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post Feb 27 2013, 01:56 PM, updated 13y ago

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Blue-eyed sex for sale

Men might be forgiven for feeling flattered or even interested, when the blonde bombshell with blue eyes winks and purses her lips like an invitation. The first word out of her mouth, however, indicates she's all business.

"Fapiao," she says in a heavy Russian accent that's not quite pronounced properly. She repeats the Chinese word for "invoice," and there's no mistake that she's a working girl who can provide a way for her customers to covertly get reimbursed.

Pan Suiming, a professor with Renmin University of China and one of China's leading sexologists, says high-end, foreign prostitutes are making big bucks while providing their clients with the added bonus of fake invoices.

"I am afraid all the sex workers know these two Chinese words," Pan told the Global Times. "It appeals to Chinese customers," who get free sex by claiming the expense as some far less nefarious business activity.

High-end call girls and high rollers aside, prostitution is far from a glamorous, innocent occupation. Caught by the police in China, hookers, their pimps and their johns can receive sentences up to 10 years in jail.  Some have been given life sentences and in the past a few have been executed.

Yet the risks and punishment haven't stopped foreign sex workers from coming to China where they have exotic appeal and can earn more than they would at home.

Sex workers from Europe and Asia

While there are no clear-cut statistics on the number of overseas sex workers, most white women practicing their trade in China are from Russia, Mongolia and Eastern Europe. There are also many Asian women from Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, according to previously published police reports. The total number of sex workers in China has been estimated to be between 1 and 6 million.

The Global Times' requests for interviews and information from Beijing police went unanswered.

Pan believes the number of foreign sex workers is on the increase and blames corrupt officials for the rise.

"They (the officials) have a lot of money to burn and it's not even their money," he said, adding that officials who use invoices provided by their paid sex partners are stealing taxpayers' money.

"Ordinary working Chinese men are not likely to spend that much of their income on a foreign prostitute," said Pan.

Exotic foreign women usually meet their johns in nightclubs, fancy bars or KTV clubs. They can earn several times more than Chinese sex workers who are more likely to work out of a dingy massage parlor.

With Chinese and foreign sex workers working their own territories in cosmopolitan cities like Beijing and Shanghai, a number of neighborhoods have become notorious as the stomping ground of foreign women who sell their bodies.

Residents and shopkeepers around Beijing's Ritan Park in Chaoyang district, which is the well-known lair of sex workers from Mongolia, Russia and Eastern Europe, told the Global Times that they have found a way to coexist.

"I do my business and they do theirs, we don't bother each other," a rickshaw driver who wouldn't give his name told the Global Times.

A well-known bar in the neighborhood was forced to close during the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008 by authorities who were apparently worried about the city's image. It reopened after the Games.

Police have, from time to time, carried out raids against organized prostitution in campaigns called saohuang, which literally means "sweep the yellow." In Chinese the word yellow refers to things sexually exotic such as pornography and prostitution.

In mid-January a group of 71 pimps, prostitutes and johns were tried in Beijing at a Fengtai district court. Twelve of the prostitutes were foreigners, the court told the Global Times earlier.

Thirty-three people were sentenced to up to three years in prison on various prostitution charges in the case. Few other details were made available.

In Guangdong Province, police broke a prostitution ring and rescued four teenage girls from Vietnam who said they were kidnapped and forced into prostitution in 2009. Six suspects were arrested.

In early 2010, three Eastern European women in Shanghai were deported after they spent 15 days in detention for prostitution. The women, between 20 and 30 years old, told police that they had been lured to Shanghai with promises of high-paying jobs.

Exotic pets of the powerful

Crackdowns on high-priced hookers have also snared some high-level philanderers.

Du Xiangcheng was discovered to be a two-faced hypocrite when he was caught with a call girl from Belarus in a five-star hotel room in Beijing in December 2006. Du was a top anti-corruption official with the Hunan provincial government. He was fired but it's not known if he faced other legal or criminal consequences.

Prostitution has long been considered an unacceptable malignancy in China.

Just two months after the founding of New China in 1949, the Beijing government staged perhaps its greatest crackdown on what had grown into an industry. On a cold November night, 224 brothels were raided and 1,300 prostitutes, including numerous foreign women, were arrested.

Up until the 1990s there were few signs of open prostitution in the Chinese mainland. Today, however, the Chinese media often reports on the mass arrests of sex workers who apply their trade too overtly.

The headline-grabbing busts - especially when they involve foreign women - and the meting out of harsh punishment, make for sensational stories in media outlets around the country.

Two men in Xi'an, Shaanxi Province, were sentenced to 14 years and eight years in prison for coercing three foreign women aged 19 to 29 into the sex trade in 2010.

A "Madame," whose stable of hookers included Russian and Chinese prostitutes, told the Global Times earlier that the police had turned up the heat and she was giving up the business and leaving Beijing. "The girls are gone, and my business is done thanks to the police," she said.

She recounted how her two Russian girls - Iva and Eva - could easily make 2,000 yuan ($317) a day.

The Russian pair made a hasty retreat from China a week after Beijing police closed more than 250 sex parlors - which often pose as hair salons - and detained more than 1,100 sex workers in April 2010.

Liu Wenyan, a lawyer with the All-China Women's Federation, told the Global Times that Chinese police have a lot of difficulties dealing with foreign sex workers.

"There's a language barrier and they have a foreign passport. Just about the only things Chinese police can do is issue a warning, report them to their country's embassy, and deport them rather than try them in court," said Liu, suggesting that China's relatively open visa requirements make it hard for police to prevent foreign prostitutes from entering the country.

Liu, who has researched foreign prostitutes and written a book on sex trade in China, said foreign sex workers seldom work on their own and are often "owned" by organized crime syndicates.

"The police should be cracking down on crime bosses, not just the girls," said Liu.

"The numerous foreign prostitutes in China cause a lot of social problems but more importantly selling yourself for sex is against socialist mores," he said.

Despite Liu's arching view that prostitution is a scourge on society, ordinary people seem to be taking a broader, more sympathetic view of working women who have few other choices in life.

An online survey published by Insight China magazine in 2009 showed sex workers were rated more trustworthy than politicians, scientists and teachers.  While only 7.9 percent of the 3,376 respondents agreed that sex workers were trustworthy, they still managed to rank No. 3 behind only farmers and religious workers. The least trustworthy were property developers, sales people and actors.

Help from Hong Kong

Many foreign sex workers enter China on tourist or business visas which limit their stay in the country to a few months at a time. Some end up in Hong Kong seeking visa renewals where they can also find an escape route from their profession.

A Hong Kong-based non-governmental organization called Ziteng, which safeguards sex workers' rights, helps foreign prostitutes better understand the reality they face working on the Chinese mainland.

"We tell them, yes, you might earn more than you do in your country, but it is illegal and not worth the risk," said Lee, a case worker with Ziteng.

Some sex workers from Mongolia, Russia and Indonesia came to Ziteng looking for help last year with the hope they could get a ticket to travel home.

Lee said Ziteng can provide information and a free health check, but it doesn't have the resources to help the women return home.

Ziteng produced a migrant sex workers' handbook called Things to Know Before You Go. It includes information about prostitution laws, immigration laws, public health control and working condition within the sector.

"Even though they feel safer working outside of the country, we have to let them know that it's never as great as they might think," Lee said.


http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID...x-for-sale.aspx

Difference between Malaysia and China. In Malaysia, foreign prostitute mostly from China,SEA. In China, foreign prostitute mostly from Russia,Mongolia, Eastern Europe.

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post Feb 27 2013, 01:59 PM

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post Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM

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i know many malaysian and sg girls doing that in dubai
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM

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Meanwhile, their women flood here...
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM

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post Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM

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mongolian = china ?
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM)
mongolian = china ?
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Mongolian not China lar...

