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post Feb 27 2013, 04:02 PM

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"大馬华侨 or 大馬仔" (HK)
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Ada sama kah?

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post Feb 27 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 03:58 PM)
LOL! My younger brother university have students from China. I don't see them having problem differentiating or even label everyone as Malay.
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like i said...once they are here for quite some time, they will know how to differentiate.

when you were small, does all korean look the same to you? but once you start seeing more of korean ppl, be it in mvies or series, ur mind starts differentiating them....and u can tell the difference liao.

i think this is common to everyone....like how some couldnt differentiate a F-14 with a F-15...until u start seeing them often, then u can see the different even trough it's cockpit.
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post Feb 27 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Feb 27 2013, 02:26 PM)
Supply and demand bro

supply and demand... biggrin.gif
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Import and export la lol
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post Feb 27 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:01 PM)
i beg to differ...

when i was in china....some of those prc ppl i came across, were surprised malaysia people can speak mandarin....they thought we only speak malaysian...i doubt they even know how malaysian language sounds like though, lol....

and when i was in taiwan, my taiwanese friends introduce me to their local friends..and they all say things like below :
"so you're a malay?"
"i didnt know malay people skin so fair. i thought it's spose to be darker"
"why is there a malaysian chinese? arent you malay? like australia = aussie? Malaysia = malay?"

yes..i have one helluva time explaining to them in multiple night markets spread across multiple days...

and when i was in HK..my friend's mum, thought we are Malay..until recently when TVB starts expanding their relationship with astro..only then they realized there are malaysian chinese who speaks mandarin, cantonese and hokkien hakka etc...
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They are also surprise when Chinese from America know how to speak Mandarin.

Oh, please. I've been to China and HK and I never face anything like that. At first glance, they will thought you are Chinese just like them. If you tell them you are from Malaysia, you just need to tell them you are ethnic Chinese from Malaysia, like Chinese from America. They will understand.
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post Feb 27 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:01 PM)


and when i was in taiwan, my taiwanese friends introduce me to their local friends..and they all say things like below :
"so you're a malay?"
"i didnt know malay people skin so fair. i thought it's spose to be darker"
"why is there a malaysian chinese? arent you malay? like australia = aussie? Malaysia = malay?"

yes..i have one helluva time explaining to them in multiple night markets spread across multiple days...

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Maybe because they had first met this guy before you :

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i remember there are few episodes of "step forward" where he went to taiwan la...
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post Feb 27 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:04 PM)
like i said...once they are here for quite some time, they will know how to differentiate.

when you were small, does all korean look the same to you? but once you start seeing more of korean ppl, be it in mvies or series, ur mind starts differentiating them....and u can tell the difference liao.

i think this is common to everyone....like how some couldnt differentiate a F-14 with a F-15...until u start seeing them often, then u can see the different even trough it's cockpit.
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Even if what you said here is true, which I don't as those Chinese are pretty knowledgeable about SEA, the fact remain those prostitutes are ethnic Malay girls.
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post Feb 27 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:07 PM)
They are also surprise when Chinese from America know how to speak Mandarin.

Oh, please. I've been to China and HK and I never face anything like that. At first glance, they will thought you are Chinese just like them. If you tell them you are from Malaysia, you just need to tell them you are ethnic Chinese from Malaysia, like Chinese from America. They will understand.
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that s why i said, if u tell them u are malaysian chinese, then they will get the idea. and if u go there, then of course they thought u are a chinese like them until u start talking without the local accent....

what i meant to say is, try to approach a tourist here in malaysia..and ask them what do they call local people of malaysia.

they will call you malay-ren in mandarin...because to them that is not being exposed to such difference, malay-ren = malaysian....

and again, like i have said, the problem with us malaysian is that..we combine race inside our country name.

put it this way...a malaysian chinese stand side by side with a PRC chinese. to most people..these 2 are chinese. But when malaysian chinese say they are from malaysia, the term chinese is being replaced with malay. hence it become one is chinese, another is malay ( to denote he is from malaysia).


