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hanishoney
post May 17 2016, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ May 16 2016, 09:19 PM)
No wonder i cannot find Diono anywhere in Malaysia and Singapore.

By the way, does anyone of you use a rear baby mirror in the car?
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I used one with my firstborn when he was a baby, but I didn't bother with my second child. I find that I prefer to focus on the road when I'm driving and stop frequently to check my baby when I'm driving alone, and if I'm not the one driving, I just use my handphone selfie camera to take pictures of my baby to check.
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post May 20 2016, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Qistina Ali Azizan @ May 20 2016, 11:17 AM)
heyy.. based on my experience, you can check out other brands like sparco. Im currently using one, sparco f500k. It has all the safety features i want n it is compatible with all type of cars. so its easy and to me its still in the affordable range considering its features n durability n all. but if you’re under a certain budget maybe u can check out carseat brand aldo. the pricing range are mostly below rm400. so okay la. why not check it out at Shopee? u can nego the price in shopee and diaorang ade free shipping.. u boleh make an offer ngan seller terus and u boleh live chat with the seller.. https://goo.gl/vnSTkC  smile.gif
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From what I see with Sparco, often the angle is not good for newborn babies when rear-facing in some cars. Because of the seat of the car itself, Sparco can be too upright and not allow the 45 degree angle necessary to allow newborn babies to breathe safely. Always try installing Sparco in your car before you buy it, if you're going to buy it for a newborn, to make sure you can get the 45 degree angle.
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post May 20 2016, 05:34 PM

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Using this combi seat... very nice no complaints...

But problem is all COMBI seats doesnt come with ISOFIX, so its kinda a hassle to move around different cars...

End up buying another seat so can have one in each car..

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post May 20 2016, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Qistina Ali Azizan @ May 20 2016, 05:30 PM)
That's a good point! With the Sparco we bought, we can actually tilt the seat back 45 degrees. biggrin.gif
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It's not the seat that has to be 45 degrees, yah, but the baby inside the seat!


Again, I'd like to remind everyone that different carseats suit different cars, so please please please mention what car(s) you have installed your carseat in, and position of the carseat (behind front passenger, behind driver, center back seat).
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post May 25 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(hanishoney @ May 17 2016, 02:55 PM)
I used one with my firstborn when he was a baby, but I didn't bother with my second child. I find that I prefer to focus on the road when I'm driving and stop frequently to check my baby when I'm driving alone, and if I'm not the one driving, I just use my handphone selfie camera to take pictures of my baby to check.
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Thanks for your reply.

I just bought a Diono radian r120 from US Ebay for S$400+. Quite satisfied with the car seat so i bought another one from US Ebay again. Even though I have yet to installed it in my car due to i haven't bring back to Malaysia but i believe it shouldn't be an issue.

Car info: Honda City 2015 with 3 lap-shoulder seat belts (ELR) at the rear

My plan:
1) Diono Radian r120 for 2.5 year old daughter
- install behind the passenger seat and rear facing
- use car seat belts instead of latch to save width space
- use locking clip due to ELR car seat belts
- use Diono Angle Adjuster to have more leg room for front seats
- secure top tether at the bottom of the front seat tracks using their connector strap

2) Diono Radian r120 for 7 months daughter
- install in the middle rear seats and rear facing
- use car seat belts instead of latch to save width space
- use locking clip due to ELR car seat belts
- secure top tether at the bottom of the front seat tracks using their connector strap

The main reason i bought Diono radian car seats is due to the narrow width. Normally my rear seat is always occupied with an adult therefore i couldnt fit the 2nd child car seat hence my 7 month daughter was always carried by hand. I understand the high risk but too bad my wife and in-laws think it is a hassle.

After buying this, i hope my wife or my in-laws have no excuse of not letting my young daughter sitting child car seat.

