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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V4, Please read 1st post.

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aeiou228
post Mar 8 2013, 01:20 AM

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It doesnt make sense for HLB to charge rm20 closure fee for ac longer than 6 mths, because account holder would not want to close it to avoid the penalty and just leave a minimum rm1 balance in the ac until dormant. The bank will end up pile up a lot of dormant accounts which may consume it's system resources. After few years, HLB got to send reminders to ac holders before HLB close the ac for free. More work and more costly to the bank,
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post Mar 10 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 10 2013, 10:48 AM)
Well, if it is purely Hong Leong Bank, there is NO LIMIT for inter branch withdrawal. Now, is it possible to go to another HLB (non MACH) branch to withdraw cash?
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Fund in Money box account can only be transferred out via HL Connect or ATM cash withdrawal subject to the withdrawal limit. To withdraw from another non MACH HLB branch, you need to do online fund transfer from Money box account to a conventional CASA before withdrawing it at a non MACH branch.

Other info about MACH not mentioned in TnC:
1) Don't perform online MACH FD placement during non working days because the FD will only commence from the next working day. Keep the fund in your Sky High Money Box account to earn 1.8%pa first.
2) While placing MACH FD online, there will be no FD rate of your selected tenure displayed on the screen before your click the final confirm button. Therefore, better make sure that the quota for the promotional FD rates is still available before placement.


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post Mar 10 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 10 2013, 06:02 PM)
Then it probably makes sense to apply for another HLB savings account and have it linked to the Mach VISA debit card. But the ATM/debit card annual fee will only be charged once is it ?
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Yes, just open another HLB CASA and problem solved. Debit card annual fee charged once only.

QUOTE(edwardccg @ Mar 10 2013, 07:14 PM)
doh.gif  I missed out the inter branch withdrawal limit

if the amount placed on mach is over the limit, will need multiple banker cheque which will cost a lot (RM5.15 per cheque)  sad.gif
Thanks for the additional info  smile.gif

the withdrawal part will be a pain for me who don't have any conventional CASA with HLB. If amount over the inter branch limit, i will need to request multiple banker cheque on different day?
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just open a Casa and no more pain.
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post Mar 11 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Mar 11 2013, 10:52 AM)
Like i've mentioned, their RM1000 balance is very funny.

I withdrew RM3k from my FD deposit mid February, on the very same day i IBG transfer to other bank in form of 2k and 1k respectively. They charged me RM 1 x 2 transactions.

On 1/3/2013 - they refunded RM2 to my account.

My money box balance - less than RM100.
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Perhaps sometime in Feb, you have a one day overnight balance of RM30K or two days overnight balance of RM15k when you bank in your chq into Money Box account pending online FD placement ?
1 day overnight credit balance of RM30k is enough to meet the minimum Monthly Average Balance of RM1000 qualification requirement.
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post Mar 11 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Mar 11 2013, 11:40 AM)
Nop - i hand over banker cheque to the personnel and it was credit into my FD account directly. Which is why i had to withdraw to suit the exact amount i want in the FD.
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What is your total 28 days daily balances in Feb, divided by 28 ? if it is < 1k then it proven that some bugs in HLB's system and it's good for the customers.
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post Mar 12 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ntdote @ Mar 12 2013, 10:26 AM)
Operating hours for those Mach branches are from 10am-10pm daily.
Can the opening of this money box be done say 8pm at the branch? as it is out of the regular banking hours of 9-5. TQ
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You can place FD with your banker's chq in the evening but the commencement date (cut off time is 4PM) of the FD is next working day. If your FD placement is RM250K, then you rugi RM27.40 interest per day. If the placement is only RM10k, then not so much la.

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post Apr 6 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(gotham11 @ Apr 5 2013, 10:32 PM)
Hi Sifus out there.. not sure anyone think of this?
Instead of FD, I am thinking of offer my brother RM200K in his flexi housing loan, he continue to pay his installment, and by end of the year, he shall pay me 5% interest, not sure whether the interest that saved will be more than the 5% that I charged? to make this deal worthwhile to be win-win situation?
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Definitely not a win win case.
Your bro can't win because he has to pay you 5% which is more or less the term charges he has to pay for his housing loan.
You can't win either because for such high risk investment i.e. non collateral unsecured loan, 5% ROI is not worth the risk.