Added : malay-ren in mandarin pin yin should be Ma Lai Ren.

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post Feb 27 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:02 PM)
Ada sama kah?

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Ok, here's a clue for those who don't know Chinese. Malay,馬拉 here refer to ethnic.

If it's Malaysian, they will call us MalaySia, or something like that. Got add the word 'Sia' behind. Just Malaysian nationality, we add the word 'sian' there. The words 'Sia' in Chinese characters are not found there.
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:11 PM)
Maybe because they had first met this guy before you :

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i remember there are few episodes of "step forward" where he went to taiwan la...
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hahaa...who s that guy actually? kekee....








QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:12 PM)
Even if what you said here is true, which I don't as those Chinese are pretty knowledgeable about SEA, the fact remain those prostitutes are ethnic Malay girls.
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well..whether those are ethic malay girl or not i have no idea ler.....but their thinking is malaysian of all race = malay...
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:15 PM)
Ok, here's a clue for those who don't know Chinese. Malay,馬拉 here refer to ethnic.

If it's Malaysian, they will call us MalaySia, or something like that. Got add the word 'Sia' behind. Just Malaysian nationality, we add the word 'sian' there. The words 'Sia' in Chinese characters are not found there.
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except sometimes, they replace the word sia with ren...

so end up we become Ma Lai Ren...instead of Ma Lai Sia Ren...

we are seeing it as malay people..but to them, it means we are malaysian people...think like them mang..think like them... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:13 PM)
that s why i said, if u tell them u are malaysian chinese, then they will get the idea. and if u go there, then of course they thought u are a chinese like them until u start talking without the local accent....

what i meant to say is, try to approach a tourist here in malaysia..and ask them what do they call local people of malaysia.

they will call you malay-ren in mandarin...because to them that is not being exposed to such difference, malay-ren = malaysian....

and again, like i have said, the problem with us malaysian is that..we combine race inside our country name.

put it this way...a malaysian chinese stand side by side with a PRC chinese. to most people..these 2 are chinese. But when malaysian chinese say they are from malaysia, the term chinese is being replaced with malay. hence it become one is chinese, another is malay ( to denote he is from malaysia).
Added : malay-ren in mandarin pin yin should be Ma Lai Ren.
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Dude, they don't refer you as malay-ren. Just for the record, overseas Chinese have always been refer to as Hua ren, not malay. They will call you malaysia-ren if you identify yourself as Chinese holding Malaysian citizenship.
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 02:20 PM)
LOL!Why malay girl cheapest?
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wow! kinda cheap. jz rm90 only.
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post Feb 27 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:17 PM)
except sometimes, they replace the word sia with ren...

so end up we become Ma Lai Ren...instead of Ma Lai Sia Ren...

we are seeing it as malay people..but to them, it means we are malaysian people...think like them mang..think like them...  sweat.gif
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No, they don't. They just simply say malaysia ren. Just like mei guo, they call them mei guo ren. They use all full name.

Singapore=Xingjiapore ren
Malaysia=Malay Xia ren
and then you got mei guo ren.

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post Feb 27 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:17 PM)
Dude, they don't refer you as malay-ren. Just for the record, overseas Chinese have always been refer to as Hua ren, not malay. They will call you malaysia-ren if you identify yourself as Chinese holding Malaysian citizenship.
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they do ler...
all i come across either call me as :

Ma Lai Sia Ren
or
Ma Lai Ren (short form)

They only call me Ma Lai Sia Hua Ren after i explained hours to them....to let them know the difference..
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Feb 27 2013, 04:18 PM)
No, they don't. They just simply say malaysia ren. Just like mei guo, they call them mei guo ren. They use all full name.
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ahh...yes yes, this is what i meant..

they will call us Ma Lai Sia Ren.....but in short form, it become Ma Lai Ren...

to them, both holds the same meaning....they dont know but to us, it is different...

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post Feb 27 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:16 PM)
hahaa...who s that guy actually? kekee....
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huh? U dont know him? I thought he's pretty famous among malaysian chinese?