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post Feb 27 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 02:01 PM)
Mongolian not China lar...
Inner Mongolia part of China wut...
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:03 PM

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ok.. i honestly didnt read but why is there the word "pet" there?
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(yellownblack @ Feb 27 2013, 02:03 PM)
Inner Mongolia part of China wut...
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inner mongolia, but not mongolia.
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:03 PM)
ok.. i honestly didnt read but why is there the word "pet" there?
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TS had omitted the word "chi" at the front. full word is chi-pet. chinese pet ^^
chinese used chicken as pet in china.


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post Feb 27 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(jaymansion @ Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM)
i know many malaysian and sg girls doing that in dubai
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Not really. Mostly thai, filipino and indonesian.
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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:06 PM)
TS had omitted the word "chi" at the front. full word is chi-pet. chinese pet ^^
chinese used chicken as pet in china.
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then why is there exotic pet?
shouldnt it be erotic pet?
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM)
Meanwhile, their women flood here...
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Those Chinese women probably can not compete with foreign sex workers since foreign sex workers earn more than Chinese prostitutes and maybe that's why Chinese women come to Malaysia.

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Exotic foreign women usually meet their johns in nightclubs, fancy bars or KTV clubs. They can earn several times more than Chinese sex workers who are more likely to work out of a dingy massage parlor.


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QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:08 PM)
then why is there exotic pet?
shouldnt it be erotic pet?
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same. depend on , fakable or unfakable only.
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QUOTE(ADVAN @ Feb 27 2013, 02:07 PM)
Not really. Mostly thai, filipino and indonesian.
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wow, marketing survey to dubai. so the export quality good?> brows.gif
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QUOTE(ADVAN @ Feb 27 2013, 02:07 PM)
Not really. Mostly thai, filipino and indonesian.
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i went minum saw alot and they told me alot wor....... brows.gif biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:17 PM

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so, the one in Dubai is from Malaysia,SG or Thai,Philippine,Indon or both?

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 01:56 PM)
http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID...x-for-sale.aspx

Difference between Malaysia and China. In Malaysia, foreign prostitute mostly from China,SEA. In China, foreign prostitute mostly from Russia,Mongolia, Eastern Europe.
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several reason:
mesian love china dolls. while in china their woman is too cheap for they are abundance so they go for russian for a change

top quality china dolls has been exported to malaysia and other country. for its more profitable that way(they are the cheapest u can ask at brothels, but pretty)

russia,mongolia,eastern europe is all inferior than china. they sells better at china like china doll sells better in malaysia than in china



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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:10 PM)
wow, marketing survey to dubai. so the export quality good?>  brows.gif
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Family got house there ma. So quite often go to dubai lo.. But i didnt cheong there la.. laugh.gif
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LOL!Why malay girl cheapest?
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Macma kat sini jugak...ramai PRC, Viet, etc tapi NL jugak di cari...huhu
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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 02:19 PM)
several reason:
mesian love china dolls. while in china their woman is too cheap for they are abundance so they go for russian for a change

top quality china dolls has been exported to malaysia and other country. for its more profitable that way(they are the cheapest u can ask at brothels, but pretty)

russia,mongolia,eastern europe is all inferior than china. they sells better at china like china doll sells better in malaysia than in china
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How pretty are those China dollz in Malaysia and other countries? Got drillz?
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 02:22 PM)
How pretty are those China dollz in Malaysia and other countries? Got drillz?
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go to brothel urself.
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 02:20 PM)
LOL!Why malay girl cheapest?
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becoz malay girl no need to pay oso can get. try woo malay vs chinese girl which one harder to take off their cloth for u
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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 02:24 PM)
becoz malay girl no need to pay oso can get. try woo malay vs chinese girl which one harder to take off their cloth for u
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Well, my friends say those China dolls look average but I myself never went to brothel.
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 02:20 PM)
LOL!Why malay girl cheapest?
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Supply and demand bro

supply and demand... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 02:24 PM)
becoz malay girl no need to pay oso can get. try woo malay vs chinese girl which one harder to take off their cloth for u
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I notice nowadays melei gals also start jual mahal..
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QUOTE(ADVAN @ Feb 27 2013, 02:20 PM)
Family got house there ma. So quite often go to dubai lo.. But i didnt cheong there la.. laugh.gif
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I heard the there are plenty of eastern european ladies there as well...but they only service white expats and not asians, not even arabs... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ADVAN @ Feb 27 2013, 02:28 PM)
I notice nowadays melei gals also start jual mahal..
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Aiyah ikut trend mah...

nowadays roti canai mahal, teh tarik mahal, rumah mahal...apa pun mahal...so why not they jual mahal... biggrin.gif

Everything mahal except my salary only....
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:29 PM)
I heard the there are plenty of eastern european ladies there as well...but they only service white expats and not asians, not even arabs... biggrin.gif
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i dont cheong but ew? eastern europe? thats like 2nd grade european . want to jual mahal sommore

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very creative with the names. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 02:25 PM)
Well, my friends say those China dolls look average but I myself never went to brothel.
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dunno bout average brothel but the one i know is high class that never once got rushed by the polis. i know that place more than 10 years ago(but at that time dun hev any idea its a brothel)

QUOTE(ADVAN @ Feb 27 2013, 02:28 PM)
I notice nowadays melei gals also start jual mahal..
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that one the dignified malay. maybe strong faith, or the one whos got family name to keep
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very creative with the names. rclxms.gif
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lol must be from the state who claimed that their woman is the fairest

nelienuxe_sara

for those who didnt read it said fair skinned malay girl

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becoz malay girl no need to pay oso can get. try woo malay vs chinese girl which one harder to take off their cloth for u
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Btw, that advertisement right, is from Malaysia or China?
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lol must be from the state who claimed that their woman is the fairest

nelienuxe_sara

for those who didnt read it said fair skinned malay girl
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You mean this yellow poster advertisement there write 'fair skinned malay girl'?

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Why phillipine girl more expensive than melei gurls?

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 02:49 PM)
You mean this yellow poster advertisement there write 'fair skinned malay girl'?

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i can only read white and horse tongue.gif
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i can only read white and horse  tongue.gif
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You Chinese? Know how to read Chinese characters? Any idea where the advertisement come from?
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:49 PM)
You mean this yellow poster advertisement there write 'fair skinned malay girl'?

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"Big bewbs chinese" (CN)
"young and local" (HK)
"fair skined malay" (malay girl)
"passionate phils" (PH)
"wild caucasian" (Russia)

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"Big bewbs nun" (CN)
"young and local" (HK)
"fair skined malay" (malay girl)
"passionate phils" (PH)
"wild caucasian" (Russia)
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HAHA. Thanks for all the translation. biggrin.gif
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what is "fair skinned malay"?

Malaysian Malay whose is fair skinned or Malaysian Chinese?
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QUOTE(Meis @ Feb 27 2013, 03:07 PM)
what is "fair skinned malay"?

Malaysian Malay whose is fair skinned or Malaysian Chinese?
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probably malaysian chinese....

but i can tell u, those russkie aint giving good servis compared to guat nam poh....
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You Chinese? Know how to read Chinese characters? Any idea where the advertisement come from?
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nah. i study japanese.my wife oso japanese so i always read the article she read although its unlikely i understands it because i didnt memorize more than 1000 characters

that ads is from HK
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"Big bewbs chinese" (CN)
"young and local" (HK)
"fair skined malay" (malay girl)
"passionate phils" (PH)
"wild caucasian" (Russia)
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malay is spelled with the character 'horse' eh?

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:11 PM)
probably malaysian chinese....

but i can tell u, those russkie aint giving good servis compared to guat nam poh....
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unlikely.
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I see,in Kopitiam, we always talk about China prostitute this and that, little did we know Malay girls also secretly prostituting themselves.

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unlikely.
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and why is that?
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and why is that?
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You butthurt? Can not accept reality?



