hi
i'm a noob at ICE and i wanna know which one is better a

cheap sub ard RM200-300 including box =.=
or a 6x9 budget around 200

i've heard ppl saying that if u have a 6x9. u wouldnt need a sub already and vice versa.

i'm currently using sony's compenent and sony's 16cm rear speaker ( which kinda sucked) NO BASS AT ALL!. paired with a korean Rockabilly 4-chan amp which costed 700 + installation ( dunno got kena potong or not). now i'm planning to get a sub but if i get a sub does that mean i have to get another 1 chan amp to power that sub also?

my friend told me that 6x9 can also produce bass like sub i dunno if it's true or not. i',m not really a big fan of bass. but sometimes go club need to "show" abit la

so, all the sifu's here what should i get and what brand would u recomend me to get? ( within my budget)
thanks you

This post has been edited by Voonz: Apr 5 2006, 08:44 PM

if you wan to install a sub i would recommend you not to install 6x9... as a pair of 6x9 will produce same bass loudness like a 10" sub if both of them hav the same RMS wattage and on free air setup... but definately a sub can play lower frequency that a 6x9 cannot...

as for the amp... i would say you should audit it for yourself... sometimes you are jus wasting your money to buy a super powerful monoblock(1ch amp) but you dun use it to its fullest...

you can start with connecting your sub to your 4ch amp... if you are on budget... start like this and see whther your amp can take it or not... if cannot then you upgrade lo...

unless u r a bass or boombox freak sub 2 go then

otherwise 6x9 is good enuff

get those well known 6x9 as it beats most of the subs 2 hell

get a pegasus 10" sub+1.5cbf enclosure,that day i quoted rm300+.this is a new known brand that won IASCA champion last year.shud good enough for normal audience liao.

how on earth a 6x9 can beat a sub's bass ?

no way 6x9 can beat the sub's bass

almost the same can la... but beat it... no way la bro...

kelvin sin... they win the IASCA cuz their tuning was good... nothing to do with the brand... if you buy alpine and you dunno how to tune it then you are wasting your time and money only...

btw... i dun like pegasus sub they are jus way too boomy...

thanks for the replies dudes. i dun really care how good the brand is just want a cheap value for money sub or 6x9 =)
my xplod rear speaker's quality is not bad but when it comes to bass. it totally sucked. no thing comes out at all.

well then how much is a well-known good or avarage 6x9? if it's cheaper than the sub i'll gof or it or else i'll just get the pegasus kelvin recomemded me. can i just plug my sub into my HU? will the beat suck? cause i dun think my cheap 4 chan amp can whitstand it. anyways the amp is already connected to all my four speakers, if i connect my sub to it. does that mean i'll have to sacrifice i side of the speaker for the sub in put?

i mean in terms of sound not bass

a good simple setup is to connect your 4ch amp to a pair of front speaker and a sub.. those rear speaker powered by the HU is enough liao...

about installing a 6x9 or sub.. well tht one hav to see your own taste liao... but of cuz many will suggest a sub but if it doesnt suit you then you are wasting your money to buy one... so go out and audit the sound of 6x9 and subbies by yourself...

HU powering a sub can be done but you will barely hear the sub beating... and in a long run... you will actually spoilt your HU...

cheers...

thank you, i think i'll go for a sub =/
i went to an accesories shop and asked. they guy quoted me 450 for a mohawk sub and 480 for america sound. both 12 inchers with box. or should i look for pegasus that kelvin recomended? i dunno where to look for that brand. it's kinda hard to find one here

where's ur location?

450 for mohawk is way too expensive, as for AS..it's kinda expensive too
actually i am thinking to let go my Pioneer subbie (refer to my sig)
interested

too expensive arr.. box included wor, wiring also all included.
ur sub is ard 3-4 years old already oen right? no warranty and if anything happens i also dunno what to say. so i prefer a new sub or a new 2nd hand
sub. let's say if i get a good sub at 400. is there anyplace for me to get a cheap box? box doesnt affectt the bass right? it's just for show right?
++ wiring also need ard 100 T_T

mine used for less than or around 1.5 years (never abuse it as i am not a SPL fans, amp gain never set above 9 o'clock)
bought it new for competition last time

and i am letting go with the 1.5 cu ft box also
as it's custom made according to the specs
so if i change a new sub i need to built a new box according to the new sub spec..no point keeping the old box

FYI, box size/design is very important
a correct built box will give more accurate and lower bass
so i normally dun recommend ppl to get ready made boxes

but now the most important thing
u're just getting the sub only... wat about sub amp?

sub amp? i'm gonna pluck it into my 4 chan amp. no money to get a new one ~_~

btw i got this amp called rock-a-billy which the shop keeper claimed to be a korea amp. that thing costed me 700 including wiring and all. i wanna ask now is did i get chopped? i read from zth that the shop sells stuff at reasonable price thats why i went there. but now i feel like i got ripped off... 700 for an unbranded amp =.=

btw, which place in pj has woofer box designing shop?

This post has been edited by Voonz: Apr 7 2006, 09:13 PM

rock-a-billy?
never heard before ......
Megasound, auto deco did good job in build sub boxes

diferent box for different application... diferent size different size... different hole diameter and length different frequency too... that is wut sub box is about... so make sure you built one tht you wan... those factory box sold in the market... well they dun suit most of the sub in the market... cuz tht one is buta buta built one....

yesterday i went to eneos to try out their 6x9 speakers. but i was rather disspointed with the bass produced. i think i better get a woofer.
btw how much is the price for a good speaker board for WAJA. mine looks very weak and it trembles until produce it's own sound sometimes

since u insist to get a sub?
why do u bother to get a speaker board?

to reduce the trembling noise produced by the rear speakers. it's already trembling without a woofer imagine if there's a woofer ion the boot =.=