Baki zainal, 8tv host, speaks mandarin punya wor... Some chinese fren told me that his mandarin is even better than a regular chinese..
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:52 PM)
those that been to malaysia/singapore and aware of the ethnic difference know lar...

those first time traveller..all will lump us as malay....
it takes time to explain to them...or unless they are interested to know the difference and learn...

that's why when my HK and Taiwan friends came..they very surprised how we know which is indian and which is malay. cox to them, malay and indian look exactly the same. they need time to get used to looking at those faces..we have, but they havent.
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yeah, I'm not surprise if they label us msia-chinese as malay.
its just like what we did to those caucasian lo...dun care if you are aussie, american, britain...we just label them as "ang moh" can already laugh.gif

so far those people I met also know Malaysia n Singapore laugh.gif but very hard to say la, cuz not all of them know about us.

QUOTE(suicai99 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:52 PM)
But after some googling, it seems that the last 2 characters in that advert (xxx-xxx-ma-lai) is the same writing as our malaysia written in chinese (ma-lai-xi-ya)

So is there a different way to write in chinese, the term "malay" as in ethnicity, and as in nationality?
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Chinese = 华人 (Hua.Ren)

Overseas Chinese = 华侨 (Hua.Qiao)

Such as,
Indonesian Chinese = 印尼华侨 (Yin.Ni.Hua.Qiao)
Malaysian Chinese = 大馬华侨 (Da.Ma.Hua.Qiao)
Vietnam Chinese = 越南华侨 (Yue.Nan.Hua.Qiao)
Thailand Chinese = 泰国华侨 (Tai.Guo.Hua.Qiao)

But usually we just use the word "华侨" to label our brother/sisters from other places. (except for Taiwan,HK & China)
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:19 PM)
they do ler...
all i come across either call me as :

Ma Lai Sia Ren
or
Ma Lai Ren (short form)

They only call me Ma Lai Sia Hua Ren after i explained hours to them....to let them know the difference..
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ahh...yes yes, this is what i meant..

they will call us Ma Lai Sia Ren.....but in short form, it become Ma Lai Ren...

to them, both holds the same meaning....they dont know to us, it is different...
No, Chinese don't use short term. It's the same for Singapore. They call them xing jia por ren. Use all of them. mei guo is also full term.

By the way, someone from asian finest who got Hong Kong ancestry confirm those are indeed ethnic Malay.@post 23.

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my family is from hk and whether you want to accept it or not, there are malay and indonesians who work as prostitutes in hk. triads smuggle them because its close and relatively easy. also, a lot of hk business men get hookers from malaysia and other countries too. mad about that too? laugh.gif

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...ic=166120&st=20

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yeah, I'm not surprise if they label us msia-chinese as malay.

They never call me malay ren, they use full term malay xia ren. Beside, I'm sure if those are Chinese or Indian prostitutes from malaysia, they will call themselves as malay xia ren, not malay ren. Furthermore, it's all about marketing. No Chinese male customers will want an ethnic Chinese from Malaysia who look the same as Chinese prostitutes in their homeland.

QUOTE(izutaisa @ Feb 27 2013, 03:20 PM)
who dafuq selling themself cheap at HK while they can got more as prostitute in here(2.5HKD = RM1) doh.gif

and they wont label themself as malay, unless malay sold for higher price there
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Exactly, Malaysian Chinese will not label themselves as Malay. If they saw it, they will feel offended and told the boss and at least change it to Malaysian as we are more conscious about the difference.


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post Feb 27 2013, 04:25 PM

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Ok, here's a solution i propose that we can end this discussion once and for all.

Each one of you here sponsor me rm1k each. I will buy a plane ticket, fly to hongkong and order that girl. We shall see then whether she is really our malaysian malay, or malaysian chinese or east malaysian or just indons being advertised as malaysian, and come back to present you all with my findings.

Ada bagus?
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LOL thread derailed because of one sign

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