Better let the bank earn the 5% to prevent brothers becomes enemies in the event of default.
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post Apr 6 2013, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(gotham11 @ Apr 6 2013, 10:13 AM)
Thks for advise. Actually. Housing loan interest is different from fd rate. As the principal will reduce gradually and the intwrest portion is much hogher during the initial stage of loan. While I am only consider the flexi housing loan.. So collateral issue is not there as we are not settling the loan. We are nerely put in the lump sum to avoid the interest part and his monthly installment remain the sane which will enable him to settke the loan sooner. When I need the money I can also withdraw from this flexi loan acct.
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You must understand the concept of effective rate. At the glance, if your bro need to pay 5% p.a effective interest rate to you, he is not winning already. On the other hand, you put yourself in a high risk investment with only 5% ROI .
Compare to EPF backed MBSB 5 years FD of 4.75%, why risk your hard earn money and brothers relationship for 0.25% extra?
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post Apr 9 2013, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Apr 8 2013, 05:21 PM)
got my BRakyat interest...RM 873/month.. whistling.gif  now invest in another investment..
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You put all the eggs into one basket only ar ? Not risky meh?
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post Apr 9 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Apr 9 2013, 01:34 PM)
thats only my 10% of funds.. brows.gif
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Gee...!! you are filthy rich.
So what happen to the remaining 90% ? hmm.gif I only saw you talking about the 10% fund earning RM873/mth but never mention how much per month the balance 90% is earning.
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post Apr 9 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Apr 9 2013, 03:11 PM)
invest in biz...become shareholders...making money money money... whistling.gif
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It must be quite a big establishment since your share holdings alone already more than RM2 millions.
I guess your company's name must be very well known if you care to mention it. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(cucubud @ Apr 9 2013, 04:23 PM)
Why do you want a bank cheque if your intention is to deposit the money in again?
You should ask for cash.
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Bro, you need to read the entire OCBC bonus savers FD discussions in order to understand and answer icelc question. wink.gif

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OCBC required FRESH FUND, so its own banker's chq would not be regarded as fresh fund.
A 3rd party bank's chq is accepted as fresh fund by OCBC. You just need to GIRO/RENTAS the matured fund back to your 3rd party bank's current account.

You mustn't withdraw your money in the SS though, failing which, you wouldn't achieve the effective rate as you intended. Anyway, the effective rate for you second round of Bonus Saver FD placement will not be 3.9 any more because the ratio of fund in SS account @ 2.9% is higher in the second placement (because you can't withdraw the 1st placement). You probably getting 3.6% effective for your second round placement.

Last but not least, for 3.6%.....I think other banks got better offer.. whistling.gif OCBC is tricky.......but we are smarter. rclxms.gif

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post Apr 10 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Apr 9 2013, 03:11 PM)
invest in biz...become shareholders...making money money money... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(RO Player @ Apr 10 2013, 05:25 AM)
soon..in june..
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I thought you said invest in biz, making money money money ? How come June pulak ? Then the 90% balance rm2 million+ where you park ?

QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Apr 10 2013, 11:47 AM)
I still don't know why it's gonna be lesser than 3.9% icon_question.gif
But assuming so, then I guess for the first time deposit, just hantam a big amount into it and move on to other FDs after 3-4 months.
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Because when you want to renew for the second time, you can only withdraw the FD 4.5% account and not the SS 2.9% account. Then from the FD withdrawn amount, you need to allocate 1/3 to SS again. Thus the balance in 4.5% account is reducing and one the other hand the balance in 2.9% is increasing. The average effective rate should be 3.5x% if the additional monthly rm1000 deposit is taken into account.

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post Apr 12 2013, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Apr 12 2013, 02:28 PM)
I see less discussion on this thread lately. Is it cuz all money dah deposit into FD? laugh.gif
Anyway, just to share, I've FD-ed my money with OCBC's deal for now. I guess that means not much into looking at others at the time being, and not many new promos of late as far as I can see.

Btw, those who wants straightforward deposit can consider UOB since it's at 3.5% with no CASA.
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No MACH branch in your town ? 4% 12 months deposit straight forward online FD is better than OCBC Bonus saver with so many traps.
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post Apr 18 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 18 2013, 09:20 AM)
Log in to my MACH  account and found this notice

With effect from 02 May 2013, the Interbank GIRO (IBG) funds transfer fee will be reduced to RM0.10 per transaction.
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Well, I guess I opted for sky high savings rather than rebate on IBG when i opened my MACH account was a wise decision.

QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Apr 18 2013, 09:26 AM)
I guess wait after election may have new promo FD. Now so far i stick with Mach HL. Any below 4% not attract my interest at now...Had asked Mach HL whether got extention, but said not sure yet.
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Time to take a look at gold deposit investment.
The gold deposit is freaking hot at the moment, CIMB text me gold price is 2 years low now.
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post Apr 19 2013, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Apr 19 2013, 06:50 PM)
I just found out about this FD promo from HSBC.

Promotion Period: 1st April – 30th April 2013.
Minimum Deposit: RM100,000.00
Maximum Deposit: RM250,000.00
Rates offered:
1. First and Second Month: Prevailing Board Rate (refers to the board rate at time of placement)
2. Third Month: 7.88% p.a.
Effective Rate: 4.43% p.a.