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huh? butthurt about?

i jst want to know why he say it is not possible to be malaysian chinese...why suddenly become i buthurt? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:19 PM)
huh? butthurt about?

i jst want to know why he say it is not possible to be malaysian chinese...why suddenly become i buthurt?  rclxub.gif
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The advertisement clearly say Malay.
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:17 PM)
and why is that?
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who dafuq selling themself cheap at HK while they can got more as prostitute in here(2.5HKD = RM1) doh.gif

and they wont label themself as malay, unless malay sold for higher price there
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QUOTE(Meis @ Feb 27 2013, 04:07 PM)
what is "fair skinned malay"?

Malaysian Malay whose is fair skinned or Malaysian Chinese?
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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 04:13 PM)
nah. i study japanese.my wife oso japanese so i always read the article she read although its unlikely i understands it because i didnt memorize more than 1000 characters

that ads is from HK
malay is spelled with the character 'horse' eh?
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Whatever it is AceKendy just said. Those are definitely ethnic Malay girls.
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QUOTE(jaymansion @ Feb 27 2013, 02:00 PM)
i know many malaysian and sg girls doing that in dubai
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:19 PM)
The advertisement clearly say Malay.
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well, unless there is rarely any fair-skinned malay. we all know how malay looks like, dont we? sweat.gif






QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 03:20 PM)
who dafuq selling themself cheap at HK while they can got more as prostitute in here(2.5HKD = RM1) doh.gif

and they wont label themself as malay, unless malay sold for higher price there
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do you happen to have friends from china, hong kong and taiwan?

ask the how they call malaysian chinese here...and ALL of their answer is, Malay. period.

i only found out about this when i get to know around 50 friends from taiwan, hk and china..and it took me VERY long time to convince them that i am a malaysian chinese, and not a malay.
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QUOTE(AceKendy @ Feb 27 2013, 03:20 PM)
"馬拉" = Malay

if is Malay-Chinese, it should be "华侨". Not "馬拉" (Malay)
yes.
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china beh pakai , viet or thai still the best laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:23 PM)
well, unless there is rarely any fair-skinned malay. we all know how malay looks like, dont we?  sweat.gif
do you happen to have friends from china, hong kong and taiwan?

ask the how they call malaysian chinese here...and ALL of their answer is, Malay. period.

i only found out about this when i get to know around 50 friends from taiwan, hk and china..and it took me VERY long time to convince them that i am a malaysian chinese, and not a malay.
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no i dun care what they called us.its just so stupid so sell themself at ferign market for a cheaper price from where they come from, no? and that enaff to convice they do refer to malay race
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Well, i can see izu also abit knowledgeable about prostitutions eh? smile.gif

Ok let's clear the air abit here. In hongkong they refer to all malaysians as malays. They dont farking give a damn whether you are ethnic malay, ethnic chinese, ethnic indian, ethnic sikh (well they have another term for sikh though), kadazan, iban or whatever. As long as you are from malaysia they call us malays. Simple as that.

So, back to that price list, read in our own context, we would've thought she's our malay girl, but looking from their point of view, it could be our malay girls, it could be our chinese girls, or indian girls or hell, even indon girls. Not that them hong kong ppl can differentiate anyway. Do you understand now?
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:23 PM)
well, unless there is rarely any fair-skinned malay. we all know how malay looks like, dont we?  sweat.gif
do you happen to have friends from china, hong kong and taiwan?

ask the how they call malaysian chinese here...and ALL of their answer is, Malay. period.

i only found out about this when i get to know around 50 friends from taiwan, hk and china..and it took me VERY long time to convince them that i am a malaysian chinese, and not a malay.
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Because nobody want dark skin Malay, that's why they only advertise fair skin Malay. There are fair skin Malay although it's very rare. So yeah, those girls are in fact ethnic Malay girls. Get your fact straight.

Who said they call Malaysian Chinese, Malay, unless you mean Malay as in Malaysian.
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Well, i can see izu also abit knowledgeable about prostitutions eh? smile.gif

Ok let's clear the air abit here. In hongkong they refer to all malaysians as malays. They dont farking give a damn whether you are ethnic malay, ethnic chinese, ethnic indian, ethnic sikh (well they have another term for sikh though), kadazan, iban or whatever. As long as you are from malaysia they call us malays. Simple as that.

So, back to that price list, read in our own context, we would've thought she's our malay girl, but looking from their point of view, it could be our malay girls, it could be our chinese girls, or indian girls  or hell, even indon girls. Not that them hong kong ppl can differentiate anyway. Do you understand now?
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Not indian girls though right...they have already a term for indian women in HK....
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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 03:26 PM)
no i dun care what they called us.its just so stupid so sell themself at ferign market for a cheaper price from where they come from, no? and that enaff to convice they do refer to malay race
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nah..suicai99 below jst re-enforced what i said.

They (HK, Taiwan & China ppl) dont give a fark whether we are malaysian malay, malaysian chinese or whatever..coz to them, all malaysian IS MALAY. Period!






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Well, i can see izu also abit knowledgeable about prostitutions eh? smile.gif

Ok let's clear the air abit here. In hongkong they refer to all malaysians as malays. They dont farking give a damn whether you are ethnic malay, ethnic chinese, ethnic indian, ethnic sikh (well they have another term for sikh though), kadazan, iban or whatever. As long as you are from malaysia they call us malays. Simple as that.

So, back to that price list, read in our own context, we would've thought she's our malay girl, but looking from their point of view, it could be our malay girls, it could be our chinese girls, or indian girls  or hell, even indon girls. Not that them hong kong ppl can differentiate anyway. Do you understand now?
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hmm..never tried thai before..but i tell u, some viet really, really, really provide gooding servis....if only i can share my FR here, hehe...  brows.gif
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:26 PM)
Well, i can see izu also abit knowledgeable about prostitutions eh? smile.gif

Ok let's clear the air abit here. In hongkong they refer to all malaysians as malays. They dont farking give a damn whether you are ethnic malay, ethnic chinese, ethnic indian, ethnic sikh (well they have another term for sikh though), kadazan, iban or whatever. As long as you are from malaysia they call us malays. Simple as that.

So, back to that price list, read in our own context, we would've thought she's our malay girl, but looking from their point of view, it could be our malay girls, it could be our chinese girls, or indian girls  or hell, even indon girls. Not that them hong kong ppl can differentiate anyway. Do you understand now?
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No, they don't. Malay is ethnic term, unless you mean Malaysian.
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nah..suicai99 below jst re-enforced what i said.

They (HK, Taiwan & China ppl) dont give a fark whether we are malaysian malay, malaysian chinese or whatever..coz to them, all malaysian IS MALAY. Period!
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:26 PM)
Well, i can see izu also abit knowledgeable about prostitutions eh? smile.gif

Ok let's clear the air abit here. In hongkong they refer to all malaysians as malays. They dont farking give a damn whether you are ethnic malay, ethnic chinese, ethnic indian, ethnic sikh (well they have another term for sikh though), kadazan, iban or whatever. As long as you are from malaysia they call us malays. Simple as that.

So, back to that price list, read in our own context, we would've thought she's our malay girl, but looking from their point of view, it could be our malay girls, it could be our chinese girls, or indian girls  or hell, even indon girls. Not that them hong kong ppl can differentiate anyway. Do you understand now?
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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 03:26 PM)
no i dun care what they called us.its just so stupid so sell themself at ferign market for a cheaper price from where they come from, no? and that enaff to convice they do refer to malay race
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one more thing, how much are they offering for char koay teow locally?





QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:28 PM)
Because nobody want dark skin Malay, that's why they only advertise fair skin Malay. There are fair skin Malay although it's very rare. So yeah, those girls are in fact ethnic Malay girls. Get your fact straight.

Who said they call Malaysian Chinese, Malay, unless you mean Malay as in Malaysian.
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lol..get whose fact straight? i thought i jst said to you that people from china hongkong and taiwan call all malaysian as malay. they dont care if you are malaysian chinese or not. they will call you malay. i get alot of 1st hand encounter - 50+ of them if you dont mind me saying from all 3 countries.
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:30 PM)
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:28 PM)
Because nobody want dark skin Malay, that's why they only advertise fair skin Malay. There are fair skin Malay although it's very rare. So yeah, those girls are in fact ethnic Malay girls. Get your fact straight.