This post has been edited by lil_flank: May 26 2016, 10:03 AM
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post Jul 7 2016, 09:18 PM

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hello al, im looking for a new ISOFIX child seat

currently my LO is 5mth old and coming to 6 month (7.1kg),

my preferences for car seat

1. ability to switch between front + rear facing
2. ISOFIX is a must
3. budget 500-800
4. prefer to have washable covers.. (well you know milk spills, vomits..)
5. this seat to last till he is 3 years old?

car that we'll use for this seat

2015 Honda Jazz 1.5
2016 Mazda 3 Skyactiv

i tried to flow the thread for recommendation, but honestly too much brands and models make me even more confused.

appreciate your kind advice...

hanishoney
post Jul 8 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Monkey King @ Jul 7 2016, 09:18 PM)
hello al, im looking for a new ISOFIX child seat

currently my LO is 5mth old and coming to 6 month (7.1kg),

my preferences for car seat

1. ability to switch between front + rear facing
2. ISOFIX is a must
3. budget 500-800
4. prefer to have washable covers.. (well you know milk spills, vomits..)
5. this seat to last till he is 3 years old?

car that we'll use for this seat

2015 Honda Jazz 1.5
2016 Mazda 3 Skyactiv

i tried to flow the thread for recommendation, but honestly too much brands and models make me even more confused.

appreciate your kind advice...
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For the budget you provide, the only ISOFIX carseats available will only allow use of the ISOFIX for front facing. You'd have to still use the seatbelt for rear facing. Examples are Koopers Salsa and Santa Barbara ISOFIX carseat, which also rear face only to 13kg.

If I'm not mistaken, the cheapest rear-facing ISOFIX carseat is Koopers Jive, which rear faces only to 13kg too, but is RM879 at littlewhiz.com. I'm also unsure of its suitability to your vehicles. Do check directly with the shop/distributor. ISOFIX tends to be rigid in whether it suits your car or it doesn't. There is no adjustability with ISOFIX.

If your budget cannot stretch past RM800, you may want to look at LATCH, instead of ISOFIX. LATCH is the USA version. It's cheaper than ISOFIX because it's essentially a belt (made of the same material as a car's seatbelt) provided with the carseat that you then connect to your car's ISOFIX points. LATCH carseats that can be within your budget on lazada and are carseat technician recommended include Cosco Scenera Next, Cosco Apt 50 and Evenflo SureRide. Lazada prices change every day though, so the prices can go beyond your budget and different sellers price differently too. These carseats all rear-face beyond 13kg (rear-facing is SAFEST; therefore rear face as long as possible), and suits most cars with ISOFIX attachments, but LATCH can be harder to install than ISOFIX, yet because of the adjustability of belts, they are more flexible to suit more cars than ISOFIX. Buying online via lazada does mean that you can't be sure what manufacturing dates you get, and that could mean shorter lifespan of carseats (because USA carseats have fixed expiry dates).


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post Jul 10 2016, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jul 8 2016, 05:06 PM)
For the budget you provide, the only ISOFIX carseats available will only allow use of the ISOFIX for front facing. You'd have to still use the seatbelt for rear facing. Examples are Koopers Salsa and Santa Barbara ISOFIX carseat, which also rear face only to 13kg.

If I'm not mistaken, the cheapest rear-facing ISOFIX carseat is Koopers Jive, which rear faces only to 13kg too, but is RM879 at littlewhiz.com. I'm also unsure of its suitability to your vehicles. Do check directly with the shop/distributor. ISOFIX tends to be rigid in whether it suits your car or it doesn't. There is no adjustability with ISOFIX.

If your budget cannot stretch past RM800, you may want to look at LATCH, instead of ISOFIX. LATCH is the USA version. It's cheaper than ISOFIX because it's essentially a belt (made of the same material as a car's seatbelt) provided with the carseat that you then connect to your car's ISOFIX points. LATCH carseats that can be within your budget on lazada and are carseat technician recommended include Cosco Scenera Next, Cosco Apt 50 and Evenflo SureRide. Lazada prices change every day though, so the prices can go beyond your budget and different sellers price differently too. These carseats all rear-face beyond 13kg (rear-facing is SAFEST; therefore rear face as long as possible), and suits most cars with ISOFIX attachments, but LATCH can be harder to install than ISOFIX, yet because of the adjustability of belts, they are more flexible to suit more cars than ISOFIX. Buying online via lazada does mean that you can't be sure what manufacturing dates you get, and that could mean shorter lifespan of carseats (because USA carseats have fixed expiry dates).
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hi, just went to setia alam babywhiz outlet today and purchased Koopers Jive,

did a comparison between Koopers Mambo and Jive as both are ISOFIX and identical pricing

