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ZeroSP
post Oct 23 2013, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(muyo @ Oct 22 2013, 11:56 PM)
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Polish can be very confused as many people will ask the detailer how many steps you will do? When they say "STEPS" means washing is a step, clay also a step, polish also a step, remove tar also step, waxing also step bla bla all add together will have more than 10steps!!! What they mean is just how many steps they will do to your car. And another famous question from the customer. "HOW MANY LAYER"??? These 2 make a huge different. Waxing can count as layer, polish can count as layer too but how will ended up 3-5layers? Simple, in correcting (polishing) your paint before we start, they will inspect your paint and see what polishing method required. If you are looking for a optimum result such as (swirl free, watermark free or scratch-less, mirror finish, glossy) this might need about 4steps of polishing routine which is below

COMPOUNDING - This step is aggressive as it will cut off a thin layer of clear coat to remove defects, swirls, water mark and etc. However it will look cloudy and has very tiny marring left over. This step is mostly make the big difference in the polishing cycle. But, we still need to refine the marring that left over.

CUTTING - This step is to remove the marring which had been compounded, but still the surface will look slightly cloudy, if the car is place under the sun (especially black car) you'll still will spot hologram aka Buffing Trials

POLISH - To enhance the gloss, polish provide light cut to make the surface look more glossy. This step will eliminate the buffing trials to create depth and clearer clarity on the surface. If your car have light swirls, polish is enough to remove most of the light swirls/defects.

FINISHING/GLAZING - This step has a lighter cut than polish, doesnt have any ability to cut the paint, this step is to make your car look more extra wet and glossy. However finishing polish has filler inside which will cover all the swirls. Once your car wash off the swirls will be spotted just like a girl putting foundation on her face.
So all these layer can count as 4 layer polish on the paint and waxing another layer so total is 5layer polish and wax.

Waxing is a protection, it has UV block, protects against harsh elements, easy to wash, water will glides so your surface will look clean and glossy compare to a car which has naked protection the car will look dirty and the dirt will stick on it easily after rain. However in our weather, you need to apply quite frequently as wax will melts in our hot country, best is park under basement so it will last longer.

Another famous question from customer.. how long wax will last? I cant really tell you how long it will last, it depends where you park your car, what your car expose to and how often you wash your car, all these will affect the durability of the wax. But if you say which is the best wax on the shelf i would say synthetic wax last longer than carnauba wax. Although I like the gloss from the carnauba but it doesnt last, I would prefer synthetic.
How long you need to polish? This will depend how particular and how much you love your car. If a well maintained car doesnt need to keep polish. But I will say no matter how careful you wash the car it still will have a few tiny hair line scratch but is not visible that much, if you find your car have these hair lines, a light polish would be best to remove them as they are not deep like scratches. You need to sacrifice some time to maintain your car if you want to have a glossy, handsome smart car. Same goes to girls they sacrifice their time every night just to maintain their faces. You need to know a car doesnt have much of clear coat for you keep polish, a girl face cant scrub everytime too if not their skin will peel off, so the best way to have a good looking car is to maintain it after you polish. Hope it helps and thanks for reading.
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QUOTE(muyo @ Oct 23 2013, 12:19 AM)
bring your own washing cloth and drying towel to them. maybe can reduce swirling.
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post Oct 23 2013, 09:05 AM

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Polishing/compounding - removal of oxidation, swirls, water spotting, minor scratches, etc. i.e. defects so that the paintwork would shine, gloss and look it's best. These are the actual step(s) that would define the level of shine/gloss of the paint.

Wax - to apply a layer of (temporary) protection onto the paint so as to protect it from the environment, harsh weather, etc. and minimise premature failure of the clear coat/paint.

But, in real world (at most detailing/car wash shops) the terms polishing and waxing are used interchangeably.
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post Oct 23 2013, 03:26 PM

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Wanna Ask all sifu here. Where can I buy detailing brush? The one that we use for interior detailing. looks like paint brush...don't know where to get it
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post Oct 23 2013, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(hazardouzz @ Oct 23 2013, 03:26 PM)
Wanna Ask all sifu here. Where can I buy detailing brush? The one that we use for interior detailing. looks like paint brush...don't know where to get it
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Hi,

Do consider this detailing brush from Valet Pro. It made with pig hair, not recommended for muslim buddies. Or else you can get a paint brush instead. And try look for another detailing brush which made with horse hair.

Valet pro detailing brush[U]
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post Oct 23 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Oct 23 2013, 03:40 AM)
Glad to see you here bro muyo.
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I was really left out in the forum. Only find some time to have a look. Haha!
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post Oct 24 2013, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(muyo @ Oct 23 2013, 08:43 PM)
Hi,

Do consider this detailing brush from Valet Pro. It made with pig hair, not recommended for muslim buddies. Or else you can get a paint brush instead. And try look for another detailing brush which made with horse hair.

