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 Working in Singapore V13, COE $61,029

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post Mar 28 2013, 08:21 PM

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i jump from shipyard to another higher risk job. awesome
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post Apr 18 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 18 2013, 11:24 AM)
If your head too small for a big hat then buy a smaller hat lor.

I'll admit that buying any property in SG is difficult for us newcomers cos of the 20% downpayment and ~8% stamp duty. So that 600k private condo you need $170+k cash which is a dilemma I'm facing as well. HDB even worse thanks to COV.

However buying in KL can be very easy - the other day I was looking at a condo in Seri Kembangan that u only need rm1,000 downpayment thanks to a 10% "developer discount." (Incidentally I'm not convinced that SK area has strong enough fundamentals to buy, but that's besides the point). Anyways your 700k house in KL needs rm70k downpayment i.e. sgd29k ... save up for a year, swipe all your major expenses to a 0% installment plan, then buy lor tongue.gif
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bro, stamp duty for foreigners are 18% sad.gif

last time i check, need to pay 48% in cash for private house. Imagine buying $680k one room unit (TOP 2017 lol), need to pay $326k upfront rclxub.gif
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post Apr 18 2013, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ Apr 18 2013, 01:28 PM)
holy crab ...that's a huge amonunt man

just as big amount as purchasing a car
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Booking fee: 5%
Sale & Purchase agreement: 15%
Stamp Duty: 18% (pay to gohmen, on top of property value)
Foundation: 10%

All these need to pay upfront within months of signing sweat.gif
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post Apr 23 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 23 2013, 10:53 AM)
My take for freshies... spend a bit more and get a master bedroom with attached toilet. Then work hard, work smart... get promotions as quick as possible and invest to kick off the passive income stream... to move on to bigger and better things in 3-5 years time and so on. If you plan for your entire stay in SG to be renting room (kowtow to landlord/main tenant), running after buses and trains, eat economy rice,... because your salary stays more or less where it is now - then it's like the life of a foreign labourer. What's the point of living?
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what would you advise for the bolded part?

i have been working in SG for almost 2.5 years now, not a PR yet and my intention is to settle down but due to various hurdle by gohmen here, it's really PITA to own house.
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post Apr 23 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 23 2013, 01:25 PM)
When you're just starting out,.. save. Save as much as you can. From the day I started working, my savings rate has never fallen below 60% of GROSS salary annually.

Saving is second in importance only to Salary. Make sure your salary is as high as possible, as early in your career as possible.

Once you have a decent amount, or have a salary that allows you to save a decent amount each month - invest. I'm a very unsophisticated investor. FDs, shares and only recently, property. That's it. I have no fancy investments.

And I have no fancy investment strategy. I have no time or energy to monitor and analyse. I invest and forget... so I just invest in shares in sectors I naturally understand well ie. 嫖賭飲吹. I basically bought one lot of Genting, BToto, Guinness, Carlsberg, BAT, JT every month or so (sublots for BAT) and increased the number of shares as salary got higher. All of them pay a high dividend, and have cash rich, unchanging/addictive long term demand, low fluctuation, low risk business models. Don't have to monitor , just collect the dividend cheques. Later on, I added on telcos as a sector because it has very much the same dynamics and I happen to be very interested in this field.

After 10-15 years, you'll be surprised how many shares you have accumulated and how much dividend you get regularly.

But don't put all your cash into shares. I'm naturally risk averse, so I built my FD balance to even off the risk. Now, I'm gradually converting some of that FD/cash into property.

Now... you can actually go into property early, instead of or on top of FDs and shares. If I had more knowledge or interest in the property market when I was younger... I would have bought property as well. I'd actually be earning more than I am now in terms of ROI (Return on Investment)... but the risk is that it is absolutely critical to choose the right property (in the beginning... you have only 1, very big, very costly bullet. And in property, there is no effective cut loss).
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Thanks for the advise. I normally save 80% or more of my salary but whenever I spend, doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif . In term of salary, currently I would say I'm slightly overpaid considering my role/age.

In term of investment, I only invested small amount in MT and FD so far and both in Msia to get a grip of it. Looking into property now but most places seem overvalued now. SG, JB and back in Sarawak, property value keep increasing in paper value but resale value uncertain. Might look into bluechip investment for dividend.

But key point is still how much we can save, not how much we can earn sweat.gif
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post Apr 23 2013, 08:29 PM

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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

my basic nowhere 10k/month la
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post Apr 23 2013, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Apr 23 2013, 08:47 PM)
of coz 20k/month is no where near 10k/month. that is double.
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20k is my manager's salary biggrin.gif
my Pm is around >50k
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post Apr 25 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Apr 25 2013, 02:38 PM)
No. That's the only 3
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and all owned by Temasek laugh.gif
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post May 2 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ May 2 2013, 11:49 AM)
I don't think I can re-apply for my current jobs if I don't have a PhD with relevant experience. Too many PhD looking for jobs out there.
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true story bro

7 of my colleagues are PhD (one of them senior lecturer) doh.gif
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post May 2 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ May 2 2013, 11:57 AM)
So 6 out of 7 PhD are just normal lecturer, the lowest academic role. Wonder what can a degree holder apply? You in education line?

If it is NUS, you need good post doc to start with.
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nope, construction background lol
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post May 7 2013, 09:56 AM

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hi guys,

i'm not familiar with oz to be honest but if there's prospect to move to oz with slightly better package, will you go?

i'm comparing dollar per dollar as the conversion rate around 1.23:1 and tax rate in oz around 20-25% for the package. So equal out, package value about the same in sgd.

from what I heard from my friends working in oz, rental and expenses are much more expensive.

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post May 7 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ May 7 2013, 10:49 AM)
My 6 months attachment in Melbourne and 3 months training in Sydney there:-
1. Your tax rate is about there depends on the pay scale. The lower or mid range will be almost same. Highest rate will be around 30% and 45% after one figure.
2. Rental is cheaper. House is a lot cheaper. 300k AUD can get a landed one storey unit with car porch.
3. Car is cheaper. Maintenance is similar.
4. Food is a lot more  expensive. Buy a house and cook on your own will be similar to SG. Eat outside everyday you pay the price later when you are old.
5. Anything that is imported are more expensive due to the tax.
6. PR is very hard to maintain if you don't stay there.

Good thing:-
1. If you got PR, no need worry about after you retire or jobless. Unlike SG you have to depend on the saving/CPF that is limited.
2. Life there is good, really good. 5 pm sure off work, my direct boss chase me out of office at 445 pm, happy hour till 6 then go home and cook. A lot of places to visit compared to SG.
3. The food there are fresh.
4. The house is really a house, no grills like ours. Malaysia's house is a prison... to lock ourselves inside. SG is also picking up to be a prison soon.

But I won't go there because its very far from home, you cannot go back home once a week or even once a month. Unless they all migrate to Aust. Hidup! thumbup.gif
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I just checked at their website, based on the pay range, tax is around 35% doh.gif So it's much lower than take home pay in SG, dollar per dollar.

Housing I just checked with one of my friend there, quite expensive too, area around Perth, Melbourne and Sydney. And yeah, car will be a necessity then due to houses far away from CBD. Food cost wise, already expected as they're "famous" for that. Good thing is that part-time foreigners working there can earn a bit to sustain their education. Anything related to service is highly compensated there.

#4 good point is the main reason why I considering there. At least a proper landed house, no need to worry much about security (depends on community too). I work in Sg but only go back home (one of the BN's fort) twice a year due to flight issues.

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