Koopers Mambo seems to have more paddings and well securing the LO, but somehow it looks discomfort and potentially have ventilation issue.

so in the end we just bought Koopers Jive and the staff fixed to our car, no issue for this seat on Honda Jazz.

again..thanks for the kind recomodation thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jul 10 2016, 09:59 PM

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Need sifu help,

I bought graco extend2fit version and installed it for my newborn baby. Problem is my auntie command that the recline level still not enough for newborn baby. It suggest to be flat for newborn baby but this car seat support 0-6years above.

How? Urgent as my wife going to deliver this week according to doctor.

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post Jul 11 2016, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(splinter @ Jul 10 2016, 09:59 PM)
Need sifu help,

I bought graco extend2fit version and installed it for my newborn baby. Problem is my auntie command that the recline level still not enough for newborn baby. It suggest to be flat for newborn baby but this car seat support 0-6years above.

How? Urgent as my wife going to deliver this week according to doctor.

Thanks
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Babies should NOT be left in the carseat for longer than 90 minutes each time, BECAUSE the carseat is not lying flat. Babies should lie flat most of the time. However, lying flat in the car is NOT safe if there is a car accident, because the 45 degree angle as per your carseat's indicator, protects your baby's entire spine in a car accident, like a rocking "cradle when the bough breaks" in the song rockabye baby song.

So just tell your auntie that baby will most often be in his crib/floor/cot lying flat at home, not in the car. BUT this angle is necessary in the car. If you have to drive for more than 90 minutes with your baby, break the journey up so that baby gets out of the carseat for half an hour or so every 90 minutes.

Once your baby has head control, you can extend his/her time in the carseat to two to four hours, but every two-four hours, still need to let out to stretch and move about. In fact, adults should also get up/out and stretch/walk around every two/three hours to extend lifespan.

More info: http://www.babycentre.co.uk/x554834/is-it-...in-his-car-seat

You can also tell your auntie that baby must NOT be fed lying flat. Babies also need the 45 degree angle for feeding to make sure that if they vomit (reflux is very normal for babies), they don't accidentally swallow back their vomit and choke.
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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jul 11 2016, 04:44 PM)
Babies should NOT be left in the carseat for longer than 90 minutes each time, BECAUSE the carseat is not lying flat. Babies should lie flat most of the time. However, lying flat in the car is NOT safe if there is a car accident, because the 45 degree angle as per your carseat's indicator, protects your baby's entire spine in a car accident, like a rocking "cradle when the bough breaks" in the song rockabye baby song.

So just tell your auntie that baby will most often be in his crib/floor/cot lying flat at home, not in the car. BUT this angle is necessary in the car. If you have to drive for more than 90 minutes with your baby, break the journey up so that baby gets out of the carseat for half an hour or so every 90 minutes.

Once your baby has head control, you can extend his/her time in the carseat to two to four hours, but every two-four hours, still need to let out to stretch and move about. In fact, adults should also get up/out and stretch/walk around every two/three hours to extend lifespan.

More info: http://www.babycentre.co.uk/x554834/is-it-...in-his-car-seat

You can also tell your auntie that baby must NOT be fed lying flat. Babies also need the 45 degree angle for feeding to make sure that if they vomit (reflux is very normal for babies), they don't accidentally swallow back their vomit and choke.
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Got finally answer my question. Yup just a short distance from hospital back to my house.

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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jul 11 2016, 04:44 PM)
Babies should NOT be left in the carseat for longer than 90 minutes each time, BECAUSE the carseat is not lying flat. Babies should lie flat most of the time. However, lying flat in the car is NOT safe if there is a car accident, because the 45 degree angle as per your carseat's indicator, protects your baby's entire spine in a car accident, like a rocking "cradle when the bough breaks" in the song rockabye baby song.