Highlighted Terms and Conditions:
1. This promotion is for new HSBC Premier Customers and for Upgrade to HSBC Premier Customers who place or top up their existing Total Relationship Balance with / to a minimum amount of RM200,000.00 in deposits and/or investments at the point of the HSBC Premier Account opening and open an HSBC 3-month Time Deposit account with fresh funds on the same day. New HSBC Premier Customers are required to sign up for an HSBC Premier World MasterCard Credit Card.
2. The Eligible Customer must hold his / her HSBC Time Deposit placed within the Promotion Period until maturity to enjoy the Special HSBC Time Deposit interest rate. The eligible customer who uplifts the HSBC Time Deposit prematurely will not be entitled to enjoy the special HSBC Time Deposit interest rate and any interest previously paid under this promotion shall be deducted from the placement amount.

How to be an eligible HSBC Premier Customer:
1. Deposit and/or invest in Premier Savings, FlexiTime Deposits, Unit Trusts, Structured Investments, Dual Currency Investments, and Direct Retail Bonds with a Total Relationship Balance of RM200,000.00 or more.
2. An account fee of RM150 will be applied for the month should your average Total Relationship Balance drop below RM200,000.00. There won’t be any charges for an average Total Relationship Balance of RM200,000.00 and above.

What do you think of this? Appreciate any thoughts smile.gif
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I don't think the effective rate is 4.43%. Because only 50% of your TRB qualified for promo rate.

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post Apr 25 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(stanny @ Apr 25 2013, 02:06 PM)
How come for Mach by HL Fixed Deposit, I put 1 year deposit but for some reason every month it is giving me interest to my money box account?
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Because Mach 12 mths FD pays monthly interest.

QUOTE(razor21 @ Apr 25 2013, 02:22 PM)
Want to ask regarding fixed deposit dividend calculation ... Let say 3% interest in 1 month.. I put rm1000 for a month, is true after a month I get rm30 ,, how the dividend calculated??? .. Thank you
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Actually, you question is correct though. It is true that 3% interest in 1 month is indeed rm30 per month and if you place it for 1 year, the interest rate is approx 36%p.a. ( discounting the monthly compound interest.) However it is not possible to get 36%pa. fd rate in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(stanny @ Apr 25 2013, 06:18 PM)
That's pretty good. That means I can use these money to put in more FD means it's actually more than 4% for 12 months?
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Not much for small amount deposit. around 4.07% effective if compaund interest taken into consideration.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Apr 29 2013, 04:48 PM)
One question, my FD with UOB is maturing in June and will be placed under normal (current) board rate. Assuming that there will be a new promo that time, how can I beat the fresh-fund-only criteria? Any  tricks?  biggrin.gif
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Place a new FD using your 2nd banker's chq then RENTAS the matured FD money to cover your 2nd banker's account.

If sket bounce chq, do the RENTAS in the morning then give chq upon RENTAS clearance in the afternoon. If you have RM, sign siap siap and give everything to her and let her kautim.


QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Apr 29 2013, 04:52 PM)
full withdrawal in cash, then take another number to queue up for new FD... no?
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No.

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post Apr 29 2013, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Apr 29 2013, 06:52 PM)
Mind elaborating this? Sorry I am quite new in FD... I thought fresh funds = funds not deposited in the same bank?

So upon FD maturity if I cash out and put it back into the same bank as new FD application won't that be considered as fresh funds?
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First no is because banks don't allow cash contra (No actual cash change hand at the counter) as fresh fund.
2nd big big no is because if you are withdrawing cash, you expose yourself into unnecessary risks. you don't want to count substantial amount of cash at the bank counter, holding cash in the banking hall waiting for queue no, sweat.gif FD usually not a small amount.
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QUOTE(kailc @ Apr 30 2013, 10:49 AM)
This is my experience with RHB, I told the cashier I want to move all my FD amount to other bank, she told me to stay and will gao tim the fresh fund issue for me. She uplift my FD in counter 1, I pump in another 10K cash + FD amount in counter 2. That's it, get to enjoy the 3.88% promotion again. Basically u just need to give her ur FD cert and cash, they will settle for you.
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I believe some bank staffs do help the customers to go around the fresh fund policy when they are behind deposit target. Actually, fresh fund or not it is entirely up to the discretion of the bank. Sometimes you can get around it but sometimes the staff just can't help but to adhere to the bank's policy. Different banks, different branches but same bank, different staffs, different attitudes. Therefore not all banks can treat contra cash + top up as fresh fund.
Btw, small town banks usually can kautim probably due to close relationship with the customers or competition for limited deposit source.

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