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 Fundsupermart.com v2, Learn about DIY unit trust investing

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SUSPink Spider
post Feb 28 2013, 11:01 PM, updated 13y ago

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Fundsupermart.com (FSM) Malaysia is the online unit trust distribution arm of iFAST Capital Sdn Bhd ("iFAST Capital"). iFAST Capital is a subsidiary of iFAST-OSK Sdn Bhd. iFAST-OSK Sdn Bhd is an investment holding company and is a joint venture between Malaysia's OSK Investment Bank Berhad and iFAST Corporation Pte Ltd ("iFAST Corp").

iFAST Capital is a holder of a Capital Markets Services Licence (CMSL) and is licensed by the Securities Commission to conduct the following regulated activities:

- To deal in unit trusts
- To offer investment advisory services

iFAST Capital is also registered with the Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia (FiMM) as an Institutional Unit Trust Adviser (IUTA).



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1. Wide range of information
2. Extensive product range and value-added services
3. One of the cheapest Sales Charges in town! thumbup.gif


To keep discussions at this thread fruitful and constructive, it would be greatly appreciated that fellow investors try to look for answer to their queries at Frequently Asked Questions before posting here. icon_rolleyes.gif

Other FAQs on Fundsupermart.com and unit trusts in general

1. NAV pricing and processing time
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2. The NAV price of the fund that I'm interested in is quite high now, should I stay away? Investment gurus always say "buy low, sell high"...
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3. Common misconceptions about unit trust dividends/distributions:

(i) After dividend distribution, NAV price will go down, the fund will become cheaper.
(ii) A fund that declares dividends is better than a fund that does not, dividends are my profit, they make me richer.

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(iii) Topping up my holdings after dividend distribution pulls down my cost per unit, lower cost = higher profit.
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(iv) Distribution = Income
QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 25 2013, 10:51 PM)
Ok so after dividend distribution, you get some additional units and NAV drops. Then after few weeks if fund perform well then NAV increases to the point where it is back to the NAV before distribution. Doesnt it mean you gain some income from distribution?
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 25 2013, 11:19 PM)
Then what's the point of dividend distribution since units and NAV price has negative correlation?
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4. Annual Management Charge, Trustee Fee and NAV pricing
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Link to v1

Happy investing! rclxms.gif

Disclaimer -
I am not a UT agent, nor am I employed by FSM. All my comments here are posted in good faith and with the intention to share knowledge. I am not to be held liable for any losses that may be incurred as a result of following any advice/opinion shared here. I believe the same should be applicable for any other LYN members posting here.
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post Mar 1 2013, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 1 2013, 07:52 AM)
Awesome, nice thread! I'm slower than Pink Spider to be the TS!
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Dave, u already taken PM TS, it would be conflict of interests if u take FSM TS too laugh.gif

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post Mar 1 2013, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 1 2013, 08:06 AM)
Yesterday LYN has some problem. It frustrated me to stay online.
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Yeah, u dunno how many times I had to refresh and refresh and refresh shakehead.gif
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post Mar 1 2013, 09:32 AM

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Bought my 1st share this week, and did my summary of investments as at 28-Feb last nite...IRR for my share investment, 1400%! laugh.gif

Today is the last day to use the FSM 0.88% angpow, who has utilised it? Uncle aronteh?

Interim Financial Statements (31-Dec-2012) for Hwang AQ is out:
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...ortsMYHWAQF.pdf

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Mar 1 2013, 09:34 AM
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post Mar 1 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 1 2013, 10:34 AM)
I use it yesterday... hahaha
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u weren't there for the Lou Sang dinner...how u got 0.88% angpow? U mean 1% SC promo izit? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 1 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 1 2013, 10:42 AM)
I was there, just low profile.. hehe

during cny till last week was quite busy, so didnt reply or use LYN...
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U sitting at which table? hmm.gif
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post Mar 1 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 1 2013, 10:46 AM)
Hwang table...
FSM will be bring in Hwang Aiiman Select Income soon... do you guys thing it can match the award winning select income?
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I was facing that table whole nite, that table all men.

Got a handsome quite fair-looking guy who was there early, back against the wall, he's HwangIM people? unsure.gif

Actually I think we can quite easily replicate the performance of Select Income ourselves, just maintain a conservative portfolio of 70/30 yourself, on the equity portion overweighting dividend-focused funds.
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post Mar 1 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 1 2013, 10:57 AM)
Ya.. table all men. FSM GM was that table as well, he was quite talkative surprisingly and friendly. He mentioned, near future they will have promotions for China funds, so those who want to go into China, can use this opportunity. But dont know when will the promotion comes la.

The Lipper promotion he also mentioned during the dinner. He said then the Lipper results is out, they will have promotion. That is true enough, but the duration of promotion too short la..

No, that handsome guy not from Hwang, but the guy sitting next to him was from Hwang.

I know your table got a kid from AMB. Maybe I saw u, but I dont know which is you.
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Next to the little kid lo blush.gif
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post Mar 1 2013, 11:21 AM

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Select Income thrives on dividend stocks. Most dividend play stocks are non-halal (think conventional banks, tobacco firms, breweries, gaming stocks), how they gonna get the dividend equities for the Aiiman equivalent? hmm.gif

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post Mar 1 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 1 2013, 11:21 AM)
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3201

Wow... Just bought yesterday, today is CIS choice fund. I need to buy toto la today!
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Who needs Hwang Select Income Fund when u have this fund? Just combo 30% CIMB APDIF and 70% Hwang Select Bond Fund, and you'll have your own DIY Select Income Fund thumbup.gif
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post Mar 1 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 1 2013, 01:22 PM)
Damn ... missed CIMB APDIF!
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"Missed" in what sense?