Valet pro detailing brush[U]
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Cannot buy that since I'm a Muslim. Can suggest shop that sell detailing brush made from horse hair? Thanx
TSKrisMas
post Oct 24 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(hazardouzz @ Oct 23 2013, 03:26 PM)
Wanna Ask all sifu here. Where can I buy detailing brush? The one that we use for interior detailing. looks like paint brush...don't know where to get it
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If you mean something like those couple of round brushes that you see in the pic below, I got those from a hardware shop that sells paint & paint accessories, 3 for RM10. They're not as durable but they worked just fine and aren't boars hair.

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post Oct 24 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Oct 24 2013, 03:20 PM)
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eh bro just pm'd you tongue.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 24 2013, 03:43 PM)
eh bro just pm'd you tongue.gif
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Nothing. Digital postmen on strike...???? tongue.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Oct 24 2013, 04:17 PM)
Nothing. Digital postmen on strike...???? tongue.gif
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eh your inbox with the same "Detailers Gathering" subject tarak? should have notification/highlight lol
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post Oct 24 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 24 2013, 04:23 PM)
eh your inbox with the same "Detailers Gathering" subject tarak? should have notification/highlight lol
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Nada...yillek... sweat.gif last one was Oct 17 2013, 10:05 PM.
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post Oct 24 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Oct 24 2013, 07:59 PM)
Nada...yillek... sweat.gif last one was Oct 17 2013, 10:05 PM.
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correct la! you haven't reply me sad.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(hazardouzz @ Oct 24 2013, 01:37 AM)
Cannot buy that since I'm a Muslim. Can suggest shop that sell detailing brush made from horse hair? Thanx
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Daiso has brushes that do not use boar hairs - you can find them in the MV outlet.
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post Oct 27 2013, 12:58 AM

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Guys recently keep raining, how do u maintain ur car? Dry ur car then use quick detailer?
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post Oct 27 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Oct 27 2013, 12:58 AM)
Guys recently keep raining, how do u maintain ur car? Dry ur car then use quick detailer?
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Wash with shampoo, dont just clean with QD, that will scratch the paint. Will suggest rinse down the car and wash with shampoo and dry it. I usually do this after rain. Sometimes the rain bring down alot contaminant to the paint, for safer method will suggest you wash the car with shampoo.

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post Oct 27 2013, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(muyo @ Oct 27 2013, 04:33 PM)
Wash with shampoo, dont just clean with QD, that will scratch the paint. Will suggest rinse down the car and wash with shampoo and dry it. I usually do this after rain. Sometimes the rain bring down alot contaminant to the paint, for safer method will suggest you wash the car with shampoo.
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if it rained and washed most of the dirt, assuming the car was previous well waxed and within a week's time or so, doing with QD should be fine as it has lubricating properties in it

there is a reason why people generally recommend QD as clay lube, no?
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post Oct 27 2013, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 27 2013, 06:36 PM)
if it rained and washed most of the dirt, assuming the car was previous well waxed and within a week's time or so, doing with QD should be fine as it has lubricating properties in it

there is a reason why people generally recommend QD as clay lube, no?
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let say outside is raining now and i just arrived home , do i direct spray the QD and wipe off with microfiber or dry it up first only QD ?


Or let it overnight and dry itself , only QD next day ?

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post Oct 27 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Oct 27 2013, 07:35 PM)
let say outside is raining now and i just arrived home , do i direct spray the QD and wipe off with microfiber or dry it up first only QD ?
Or let it overnight and dry itself , only QD next day ?
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directly spray while it is wet is fine. better that way actually, aids in drying too biggrin.gif

if leave overnight, whatever dirt/contaminants the rain bring will solidify on your car and it'll be even harder to get rid of it. and what muyo said earlier will be more of a concern.
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post Oct 27 2013, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 27 2013, 08:16 PM)
directly spray while it is wet is fine. better that way actually, aids in drying too biggrin.gif

if leave overnight, whatever dirt/contaminants the rain bring will solidify on your car and it'll be even harder to get rid of it. and what muyo said earlier will be more of a concern.
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If whole week raining , i have to wash my car each time i back from town? cry.gif
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post Oct 27 2013, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Oct 27 2013, 09:03 PM)
If whole week raining , i have to wash my car each time i back from town?  cry.gif
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with good LSP (wax/coating etc) rain water hardly sticks on the car and after a mere simple drive the air drag/wind resistance will blow any remaining water beads away laugh.gif

so nah, not exactly.
though if you're already doing weekly car washes, i don't see how it's a problem to just wait a few days despite being rainy season.

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