So just tell your auntie that baby will most often be in his crib/floor/cot lying flat at home, not in the car. BUT this angle is necessary in the car. If you have to drive for more than 90 minutes with your baby, break the journey up so that baby gets out of the carseat for half an hour or so every 90 minutes.

Once your baby has head control, you can extend his/her time in the carseat to two to four hours, but every two-four hours, still need to let out to stretch and move about. In fact, adults should also get up/out and stretch/walk around every two/three hours to extend lifespan.

More info: http://www.babycentre.co.uk/x554834/is-it-...in-his-car-seat

You can also tell your auntie that baby must NOT be fed lying flat. Babies also need the 45 degree angle for feeding to make sure that if they vomit (reflux is very normal for babies), they don't accidentally swallow back their vomit and choke.
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hanishoney can really be our Malaysia CarSeatLady or CarSeatGuy thumbsup.gif
Time for a little review of my Diono Radian R120 car seats after using for a month.

Details:
-Car Seat Models: Diono Radian R120 (2x)
-Car: Honda City 2015
-Car installation position: Side and middle of car rear seats (rear-facing position)
-Usage: Side rear seats is for my 2.5 year old toddler and middle rear seats is for my 9 month baby
-Using ELR belts and locking clip for both child car seats instead of Latch to save width space
-Top Tether is clipped on the Diono Tether strap for both child car seats
-Bought Diono angle adjuster and installed it at the child car seat (side rear seats). This is to free up some space of the front passenger seat.
-Bought and installed two Diono Dry Seat Protectors to minimize any accidents (pee, vomit etc)

Review:
The child car seat is really narrow. After installing two child seats rear facing at the back, an adult can still sit at the back comfortably. It uses full steel frame so it is quite safe but it is heavy. This car seat can rear-facing till 20.5kg or 112cm, forward-facing till 36kg, booster mode till 54kg or 144cm. It has a chest clip to ensures the child stays safely and correctly positioned within their harness. The car seat can easily be folded if not in use. It is also crash test certified.
However i also find some cons. This car seat has very few paddings due to it is narrow and there is almost no head protection. I should have bought the Diono Radian RXT for the little extra head protection. However the Diono Radian RXT also have some cons. Some say the child's shoulder may hit the head wing when they grow older and the head wing may interfere with the car seat belt in booster mode. The Diono Radian R120/RXT is very tall so rear-facing can take up alot of space therefore i bought the Diono Angle Adjuster.
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QUOTE(splinter @ Jul 10 2016, 09:59 PM)
Need sifu help,

I bought graco extend2fit version and installed it for my newborn baby. Problem is my auntie command that the recline level still not enough for newborn baby. It suggest to be flat for newborn baby but this car seat support 0-6years above.

How? Urgent as my wife going to deliver this week according to doctor.

Thanks
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May I know how much is the price for the Graco?

Now looking for 1 which can be rear-faced up to at least 18kg. Graco and Joie are on the list, but have not finalised which model yet. Most likely will go for Joie Steadi, due to the price + rear facing up to 18kg. But the disadvantage will be it's without Isofix/Latch, which the Graco ones come with it. May I know are there any Joie Steadi users here? Any reviews?

A bit not so keen on those can last more than 10 years old+ age, as by the time the kid reaches this age, the seat would have already expired, not being able to take the advantage of the flexibility. Any thoughts on this?

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Hi i got a used baby car seat. sweet cherry brand.Seldom use and Clean, do pm me if anyone here interested. thanks.
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post Jul 30 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(atah @ Jul 29 2016, 11:09 AM)
May I know how much is the price for the Graco?

Now looking for 1 which can be rear-faced up to at least 18kg. Graco and Joie are on the list, but have not finalised which model yet. Most likely will go for Joie Steadi, due to the price + rear facing up to 18kg. But the disadvantage will be it's without Isofix/Latch, which the Graco ones come with it. May I know are there any Joie Steadi users here? Any reviews?

