the induction programme. I remembered that one senior asked me to kiss a girl in the dining hall if I wanted his signature (which is part of the programme). I want to live with dignity, to have directions and guidance from my seniors and I feel terribly disappointed.

2. Some of the teachers are ridiculously bad. My maths teacher failed to solve simple quadratic equations. And from what I heard from several "good" seniors, she is actually the best in the maths department. All my teachers are Malaysians, not even one of them are expatriates. The expats are "reserved" for the July intake. My chemistry teahcer is so unexperienced that she is not capable of explaining basic concepts. She is the kind of teacher who gives you a fish, instead of teaching you how to fish. For example, she gave me an equation and told me to memorise it, insteading of explaining how it works.  My English teacher is an Indian from UK. He has a major in Asian studies. He was a policeman before he became a teacher. He was caught once for suspected terrorist activities and he is banned from Israel. My physics teacher and biology teacher are good so far and I look forward to their lessons.

3. College life is a joke. What everyone does is study, study and more study. From my seniors, clubs rarely meet and when they do, they do usually almost nothing. Clubs are "compulsory" but in reality, nobody would check your progress in clubs.

Because of that, I have been deeply depressed. I thought this would be my kind of school, but it isn't. Because of that, I feel that I wasted 10000 dollars of my parent's money for this semester. I would be considering Sunway/ Taylor March/July intake.

Some advice for juniors who wish to follow my path. Do not go to KYUEM. The expats are the kind of teachers which can't get jobs in their homeland. There are no Chinese teachers at all. In fact, none of the staff is Chinese. The kind of people who choose this school (based on my conversation with my batchmates) are people who thought this school was good, just like me.  People who get into Cambridge from this school (requirement is A*AA) are no-lifes who study till 3am in the morning. In other words, they would have been able to do so somewhere else.

EDIT: Also, don't consider KTJ, it's purely for rich people. No people bothers with their education, except the few sponsored students. I have a friend who is already regretting his decision.
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Here's a tale of woe from someone who attended Kyuem
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post Mar 8 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Mar 7 2013, 06:07 PM)
Indeed, to be honest, i felt abit agitated when the dean of Sunway said we are the best college in Malaysia, with a Tier 5-6 rating... And whatmore, they mentioned that Sunway College is NOT a business.  doh.gif  i was like what the heck? Just because the entire Sunway Edu Group is being placed into a so called trust fund, does not mean it's no longer a profit-making entity.Hmm... in this case, i rather pay exorbitant fees to sned my future children to Cambridge Tutors College or Concord in future, rather than being downright cheated by these so called educators. And talking bout profit-making, i think HELP is doing much better at this with their edexcel programme. They live up to their name, and when you say people could have face the same problem as what i've mentioned in the thread ie. lecturer problem, at LEAST their fees are more affordable. Well, all i could say is that i've been blinded and fooled by mass marketing and powerful adverts. Yes, i do sound like a sour grape, but i'm only telling this out to give an idea of what it is for future prospective students. Period. notworthy.gif
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If that is the case, I think you have to reevaluate your buying power. Do you really think that you can have the same experience as you would in an English boarding school with just RM 40k in Malaysia? 40k sounds much more closer to a Proton than a BMW or a Ferrari. brows.gif

That's barely enough to cover the first semester fees in the UK! The closest you can get are KYUEM and KTJ. You must understand not every private college out there are catered to the elites. Sunway, Taylor's, INTI....they are all catered towards the upper quartile of the middle class. That aside, I do agree with everything you said, but you have to adjust your expectations. Here's a few facts for you to ponder:

1) Quite a number of not so smart, lazy kids have parents that can afford private colleges and are willing to pay for them.

2) Colleges are not responsible for providing food. The best they can do is build a cafeteria with all the cheap food there. But that might struck someone as being too high school-ish. whistling.gif

3) If they don't charge you for certain facilities, it is unfair to those who don't have any use for them in the first place. I bet those who take buses to college everyday will be unhappy that the parking fee is included in the college fees.

4) You can find bad apples anywhere, even in boarding colleges.

5) College are businesses, they do lots of marketing and advertising. They take in students when they can.

If you can't learn to accept this 5 facts, nowhere is good enough for you. Taylors and Sunway are not DOWNRIGHT CHEATING, it is that you misidentified your dream college and paid the wrong person with the wrong sum.

Being a TCSH student for about 2 months now, I couldn't really imagine that I would eventually end up in this place. For a moment I had my sights set on the cheap and cheerful TARC, the KDU within walking distance or even HELP but none of that happened. Then I got the chance to reduce my fees by almost half so I settled with TCSH. That probably explains why I am contented with TCSH even though it my experience here has been far from perfect. We may share a common situation too: we are both Taylor's students and we both have sucky physics lecturer(my worst so far).

They are also very keen in helping you to get into your desired university. Let's face it, good grades in A levels are common in these days (>30% ) so the real challenge lies in getting a good university (notice how I didn't say top) rather than acing the exam itself. Taylor's students are rich in money but poor in ambition and a sense of direction. Taylors help fill that gap. 2 months into college and they are now in the process of assigning us lecturers to help us think what should we do to get into our dream university. This isn't too helpful for me and probably not for you too; but students who couldn't even keep track of the A level program structure, let alone apply to a university would be very grateful for it.


QUOTE(cckkpr @ Mar 7 2013, 09:00 AM)
KYUEM has a lot of Indian lecturers, I believe. Generally, experienced Indian lecturers are quite good and dedicated to their profession.

Well, lecturers do move around quite often nowadays, due to the competitive environment and if the salary structure is not competitive enough, the quality of the programme will no doubt be affected.
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Surprise! Surprise! 3 out of 5 of my current lecturers are Indian. One of which is the best lecturer among the 6 while another is the worst among the 6. The other one is somewhere in between but good enough. TCSH seemed to have a disproportionately high number of Indians......and Koreans. blink.gif



 

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