Who said they call Malaysian Chinese, Malay, unless you mean Malay as in Malaysian.
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Varezart, it is true that them hongkongese calls all malaysians, malays. Even towards malaysian chinese, they'll refer to them as "that malai boy". Source : my chinese fren told me.

Plus, as per my earlier post, it could be indon girls too, and them hongkongese cant differentiate at all.
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:26 PM)
Well, i can see izu also abit knowledgeable about prostitutions eh? smile.gif

Ok let's clear the air abit here. In hongkong they refer to all malaysians as malays. They dont farking give a damn whether you are ethnic malay, ethnic chinese, ethnic indian, ethnic sikh (well they have another term for sikh though), kadazan, iban or whatever. As long as you are from malaysia they call us malays. Simple as that.

So, back to that price list, read in our own context, we would've thought she's our malay girl, but looking from their point of view, it could be our malay girls, it could be our chinese girls, or indian girls  or hell, even indon girls. Not that them hong kong ppl can differentiate anyway. Do you understand now?
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Malaysian Chinese looks the same as Malaysian Malay?

I didn't know that or average HK-er is retarded... ignorant is bliss
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:31 PM)
one more thing, how much are they offering for char koay teow locally?
lol..get whose fact straight? i thought i jst said to you that people from china hongkong and taiwan call all malaysian as malay. they dont care if you are malaysian chinese or not. they will call you malay. i get alot of 1st hand encounter - 50+ of them if you dont mind me saying from all 3 countries.
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They don't you idiot. They didn't call Malaysian Chinese as Malay.
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yeah even my feel can feel you bro  laugh.gif  FR means ?
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Don't lie. If you don't know how to read Chinese characters then don't bother.
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:31 PM)
Varezart, it is true that them hongkongese calls all malaysians, malays. Even towards malaysian chinese, they'll refer to them as "that malai boy". Source : my chinese fren told me.

Plus, as per my earlier post, it could be indon girls too, and them hongkongese cant differentiate at all.
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I've been to China,HK, but they never refer to me as Malay. They are aware there are Chinese in SEA particularly Singapore. It's not that hard to differentiate Malay girls and Chinese girls,ok.
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sini also got mongol,russia,czech etc etc la weh...
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Field Report mang...every cheong forum will have their own section where ppl post field report..  brows.gif
oops..how u know i lie...
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:32 PM)
They don't you idiot. They didn't call Malaysian Chinese as Malay.
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i think they call malay as in malaysia njot as in race,like us call indonesian as indon,while indon aint a race,it refer to indonesian themself
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I've been to China,HK, but they never refer to me as Malay. They are aware there are Chinese in SEA particularly Singapore. It's not that hard to differentiate Malay girls and Chinese girls,ok.
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sini also got mongol,russia,czech etc etc la weh...
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oit ko pun budak MSS ke
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i think they call malay as in malaysia njot as in race,like us call indonesian as indon,while indon aint a race,it refer to indonesian themself
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Yeah..that is exactly my point. The Chinese characters in the advertisement clearly wrote as in ethnic Malay, NOT Malaysian as in nationality.

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They don't you idiot. They didn't call Malaysian Chinese as Malay.
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oh waii....ignorant is bliss indeed..
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got tapi mahal

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QUOTE(Meis @ Feb 27 2013, 03:32 PM)
Malaysian Chinese looks the same as Malaysian Malay?

I didn't know that or average HK-er is retarded... ignorant is bliss
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No it's not about the differentiating looks lah... It's just a term. A blanket term that hongkongese puts to all malaysians irregardless of ethnicity. Two separate matters.
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I know you lie cause I've been to China,HK before.
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oh..u go there lar..not they come here lar? i am sure they know you're a chinese in a glance..asnd when u show them ur passport or personal details, they go 'oh' in their head...

u ask those that come here one lar..then see what they call u. lol lol....






QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:35 PM)
Yeah..that is exactly my  point. The Chinese characters in the advertisement clearly wrote as in ethnic Malay, NOT Malaysian as in nationality.
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Look yourself in the mirror.
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it's a blanket term for all malaysian lar...




QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:37 PM)
No it's not about the differentiating looks lah... It's just a term. A blanket term that hongkongese puts to all malaysians irregardless of ethnicity. Two separate matters.
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oh..u go there lar..not they come here lar? i am sure they know you're a chinese in a glance..asnd when u show them ur passport or personal details, they go 'oh' in their head...

u ask those that come here one lar..then see what they call u. lol lol....
they cant differentiate....most of them.. lol lol...
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I went there for holidays, tell them I'm Chinese from Malaysia, like Chinese from America. Straight away they understand.

Are you kidding me. Who said they can't differentiate.
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No it's not about the differentiating looks lah... It's just a term. A blanket term that hongkongese puts to all malaysians irregardless of ethnicity. Two separate matters.
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Malay as in nationality, not ethnic. If you read the Chinese characters in the advertisement, it the writing represent ethnic not nationality.

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it's a blanket term for all malaysian lar...

As in nationality, not ethnic or race lar.....

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Malaysian Chinese looks the same as Malaysian Malay?

I didn't know that or average HK-er is retarded... ignorant is bliss
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same like suicai99's example for indonesia ppl..
we call them indon...regardless whether it's indonesia chinese or not..

so hong kong ppl call us malay also..regardless whether we are malaysian chinese or not..

coz to them, malay means citizen of malaysia...like how france is french ppl...
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I still beleive that the sign refers to malaysian girls instead of specifically pinpointing malay girls. Fair skinned malai girls. Our east malaysian bumiputra girls are quite fair skinned, u know...

Anyway, hkd168 is rm67 roughly. Sounds cheap eh?

But 10 years ago, i could get a fark for only rm30 at petaling street backlane (indons, sarwakinas and sabahans) and even today, one can still get rm50 a pop (indons) in brickfields. what is so surprising that one gets a pop at rm67 in hongkong lah? smile.gif
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:43 PM)
I still beleive that the sign refers to malaysian girls instead of specifically pinpointing malay girls. Fair skinned malai girls. Our east malaysian bumiputra girls are quite fair skinned, u know...

Anyway, hkd168 is rm67 roughly. Sounds cheap eh?

But 10 years ago, i could get a fark for only rm30 at petaling street backlane (indons, sarwakinas and sabahans) and even today, one can still get rm50 a pop (indons) in brickfields. what is so surprising that one gets a pop at rm67 in hongkong lah? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:43 PM)
Malay as in nationality, not ethnic. If you read the Chinese characters in the advertisement, it the writing represent ethnic not nationality.
As in nationality, not ethnic or race lar.....
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Duh.. you don't know how to read Chinese characters aren't you.
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Aku mana reti baca cine woi.... But after some googling, it seems that the last 2 characters in that advert is the same writing as our malaysia written in chinese (ma-lai-xi-ya)

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I went there for holidays, tell them I'm Chinese from Malaysia, like Chinese from America. Straight away they understand.

Are you kidding me. Who said they can't differentiate.
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that s the difference...

if an indonesia chinese come malaysia and tell us they are indonesia chinese..we will respect them and call them indonesian chinese....

but when we go indonesia, everyone we see are indon....no matter they are indonesia chinese or not...they are jst indon...

like how when hk ppl or china ppl come malaysia, everyone they see is malay....coz malay is not a race to them, malay is a name that means malaysia people, like malaysian.
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That is why I said you are wrong when you think the Malay here refer to Malaysian nationality.
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that s the difference...

if an indonesia chinese come malaysia and tell us they are indonesia chinese..we will respect them and call them indonesian chinese....

but when we go indonesia, everyone we see are indon....no matter they are indonesia chinese or not...they are jst indon...

like how when hk ppl or china ppl come malaysia, everyone they see is malay....coz malay is not a race to them, malay is a name that means malaysia people, like malaysian.
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That is why I said learn how to read Chinese characters. The Chinese characters from the advertisement are referring to Malay as in race/ethnic, not nationality.

