QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 18 2013, 10:06 AM)
Hey mate
I keep on REPEATING the answers to your questions and yet you seemed to ignore them?
I have answered your questions as far as I can remember.
So to insinuate I brushed them aside?
I answer them as described by scriptures. WHY should there be another view?
YOU are the one asking me to answer from a Christian perspective, remember?
There IS ONLY ONE ROAD......from a Christian perspective.......if you can accept that, than you are not seeing TRUTH.
TRUTH is not a thousand roads. TRUTH is ONE road and that road is JESUS.
you should know better.............
On yer different paths,
I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH ME- JESUS CHRIST
Let’s assume you have already repeatedly told me of the answer, jst that my brain couldn’t decipher what you said as information to broaden my mind. I guess to put it in religious term, my faith is not strong enough to be enlightened by you. Jst that somehow, what unknown warrior said below, is quite simple and clear. I guess understanding between us two, are not meant to be crossed.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 18 2013, 10:24 AM)
Erm, okay I'll try to answer though this is really not the place to discuss this.
You have to understand the history of what happened at the beginning up to the time of Jesus Christ.
When Jesus said, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand", you need to understand that prior to that, Man was given the liberty to try and reach salvation by good works, effort, obedience. (Self Effort) That's the part, where you said about doing charity and stuff like that. It's the same thing.
Where it's really about you and God is not involved.
That's why the 10 commandments says Thou Shall not....Thou Shall not....Thou Shall not.....
It's about thou (you) not God.
Man was given more than enough time to try on their own but all have failed. Why? Because if you break just 1 rule, it's as good as breaking them all.
Man being stubborn and hard head needed that much time to know, that we cannot. For thousands of years we have tried and none could reach prefect righteousness.
When God sent Jesus Christ saying "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand", He is saying, Do you now concede that you cannot?
Now you watch me make way for you.
The word repent there does not mean believe in me or go to Hell. No.
The word repent there means giving up all pretension to self righteousness.
That means, give it up, and admit we are morally bankrupt.
When you admit like this, God receives you openly and gives you the power to overcome all that you need to overcome.
In modern translation, repent means come to God in a new way of thinking.
Don't come to God thinking He's out there to punish you.

Because if it's true that God is out there to punish you, it will be redundant for God to send Jesus Christ to die on behalf of your sins.
He would have not sent.
Ok, what you said above made a lot of sense. At least clearer than what I get from prophetjul.
So let me reiterate lest I misunderstood.
God came up with the 10 commandments to prove to us human that we are flawed. That it is impossible to meet His standard of acceptance. And that if we are to concede and accept Him, He will receive us.
Bluntly put, He gave us a set of unachievable goals and see how long it would take us to admit to Him that we couldn’t achieve it?
Isnt that worst than trolling?
Like imagine if I have a son, and he’s not the brightest somehow. Yet I give him passing mark that I believe he couldn’t achieve. And being stubborn, he continue trying to prove me wrong. And if human could live to a thousand years, he would been proving it to me the next thousand years. Yet let’s assume that he failed till the end.
So what does that make him? And what does that make me?
Him – full of determination and never give up spirit.
Me – Everything a son despise of as a father.
So tell me, why would I so desperately need my son’s acknowledgement that he couldn’t achieve it? And why would my son wanted to prove me wrong so badly using this method?
And finally, why even this method of letting ego slip into each other’s head?
Is not there other way God could show us Love and Acceptance? Instead of to bow to Him? To accept and say, we couldn’t do what you commanded and are You happy now? We have failed miserably. Is this how You want to see? Is this what You want to see? You created us with enough flaw knowing that we couldn’t meet all 10 commandments and You jst wait for us to break?
Is this truly the one that we claim to be superior? A superior being that not only wanted to be acknowledged as a superior being, but accepted, embraced and along the way, degrade human beings further?