A bit not so keen on those can last more than 10 years old+ age, as by the time the kid reaches this age, the seat would have already expired, not being able to take the advantage of the flexibility. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks
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Never forget that you must replace carseats after any accident, even if the child is not in the carseat at the time of the accident. So I'm personally not keen on long-lasting seats myself, not just because of expiry, but because I personally have paid RM1.4k for a carseat and then had to throw away just one week later because accident. Overseas, when car gets into accident, can claim from motor insurance to replace the carseat. Malaysian motor insurance does not have such option. Always make sure you have enough money to buy another carseat just in case you get into a car accident.

From what I hear about Joie Steadi, it can be prone to buckle crunch, so I suggest to try in your car before you buy, to make sure it doesn't have buckle crunch in your car. LittleWhiz.com is a great shop that you can make an appointment to try the carseat out in your car.

Graco Extend2Fit is a lot pricier than Joie Steadi (Official Distributor's Website). If you have any intention to forward face the carseat, you'll also need to make sure that your car has a top tether anchor which you'd need to use when forward-facing.
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Would like to ask am planning to get another car seat for my wife's car.

Am currently looking at Britax Omega II, Joie Steadi and Graco Extend2fit

What do you guys recommend? My wife drives a Myvi.

My car is equipped with Britax first class plus.
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jul 31 2016, 08:31 AM)
Would like to ask am planning to get another car seat for my wife's car.

Am currently looking at Britax Omega II, Joie Steadi and Graco Extend2fit

What do you guys recommend? My wife drives a Myvi.

My car is equipped with Britax first class plus.
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When it comes to child carseats, Myvi has two versions. The old Myvi doesn't have ISOFIX, and middle back seat is a lapbelt. New Myvi is equipped with ISOFIX and a shoulder belt in the middle back seat. So you have to clarify which Myvi you have.

Also, how old is your child, weight and height? Recommendations should really be based on your child's age, weight and height, before being based on anything else.
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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Aug 1 2016, 02:07 PM)
When it comes to child carseats, Myvi has two versions. The old Myvi doesn't have ISOFIX, and middle back seat is a lapbelt. New Myvi is equipped with ISOFIX and a shoulder belt in the middle back seat. So you have to clarify which Myvi you have.

Also, how old is your child, weight and height? Recommendations should really be based on your child's age, weight and height, before being based on anything else.
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Thanks for your advice, yes I forgot to mention those particulars.

Anyhow I have bought for our baby a Chicco Nextfit Zip and she likes it so far so yeah no complains.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Aug 1 2016, 02:07 PM)
When it comes to child carseats, Myvi has two versions. The old Myvi doesn't have ISOFIX, and middle back seat is a lapbelt. New Myvi is equipped with ISOFIX and a shoulder belt in the middle back seat. So you have to clarify which Myvi you have.

Also, how old is your child, weight and height? Recommendations should really be based on your child's age, weight and height, before being based on anything else.
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Thanks for your advice, yes I forgot to mention those particulars.

Anyhow I have bought for our baby a Chicco Nextfit Zip and she likes it so far so yeah no complains.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ May 20 2016, 05:34 PM)
Using this combi seat... very nice no complaints...

But problem is all COMBI seats doesnt come with ISOFIX, so its kinda a hassle to move around different cars...

End up buying another seat so can have one in each car..

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I finally had time to check out the Combi Malgott carseat manual. One thing I'd like to point out is that it rear-faces only to 10kg. Since rear-facing is FIVE TIMES safer than forward facing, I suggest that when your baby gets close to 10kg, go shopping for at least an infant seat that rearfaces to 13kg, so you can rear-face just a little longer.

There are carseats that rear-face to 13kg that are as cheap as RM119, so surely that price is worth the extra FIVE TIMES protection you can give your baby for an extra 3kg? My baby slowed down in growth a lot after he turned 6mo. He's been 9kg for 3 whole months, so assuming that he only grows 1kg every 3 months after 10kg, that's another 9 months that he can rear-face! For such a low price. And yes, when your baby is not yet 2yo, cheapo RM119 rear-facing carseat is still FIVE TIMES safer than fancy-shmancy RM1.5k front facing carseat. But do make sure that baby's head still shorter than the top of the infant carseat/carriers. Some infant carriers claim can rear-face to 13kg, but the back is too short and baby cannot fit anymore by height long before they reach 13kg.

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