Beside, if nationality they will use Malaysian, not Malay.

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loh panjang giler gaduh.org dah kata character tu sendiri maksudnya melayu bukan malaysian chinese

yg romaji tu translation je,x penting.org yg tulis tu tulis cine dulu br translate
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That is why I said you are wrong when you think the Malay here refer to Malaysian nationality.
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we of course know lar...

but the hong kong, taiwan and china people dont know....and it took me a very hard time trying to explain to them about malay and malaysian chinese difference....

end up some jst shrugged and say, 'haiya, so difficult, i jst call malay can already since malaysian = malay like how aussie = australian".
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From my experience, they mostly refer us (Malaysian-chinese) as
"大馬华侨 or 大馬人" (Taiwan)
*xi.ma.hua.qiao / xi.ma.ren*
or
"大馬华侨 or 大馬仔" (HK)
*dai.ma.wa.q / dai.ma.zai*

But most of them won't bother to ask unless you couldn't communicate with them. And Yes, many people in Hong Kong or Taiwan do know about Malaysia and Singapore.

Singaporean are mostly refer as
"新加坡人"
*xin.jia.po.ren* (Chinese)
*xing.ga.bo.yan* (HK)
or
"新馬人"
*xin.ma.ren* (Chinese)
*xing.ma.yan* (HK)

That is from my experience la =,= I never heard them call me "馬来仔" before...
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:47 PM)
That is why I said learn how to read Chinese characters. The Chinese characters from the advertisement are referring to Malay as in race/ethnic, not nationality.

Beside, if nationality they will use Malaysian, not Malay.
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not exactly...
when they kenot see the difference or aware of such difference between malaysian malay and malaysian chinese, they will lump all under malay...

like how we lump all australian as aussie ppl....
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we of course know lar...

but the hong kong, taiwan and china people dont know....and it took me a very hard time trying to explain to them about malay and malaysian chinese difference....

end up some jst shrugged and say, 'haiya, so difficult, i jst call malay can already since malaysian = malay like how aussie = australian".
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Who said they don't know. Actually, they refer the oversea Chinese as Huaren, not Malay.
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ini bodoh.ketidakmahuan anda untuk memahami maksud character itu bodoh. tak reti xpe tapi still dengan penatang panggilan karut marut korang tu
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From my experience, they mostly refer us (Malaysian-chinese) as
"大馬华侨 or 大馬人" (Taiwan)
*xi.ma.hua.qiao / xi.ma.ren*
or
"大馬华侨 or 大馬仔" (HK)
*dai.ma.wa.q / dai.ma.zai*

But most of them won't bother to ask unless you couldn't communicate with them. And Yes, many people in Hong Kong or Taiwan do know about Malaysia and Singapore.

Singaporean are mostly refer as
"新加坡人"
*xin.jia.po.ren* (Chinese)
*xing.ga.bo.yan* (HK)
or
"新馬人"
*xin.ma.ren* (Chinese)
*xing.ma.yan* (HK)

That is from my experience la =,= I never heard them call me "馬来仔" before...
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those that been to malaysia/singapore and aware of the ethnic difference know lar...

those first time traveller..all will lump us as malay....
it takes time to explain to them...or unless they are interested to know the difference and learn...

that's why when my HK and Taiwan friends came..they very surprised how we know which is indian and which is malay. cox to them, malay and indian look exactly the same. they need time to get used to looking at those faces..we have, but they havent.
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:45 PM)
That is why I said you are wrong when you think the Malay here refer to Malaysian nationality.
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But after some googling, it seems that the last 2 characters in that advert (xxx-xxx-ma-lai) is the same writing as our malaysia written in chinese (ma-lai-xi-ya)

So is there a different way to write in chinese, the term "malay" as in ethnicity, and as in nationality?
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not exactly...
when they kenot see the difference or aware of such difference between malaysian malay and malaysian chinese, they will lump all under malay...

like how we lump all australian as aussie ppl....
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read what AceKenedy say. You are totally clueless. Overseas Chinese are refer to as Huaren, NOT Malay.
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But after some googling, it seems that the last 2 characters in that advert (xxx-xxx-ma-lai) is the same writing as our malaysia written in chinese (ma-lai-xi-ya)

So is there a different way to write in chinese, the term "malay" as in ethnicity, and as in nationality?
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My Chinese is not good, but just read what Acekenedy said. Overseas Chinese regardless whether you come from Malaysia,Singapore,or America are call as Huaren.
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Who said they don't know. Actually, they refer the oversea Chinese as Huaren, not Malay.
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those that has been exposed to our ethnic difference know...

those 1st timer wont...to them, there is no chinese, malay and india in malaysia..

only malay.....

as in, only aussie in australia....no Torres Strait Islander or aboriginals.

our problem is, malay is a race as well.

Where as for others, it is not a race...but a name depicting citizen of that country.
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:55 PM)
those that has been exposed to our ethnic difference know...

those 1st timer wont...to them, there is no chinese, malay and india in malaysia..

only malay.....

as in, only aussie in australia....no Torres Strait Islander or aboriginals.

our problem is, malay is a race as well.

Where as for others, it is not a race...but a name depicting citizen of that country.
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Who said they don't know. They are aware that Singapore have ethnic Chinese. And for God's sake, they can tell which one is Chinese,Malay and Indian.

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read what AceKenedy say. You are totally clueless. Overseas Chinese are refer to as Huaren, NOT Malay.
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well....call that clueless or whatever you want. but the many hongkies, taiwanese and PRC friends i met 1st called me as malay....

maybe it's because i am exposed to alot more...hence i can see the difference. where as if u have only 1 info, u would insist that being right...until you're told of a 2nd info..then u realized, 'eh, actually got ppl think this way one'... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 03:57 PM)
well....call that clueless or whatever you want. but the many hongkies, taiwanese and PRC friends i met 1st called me as malay....

maybe it's because i am exposed to alot more...hence i can see the difference. where as if u have only 1 info, u would insist that being right...until you're told of a 2nd info..then u realized, 'eh, actually got ppl think this way one'...  brows.gif
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LOL! My younger brother university have students from China. I don't see them having problem differentiating or even label everyone as Malay.

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Who said they don't know. They are aware that Singapore have ethnic Chinese. And for God's sake, they can tell which one is Chinese,Malay and Indian.
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i beg to differ...

when i was in china....some of those prc ppl i came across, were surprised malaysia people can speak mandarin....they thought we only speak malaysian...i doubt they even know how malaysian language sounds like though, lol....

and when i was in taiwan, my taiwanese friends introduce me to their local friends..and they all say things like below :
"so you're a malay?"
"i didnt know malay people skin so fair. i thought it's spose to be darker"
"why is there a malaysian chinese? arent you malay? like australia = aussie? Malaysia = malay?"

yes..i have one helluva time explaining to them in multiple night markets spread across multiple days...

and when i was in HK..my friend's mum, thought we are Malay..until recently when TVB starts expanding their relationship with astro..only then they realized there are malaysian chinese who speaks mandarin, cantonese and hokkien hakka etc...
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LOL! My younger brother university have students from China. I don't see them having problem differentiating or even label everyone as Malay.
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like i said...once they are here for quite some time, they will know how to differentiate.

when you were small, does all korean look the same to you? but once you start seeing more of korean ppl, be it in mvies or series, ur mind starts differentiating them....and u can tell the difference liao.

i think this is common to everyone....like how some couldnt differentiate a F-14 with a F-15...until u start seeing them often, then u can see the different even trough it's cockpit.
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i beg to differ...

when i was in china....some of those prc ppl i came across, were surprised malaysia people can speak mandarin....they thought we only speak malaysian...i doubt they even know how malaysian language sounds like though, lol....

and when i was in taiwan, my taiwanese friends introduce me to their local friends..and they all say things like below :
"so you're a malay?"
"i didnt know malay people skin so fair. i thought it's spose to be darker"
"why is there a malaysian chinese? arent you malay? like australia = aussie? Malaysia = malay?"

yes..i have one helluva time explaining to them in multiple night markets spread across multiple days...

and when i was in HK..my friend's mum, thought we are Malay..until recently when TVB starts expanding their relationship with astro..only then they realized there are malaysian chinese who speaks mandarin, cantonese and hokkien hakka etc...
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They are also surprise when Chinese from America know how to speak Mandarin.