Fund Name | 1 MONTH Rank
Hwang Asia Quantum Fund 1
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund 2
OSK-UOB Big Cap China Enterprise Fund 3
Kenanga Growth Fund 4
AmAsia Pacific REITs 5

Investors are warming up to FSM's recommendation to go overweight Asia Ex-Japan, those days it's Kenanga Growth Fund at No. 1 all the time biggrin.gif

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post Mar 1 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(mlyuki @ Mar 1 2013, 02:24 PM)
Hi all, here's the worksheet shared by Pink Spider. I've attached it as winzip on behalf.
Enjoy and thanks Pink!   rclxms.gif
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Thanks! Hope no one will bombard my inbox anymore sweat.gif

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post Mar 1 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Nine9 @ Mar 1 2013, 07:41 PM)
finally my account was approved  rclxms.gif

guys,
do the amount I need to pay to buy UT is:

unit x price per unit + 1% sales charge
e.g:
2000 unit x 0.26 + 1% = RM525.20    <<<< this correct?
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Depends on your preference...

(a) pay a round sum
e.g. PAY RM100, hence RM100 / 1.01 / RM0.26 = 380.81 units bought

(b) invest a round sum
e.g. BUY RM100 WORTH, hence RM100 x 1.01 = RM101 to buy RM100 / RM0.26 = 384.62 units

For me I personally prefer (b), though sometimes I do (a) as well. tongue.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Mar 2 2013, 12:06 AM)
FSM only GEM bond. Not planning to buy any equity funds - would prefer to buy stock instead, not blaming the performance, but just consider a few limitations that fund managers might face when handling huge fund. So I'm getting rid of equity funds that i bought previously.
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Can share why u feel so?

Local equities we can buy ourselves easily, but how about foreign equities? It's quite difficult for retail investors to have a well-diversified portfolio of global equities.
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post Mar 2 2013, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 2 2013, 03:31 PM)
Sien.. FSM website under maintenance.
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It's Saturday, go get a life! laugh.gif

P.S. I'm watching old movies on Youtube blush.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Mar 2 2013, 05:21 PM)
One example would be during downturn, when when too many ppl cash out equities UT, fund manager would have no choice but to sell fundamentally good stock to keep the cash sufficient, which might not be what we want as an investor.
My long term counter (PBBANK) cagr was ~ 24% the last time I keep track, 2001 - 2010 ( no longer keep track these days...just buy & keep whenever extra fund avail). Also holding small portion of MAYBANK, CAGR exceed 20% the last time I checked.
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Buy and hold all the way?

Seems like what my big boss taught me is true, just buy stocks of quality companies with decent dividend yield, buy and hold even when the price drops so long as its fundamentals and business prospects are intact. hmm.gif

But still, retail investors like most of us only have access to KLSE stocks, hard to gain exposure to overseas stocks like US and HK stocks. And bear in mind, Malaysian stocks have been fairly resilient in recent times, but how long can it continue to be so?
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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Mar 2 2013, 06:18 PM)
I'd stay invested as long as the company is resilient, its growing, its making profit. BTW dividend is not my first priority, its just one of the factors to be considered when choosing stocks.
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bro, u still haven't answered my question doh.gif

So, u are comfortable having your equity investments only in Malaysian stocks?
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post Mar 2 2013, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Mar 2 2013, 07:36 PM)
Answer is yes, banks in malaysia are too big to fail. Ppl would lose jobs first before banks fail.
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We have Dividend Warrior who are focused on Singapore REITs and (a bit of) Telcos, and now we have u who are focused on Malaysian banks notworthy.gif

I guess it's my accountancy education background, I'm just not comfortable to be too focused in one or two areas of investment. I guess that's why I won't make it big yet won't go bust laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Mar 2 2013, 08:45 PM)
Quality company in decent dividend yield...can be define such as...
Finance/banking: Maybank/ Public bank
Oil & Gas: Petronas, Petrol chem
Telco: Digi, Telekom and Maxis
Consumer: Nestle & Dutch Lady
Alchohol: GAB & Clasberg
Tobacco: BAT
Utility: TNB
Gambilng: Genting & B.toto..

What else ? Need some advise as in cash rich position to buy in some good in when GE discount..
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Share with u guys what I bought this week...

Hup Seng (maker of Ping Pong cream crackers) yielding 7%+
APM (maker of car suspension parts) yielding 4%+ with some growth prospects, on fire sale this week

Both are rather "mid-tier" stocks that many would overlook. Next I'm going for some big names like Dutch Lady, BAT and GAB/Carlsberg, but not at current valuations. Aiming for a 5-counter stock portfolio to start with, and gonna monitor from there see my UT portfolio perform better or my mini stock portfolio perform better over a 3-year timeframe. For the time being it's gonna be 25% stocks 75% UT.
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 4 2013, 10:49 AM)
Ya.. maybe lepak at Money Market also. But the switching cost will eat my profits due to my investment is still ikan bilis.
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Kaka u heavily exposed to Malaysian equities? For me, it's only 12% of the equity portion of my portfolio, so it's effectively 12% x 31% = 3.72% of my entire portfolio, so I won't bother to switch out laugh.gif

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