Oh, please. I've been to China and HK and I never face anything like that. At first glance, they will thought you are Chinese just like them. If you tell them you are from Malaysia, you just need to tell them you are ethnic Chinese from Malaysia, like Chinese from America. They will understand.
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:01 PM)


and when i was in taiwan, my taiwanese friends introduce me to their local friends..and they all say things like below :
"so you're a malay?"
"i didnt know malay people skin so fair. i thought it's spose to be darker"
"why is there a malaysian chinese? arent you malay? like australia = aussie? Malaysia = malay?"

yes..i have one helluva time explaining to them in multiple night markets spread across multiple days...

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Maybe because they had first met this guy before you :

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i remember there are few episodes of "step forward" where he went to taiwan la...
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:04 PM)
like i said...once they are here for quite some time, they will know how to differentiate.

when you were small, does all korean look the same to you? but once you start seeing more of korean ppl, be it in mvies or series, ur mind starts differentiating them....and u can tell the difference liao.

i think this is common to everyone....like how some couldnt differentiate a F-14 with a F-15...until u start seeing them often, then u can see the different even trough it's cockpit.
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Even if what you said here is true, which I don't as those Chinese are pretty knowledgeable about SEA, the fact remain those prostitutes are ethnic Malay girls.
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:07 PM)
They are also surprise when Chinese from America know how to speak Mandarin.

Oh, please. I've been to China and HK and I never face anything like that. At first glance, they will thought you are Chinese just like them. If you tell them you are from Malaysia, you just need to tell them you are ethnic Chinese from Malaysia, like Chinese from America. They will understand.
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that s why i said, if u tell them u are malaysian chinese, then they will get the idea. and if u go there, then of course they thought u are a chinese like them until u start talking without the local accent....

what i meant to say is, try to approach a tourist here in malaysia..and ask them what do they call local people of malaysia.

they will call you malay-ren in mandarin...because to them that is not being exposed to such difference, malay-ren = malaysian....

and again, like i have said, the problem with us malaysian is that..we combine race inside our country name.

put it this way...a malaysian chinese stand side by side with a PRC chinese. to most people..these 2 are chinese. But when malaysian chinese say they are from malaysia, the term chinese is being replaced with malay. hence it become one is chinese, another is malay ( to denote he is from malaysia).


Added : malay-ren in mandarin pin yin should be Ma Lai Ren.

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Ok, here's a clue for those who don't know Chinese. Malay,馬拉 here refer to ethnic.

If it's Malaysian, they will call us MalaySia, or something like that. Got add the word 'Sia' behind. Just Malaysian nationality, we add the word 'sian' there. The words 'Sia' in Chinese characters are not found there.
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Maybe because they had first met this guy before you :

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i remember there are few episodes of "step forward" where he went to taiwan la...
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hahaa...who s that guy actually? kekee....








QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:12 PM)
Even if what you said here is true, which I don't as those Chinese are pretty knowledgeable about SEA, the fact remain those prostitutes are ethnic Malay girls.
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well..whether those are ethic malay girl or not i have no idea ler.....but their thinking is malaysian of all race = malay...
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:15 PM)
Ok, here's a clue for those who don't know Chinese. Malay,馬拉 here refer to ethnic.

If it's Malaysian, they will call us MalaySia, or something like that. Got add the word 'Sia' behind. Just Malaysian nationality, we add the word 'sian' there. The words 'Sia' in Chinese characters are not found there.
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except sometimes, they replace the word sia with ren...

so end up we become Ma Lai Ren...instead of Ma Lai Sia Ren...

we are seeing it as malay people..but to them, it means we are malaysian people...think like them mang..think like them... sweat.gif
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that s why i said, if u tell them u are malaysian chinese, then they will get the idea. and if u go there, then of course they thought u are a chinese like them until u start talking without the local accent....

what i meant to say is, try to approach a tourist here in malaysia..and ask them what do they call local people of malaysia.

they will call you malay-ren in mandarin...because to them that is not being exposed to such difference, malay-ren = malaysian....

and again, like i have said, the problem with us malaysian is that..we combine race inside our country name.

put it this way...a malaysian chinese stand side by side with a PRC chinese. to most people..these 2 are chinese. But when malaysian chinese say they are from malaysia, the term chinese is being replaced with malay. hence it become one is chinese, another is malay ( to denote he is from malaysia).
Added : malay-ren in mandarin pin yin should be Ma Lai Ren.
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Dude, they don't refer you as malay-ren. Just for the record, overseas Chinese have always been refer to as Hua ren, not malay. They will call you malaysia-ren if you identify yourself as Chinese holding Malaysian citizenship.
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LOL!Why malay girl cheapest?
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wow! kinda cheap. jz rm90 only.
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:17 PM)
except sometimes, they replace the word sia with ren...

so end up we become Ma Lai Ren...instead of Ma Lai Sia Ren...

we are seeing it as malay people..but to them, it means we are malaysian people...think like them mang..think like them...  sweat.gif
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No, they don't. They just simply say malaysia ren. Just like mei guo, they call them mei guo ren. They use all full name.

Singapore=Xingjiapore ren
Malaysia=Malay Xia ren
and then you got mei guo ren.

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Dude, they don't refer you as malay-ren. Just for the record, overseas Chinese have always been refer to as Hua ren, not malay. They will call you malaysia-ren if you identify yourself as Chinese holding Malaysian citizenship.
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they do ler...
all i come across either call me as :

Ma Lai Sia Ren
or
Ma Lai Ren (short form)

They only call me Ma Lai Sia Hua Ren after i explained hours to them....to let them know the difference..
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No, they don't. They just simply say malaysia ren. Just like mei guo, they call them mei guo ren. They use all full name.
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ahh...yes yes, this is what i meant..

they will call us Ma Lai Sia Ren.....but in short form, it become Ma Lai Ren...

to them, both holds the same meaning....they dont know but to us, it is different...

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hahaa...who s that guy actually? kekee....
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huh? U dont know him? I thought he's pretty famous among malaysian chinese?

Baki zainal, 8tv host, speaks mandarin punya wor... Some chinese fren told me that his mandarin is even better than a regular chinese..
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:52 PM)
those that been to malaysia/singapore and aware of the ethnic difference know lar...

those first time traveller..all will lump us as malay....
it takes time to explain to them...or unless they are interested to know the difference and learn...

that's why when my HK and Taiwan friends came..they very surprised how we know which is indian and which is malay. cox to them, malay and indian look exactly the same. they need time to get used to looking at those faces..we have, but they havent.
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yeah, I'm not surprise if they label us msia-chinese as malay.
its just like what we did to those caucasian lo...dun care if you are aussie, american, britain...we just label them as "ang moh" can already laugh.gif

so far those people I met also know Malaysia n Singapore laugh.gif but very hard to say la, cuz not all of them know about us.

QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:52 PM)
But after some googling, it seems that the last 2 characters in that advert (xxx-xxx-ma-lai) is the same writing as our malaysia written in chinese (ma-lai-xi-ya)

So is there a different way to write in chinese, the term "malay" as in ethnicity, and as in nationality?
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Chinese = 华人 (Hua.Ren)

Overseas Chinese = 华侨 (Hua.Qiao)

Such as,
Indonesian Chinese = 印尼华侨 (Yin.Ni.Hua.Qiao)
Malaysian Chinese = 大馬华侨 (Da.Ma.Hua.Qiao)
Vietnam Chinese = 越南华侨 (Yue.Nan.Hua.Qiao)
Thailand Chinese = 泰国华侨 (Tai.Guo.Hua.Qiao)

But usually we just use the word "华侨" to label our brother/sisters from other places. (except for Taiwan,HK & China)
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:19 PM)
they do ler...
all i come across either call me as :

Ma Lai Sia Ren
or
Ma Lai Ren (short form)

They only call me Ma Lai Sia Hua Ren after i explained hours to them....to let them know the difference..
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ahh...yes yes, this is what i meant..

they will call us Ma Lai Sia Ren.....but in short form, it become Ma Lai Ren...

to them, both holds the same meaning....they dont know to us, it is different...
No, Chinese don't use short term. It's the same for Singapore. They call them xing jia por ren. Use all of them. mei guo is also full term.

By the way, someone from asian finest who got Hong Kong ancestry confirm those are indeed ethnic Malay.@post 23.

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my family is from hk and whether you want to accept it or not, there are malay and indonesians who work as prostitutes in hk. triads smuggle them because its close and relatively easy. also, a lot of hk business men get hookers from malaysia and other countries too. mad about that too? laugh.gif

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...ic=166120&st=20

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yeah, I'm not surprise if they label us msia-chinese as malay.

They never call me malay ren, they use full term malay xia ren. Beside, I'm sure if those are Chinese or Indian prostitutes from malaysia, they will call themselves as malay xia ren, not malay ren. Furthermore, it's all about marketing. No Chinese male customers will want an ethnic Chinese from Malaysia who look the same as Chinese prostitutes in their homeland.

QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 03:20 PM)
who dafuq selling themself cheap at HK while they can got more as prostitute in here(2.5HKD = RM1) doh.gif

and they wont label themself as malay, unless malay sold for higher price there
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Exactly, Malaysian Chinese will not label themselves as Malay. If they saw it, they will feel offended and told the boss and at least change it to Malaysian as we are more conscious about the difference.


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Ok, here's a solution i propose that we can end this discussion once and for all.

Each one of you here sponsor me rm1k each. I will buy a plane ticket, fly to hongkong and order that girl. We shall see then whether she is really our malaysian malay, or malaysian chinese or east malaysian or just indons being advertised as malaysian, and come back to present you all with my findings.

Ada bagus?
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 05:25 PM)
Ok, here's a solution i propose that we can end this discussion once and for all.

Each one of you here sponsor me rm1k each. I will buy a plane ticket, fly to hongkong and order that girl. We shall see then whether she is really our malaysian malay, or malaysian chinese or east malaysian or just indons being advertised as malaysian, and come back to present you all with my findings.

Ada bagus?
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lol, i go HK macam balik rumah only -__-

u sponsor me lagi bagus laugh.gif
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:21 PM)
huh? U dont know him? I thought he's pretty famous among malaysian chinese?

Baki zainal, 8tv host, speaks mandarin punya wor... Some chinese fren told me that his mandarin is even better than a regular chinese..
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QUOTE(AceKendy @ Feb 27 2013, 04:22 PM)
yeah, I'm not surprise if they label us msia-chinese as malay.
its just like what we did to those caucasian lo...dun care if you are aussie, american, britain...we just label them as "ang moh" can already laugh.gif

so far those people I met also know Malaysia n Singapore laugh.gif but very hard to say la, cuz not all of them know about us.
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:22 PM)
No, Chinese don't use short term. It's the same for Singapore. They call them xing jia por ren. Use all of them. mei guo is also full term.

By the way, someone from asian finest who got Hong Kong ancestry confirm those are indeed ethnic Malay.@post 23.
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...ic=166120&st=20
They never call me malay ren, they use full term malay xia ren. Beside, I'm sure if those are Chinese or Indian prostitutes from malaysia, they will call themselves as malay xia ren, not malay ren. Furthermore, it's all about marketing. No Chinese male customers will want an ethnic Chinese from Malaysia when they themselves can have Chinese prostitutes everywhere in their homeland.
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Yup. once they know the difference, they will call us malaysian chinese or singaporean chinese...but 1st timer will group all as malay for malaysian.

Oh, okok..so it is ethnic malay on thatr display.




QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:25 PM)
Ok, here's a solution i propose that we can end this discussion once and for all.

Each one of you here sponsor me rm1k each. I will buy a plane ticket, fly to hongkong and order that girl. We shall see then whether she is really our malaysian malay, or malaysian chinese or east malaysian or just indons being advertised as malaysian, and come back to present you all with my findings.

Ada bagus?
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this idea is prolly the best..but in order to ensure you're fair..u need someone else to go with you..so i suggest each give RM2k so we both go confirm.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:25 PM)
Ok, here's a solution i propose that we can end this discussion once and for all.

Each one of you here sponsor me rm1k each. I will buy a plane ticket, fly to hongkong and order that girl. We shall see then whether she is really our malaysian malay, or malaysian chinese or east malaysian or just indons being advertised as malaysian, and come back to present you all with my findings.

Ada bagus?
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They were in fact ethnic Malay. The will use the word malaysian instead of Malay girl. Beside, from male customers and business perspective, no point getting Chinese prostitute from Malaysia when you can get Chinese prostitute from China or Hong Kong itself which is just near to you.

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lol, i go HK macam balik rumah only -__-

u sponsor me lagi bagus laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:31 PM)
They were in fact ethnic Malay. The will use the word malaysian instead of Malay girl. Beside, from male customers perspective, no point getting Chinese prostitute from Malaysia when you can get Chinese prostitute from China or Hong Kong itself.
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i dont understand..why kenot get malaysian chinese? got different feel also wat.

else why bother if it is hong kong chinese or prc chinese or taiwan/macau chinese?

because to me, all chinese from those 5 countries got different 'flavor'...
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 05:31 PM)
aiks..i thought ur penang lang? only stay in sunway only?
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oh, what i mean by "go HK macam balik rumah" is that I travel to HK quite often tongue.gif
i'm penang lang aite laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:33 PM)
i dont understand..why kenot get malaysian chinese? got different feel also wat.

else why bother if it is hong kong chinese or prc chinese or taiwan/macau chinese?

because to me, all chinese from those 5 countries got different 'flavor'...
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Don't you understand the word exotic. Malay are more exotic to them than Malaysian Chinese and at the same time, more foreign feeling.

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QUOTE(AceKendy @ Feb 27 2013, 04:28 PM)
lol, i go HK macam balik rumah only -__-

u sponsor me lagi bagus laugh.gif
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Like going home?

U cannot eat and shit so near to home ma... Nanti kena busted.
I can find out the truth anonymously without having you the need to do the dirty job. whistling.gif
Win win apa... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 05:34 PM)
Like going home?

U cannot eat and shit so near to home ma... Nanti kena busted.
I can find out the truth anonymously without having you the need to do the dirty job.  whistling.gif
Win win apa...  thumbup.gif
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ok la, i sponser u rm300. the other rm700 u sendiri cari

tapi i mau tengok the video recording of u piap2-ing the so called "白净马拉" on HK. deal? brows.gif

oh btw, uncensored version and u need to write your lyn name on her bewbs laugh.gif

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oh, what i mean by "go HK macam balik rumah" is that I travel to HK quite often tongue.gif
i'm penang lang aite laugh.gif
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lucky u! but i encountered a couple bad service there....whenever i speak mandarin to them or they thought i am from prc. sweat.gif






QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:34 PM)
Don't you understand the word exotic.  Malay are more exotic to them than Malaysian Chinese.
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hmm....so long they let me piap, they are exotic and erotic to me liao... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:38 PM)
lucky u! but i encountered a couple bad service there....whenever i speak mandarin to them or they thought i am from prc.  sweat.gif
hmm....so long they let me piap, they are exotic and erotic to me liao... brows.gif
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Maybe to you, but not to them. Please correct me if I'm wrong, didn't we k/tard always say Malay girls got bigger nen nen than Chinese. brows.gif

If you read the OP again, one reason for demand for foreign prostitutes is because of exotic.

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Anyway, a seasoned cheongster told me that the PRCs we get here are either ayam pencen or really2 low grade ayam... He told me to follow him go to Dongguan because that'd where they can get first class ayams, got japanese looks, got korean looks, too many until cannot decide which ayam to take. his trips usually goes like a week, everyday only makan, tidur and fark different ayam each day and nite

Very tempting, But too bad i cant join, the expense easily breaches rm10k per trip is one thing, i am not doing business so i have no excuse to tell my wife for wat reason i go china... Pui.

Anyway i no longer main prc ayam locally... Viets gives better service and their bewbies usually bigger than those fake push up prcs. Oh wai this is not ricecooker forum...
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careful guys, 2" lipot u can bora
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:41 PM)
Anyway, a seasoned cheongster told me that the PRCs we get here are either ayam pencen or really2 low grade ayam... He told me to follow him go to Dongguan because that'd where they can get first class ayams, got japanese looks, got korean looks, too many until cannot decide which ayam to take. his trips usually goes like a week, everyday only makan, tidur and fark different ayam each day and nite

Very tempting, But too bad i cant join, the expense easily breaches rm10k per trip is one thing, i am not doing business so i have no excuse to tell my wife for wat reason i go china... Pui.

Anyway i no longer main prc ayam locally... Viets gives better service and their bewbies usually bigger than those fake push up prcs. Oh wai this is not ricecooker forum...
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yeah..I also heard similar things from my friend who frequently cheong. He said the PRC prostitute in Malaysia are just average.

I never cheong cause I got GF liao, don't want to hurt her feeling. Beside, I don't want to get AIDS.

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QUOTE(AceKendy @ Feb 27 2013, 04:38 PM)
ok la, i sponser u rm300. the other rm700 u sendiri cari

tapi i mau tengok the video recording of u piap2-ing the so called "白净马拉" on HK. deal? brows.gif

oh btw, uncensored version and u need to write your lyn name on her bewbs laugh.gif
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Good also, but u need to double it up la, mechwarrior also wana follow. At least i have another guy who can read chinese tag along. Hey maybe we can even do a gangbang video. Mech Warrior 6 let's tag team! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:40 PM)
Maybe to you, but not to them. Please correct me if I'm wrong, didn't we k/tard always say Malay girls got bigger nen nen than Chinese. brows.gif

If you read the OP again, one reason for demand for foreign prostitutes is because of exotic.
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hmm....this one about nen2..well...i need to go explore myself 1st to confirm.. brows.gif






QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:41 PM)
Anyway, a seasoned cheongster told me that the PRCs we get here are either ayam pencen or really2 low grade ayam... He told me to follow him go to Dongguan because that'd where they can get first class ayams, got japanese looks, got korean looks, too many until cannot decide which ayam to take. his trips usually goes like a week, everyday only makan, tidur and fark different ayam each day and nite

Very tempting, But too bad i cant join, the expense easily breaches rm10k per trip is one thing, i am not doing business so i have no excuse to tell my wife for wat reason i go china... Pui.

Anyway i no longer main prc ayam locally... Viets gives better service and their bewbies usually bigger than those fake push up prcs. Oh wai this is not ricecooker forum...
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got also lar..jst dpeend how much u willing to pay nia...

those in prc one also got good and bad quality..depending on how much ur willing to pay...
if u want ling zhi ling quality also got......very pretty with long legs slim fit body and big cups....jst depend u willing to spend or not only....
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 05:38 PM)
lucky u! but i encountered a couple bad service there....whenever i speak mandarin to them or they thought i am from prc.  sweat.gif
hmm....so long they let me piap, they are exotic and erotic to me liao... brows.gif
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i can speak their tongue ma laugh.gif
KL ppl here many also communicate in Cantonese geh, so i when i go HK they don't even bother to ask me which country i come from tongue.gif
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careful guys, 2" lipot u can bora
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okok....i wont share pricing like what ah wang once said..dont tell price then shud be fine d...





QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:44 PM)
Good also,  but u need to double it up la, mechwarrior also wana follow. At least i have another guy who can read chinese tag along. Hey maybe we can even do a gangbang video. Mech Warrior 6 let's tag team!  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 01:56 PM)
http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID...x-for-sale.aspx

Difference between Malaysia and China. In Malaysia, foreign prostitute mostly from China,SEA. In China, foreign prostitute mostly from Russia,Mongolia, Eastern Europe.
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Can anyone here post pictures of those PRC prostitutes in Malaysia? Want to check if pretty or not cause a lot of my friends said the PRC here not pretty and not worthy. Go there only to show off only to your friends and relatives only.

I also always heard K/tard always talk about them cheong here and there but never post drillz at all. Sometimes, I think they tok kok oni.

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Can anyone here post pictures of those PRC prostitutes in Malaysia? Want to check if pretty or not cause a lot of my friends said the PRC here not pretty and not worthy. Go there only to show off only to your friends and relatives only.

I also always heard K/tard always talk about them cheong here and there but never post drillz at all. Sometimes, I think they tok kok oni.
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no one will simply post one ler...most want barter... brows.gif
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no one will simply post one ler...most want barter...    brows.gif
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Can define k/tard dictionary of barter for me? I don't understand what it means.

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Can define k/tard dictionary of barter for me? I don't understand what it means.
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exhange pics...
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okok....i wont share pricing like what ah wang once said..dont tell price then shud be fine d...
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:51 PM)
Can anyone here post pictures of those PRC prostitutes in Malaysia? Want to check if pretty or not cause a lot of my friends said the PRC here not pretty and not worthy. Go there only to show off only to your friends and relatives only.

I also always heard K/tard always talk about them cheong here and there but never post drillz at all. Sometimes, I think they tok kok oni.
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Bcos this is /k and not rice cooker forum... U can always go to pudu at night, drive around and u will see them standing by roadside.
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Bcos this is /k and not rice cooker forum... U can always go to pudu at night, drive around and u will see them standing by roadside.
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hahaa..rice cooker forum..u put it so nicely...
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Bcos this is /k and not rice cooker forum... U can always go to pudu at night, drive around and u will see them standing by roadside.
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I see, next time if you drive can take pic and share it with k/tards?

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:51 PM)
Can anyone here post pictures of those PRC prostitutes in Malaysia? Want to check if pretty or not cause a lot of my friends said the PRC here not pretty and not worthy. Go there only to show off only to your friends and relatives only.

I also always heard K/tard always talk about them cheong here and there but never post drillz at all. Sometimes, I think they tok kok oni.
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most come here already 3rd grade one, bestest all in homeland
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take pics can post here will kena bora or not sin? hmm.gif

i this week got go down KL happy hour laugh.gif might be able to do some "community service" brows.gif
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QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Feb 27 2013, 05:16 PM)
most come here already 3rd grade one, bestest all in homeland
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Yeah, that's what I heard from my friends who frequently cheong.

QUOTE(AceKendy @ Feb 27 2013, 05:20 PM)
take pics can post here will kena bora or not sin?  hmm.gif

i this week got go down KL happy hour  laugh.gif might be able to do some "community service"  brows.gif
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Bro, can PM me the pic?

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take pics can post here will kena bora or not sin?  hmm.gif

i this week got go down KL happy hour  laugh.gif might be able to do some "community service"  brows.gif
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take pics can post here will kena bora or not sin?  hmm.gif

i this week got go down KL happy hour  laugh.gif might be able to do some "community service"  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 06:20 PM)
Bro, can PM me the pic?
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QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Feb 27 2013, 06:21 PM)
hope not at pudu  laugh.gif
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happy hour mostly at bukit bintang that area laugh.gif many escort there geh, so pass by can take pics lor tongue.gif

QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 06:22 PM)
no nekkid no bora2 one...
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haya, no need pm la. if i got go i take picture post lorh laugh.gif
no la, me not cheongster lai de.

happy hour mostly at bukit bintang that area laugh.gif many escort there geh, so pass by can take pics lor tongue.gif
ok, hope mod dont label me as bapa ayam and bora2 me brows.gif
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