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mav3rick
post Mar 25 2013, 11:40 AM

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ahahaha.. wahhh... this is too big of an honour for a noobie like me.. should be reserved for more seasoned bros.. biggrin.gif

anyway, we're all here to learn smile.gif i'll try to see what i can do.. but so far only Quazacolt and bro MyWifeCar interested?

p/s now i know what bigfoot you guys are talking about.. hohoho.. biggrin.gif

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TSKrisMas
post Mar 25 2013, 11:58 AM

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Aiyo....sure it's not clear coat peeling off ah???? Hopefully not la.

Some times water etchings can also look something like what you described....something like the pic below, but imagine just the edges without the whitish inside (like when you stick a thin plastic onto something, you can see the edges but the rest are transparent).

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post Mar 25 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Mar 25 2013, 11:40 AM)
ahahaha.. wahhh... this is too big of an honour for a noobie like me.. should be reserved for more seasoned bros.. biggrin.gif

anyway, we're all here to learn smile.gif i'll try to see what i can do.. but so far only Quazacolt and bro MyWifeCar interested?

p/s now i know what bigfoot you guys are talking about.. hohoho.. biggrin.gif
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3 or 4 people is enough, krismas will have problem shouting loud to everyone. laugh.gif

BigFoot is a DA from http://www.rupes.com/. It is indeed a very nice tool to use.


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post Mar 25 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Mar 25 2013, 11:40 AM)
ahahaha.. wahhh... this is too big of an honour for a noobie like me.. should be reserved for more seasoned bros.. biggrin.gif

anyway, we're all here to learn smile.gif i'll try to see what i can do.. but so far only Quazacolt and bro MyWifeCar interested?
Open table here la....the more the merrier.....

If you get a few more people from here, we might just do a 'small' get-together with the rest of the kakis as well....been a while since the last session. So there'll be plenty of people to share and guide. I might be able to help out to find a 'suitable' venue...
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post Mar 25 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Mar 25 2013, 11:58 AM)
Aiyo....sure it's not clear coat peeling off ah???? Hopefully not la.

Some times water etchings can also look something like what you described....something like the pic below, but imagine just the edges without the whitish inside (like when you stick a thin plastic onto something, you can see the edges but the rest are transparent).

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Hard to explain in words, as my detailing terms are not that good.

Mine is more like the tree sap things, but patches and patches. But I do managed to remove it using OHC, and my pad from Rupes is torn like what you have shown previously. sad.gif Think it is due to dampness.
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post Mar 25 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Mar 25 2013, 12:05 PM)
Hard to explain in words, as my detailing terms are not that good.

Mine is more like the tree sap things, but patches and patches. But I do managed to remove it using OHC, and my pad from Rupes is torn like what you have shown previously. sad.gif  Think it is due to dampness.
Picture would be nice...maybe you can capture those patches with 'proper' camera and lighting or something....

Owh....so Bigfoot got a chuck of your pad as well eh....? I've narrowed it down to 3 most possible cause:

1. Overheating of the pad due to dampness (I mean the whole pad is damp, like after wash and spin dry only....)
2. Too much pressure (remember NO PRESSURE at all when using the Bigfoot)
3. Tilting the pad while polishing or when polishing curvy panels (though this only applies to non-rupes pad whereby the velcro portion is larger than the backing plate)

The last two most probably happen because the edge of the backing plate 'eating' into the back of the pad while it's spinning/oscillating.....just a little un-sceintific observations.....
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post Mar 25 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Mar 25 2013, 11:59 AM)
3 or 4 people is enough, krismas will have problem shouting loud to everyone. laugh.gif

BigFoot is a DA from http://www.rupes.com/. It is indeed a very nice tool to use.
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lol.. i agree with you as well.. but as bro krismas mentioned, the more the merrier mer.. biggrin.gif

very nice tool you have there, not to mention $$$$ tongue.gif


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Mar 25 2013, 12:02 PM)
Open table here la....the more the merrier.....

If you get a few more people from here, we might just do a 'small' get-together with the rest of the kakis as well....been a while since the last session. So there'll be plenty of people to share and guide. I might be able to help out to find a 'suitable' venue...
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i like that idea.. i've never met with anyone in person from this forum anyway.. smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 03:32 PM

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krismas or mav3rick

Suggest to come up with a date and time that both of you can make it, please?


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post Mar 26 2013, 09:53 AM

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Exept for 21st, any Sundays in the months of April is fine with me.....if Sundays not approriate and want to make it on Saturdays then I'd need to make prior arrangements cuz my kids got Taekwondo class in the morning....not a big problem though....
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post Mar 26 2013, 10:08 AM

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Wha got detailing class? drool.gif

Can i join? tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2013, 10:20 AM

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If nobody can bring along a DA, I could bring my Meguairs G220v2 along if the date is set and I could make it.
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post Mar 26 2013, 10:32 AM

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ahhhh wax by hand damn tiring larrrr -.- is there good tools to recommend? biggrin.gif

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post Mar 26 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Mar 26 2013, 10:20 AM)
If nobody can bring along a DA, I could bring my Meguairs G220v2 along if the date is set and I could make it.
Long time no see bro. Of course la....I was going to borrow the one from Alvin...but if you can make it then no need to do that la.

QUOTE(acefreakz @ Mar 26 2013, 10:32 AM)
ahhhh wax by hand damn tiring larrrr -.- is there good tools to recommend? biggrin.gif
For waxing only....the B&D or any cheap random orbital buffer would do tongue.gif (preferably with velcro backing plate la).
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Hm.. Alvin? From Megs? I need to see the date first, I'm currently no longer based in Klang Valley so I need to see how the arrangement goes.
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post Mar 26 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Mar 26 2013, 02:20 PM)
Hm.. Alvin? From Megs? I need to see the date first, I'm currently no longer based in Klang Valley so I need to see how the arrangement goes.
Oooppss....sorry. I don't think you know Alvin...not from Megs, just one of the kakis but came in later. I see that you're still active....good...good...hehehe...
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Eneos @ Aeon Kepong is selling Autoglym products.

Long time never see Autoglym biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2013, 06:03 PM

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hi,
i have difficulties to find a very good car wash centre here in KL...do you guys have any good car wash recommendation? Looking near area Bukit Jalil and Gasing Indah area nearby....

Appreciate your sharing...
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post Mar 26 2013, 06:16 PM

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For waxing only....the B&D or any cheap random orbital buffer would do  (preferably with velcro backing plate la).


hihi bro~ ace hardware got sell? biggrin.gif thanks! if yes gonna get it this weekend xd~~~
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post Mar 26 2013, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Mar 26 2013, 04:52 PM)
Oooppss....sorry. I don't think you know Alvin...not from Megs, just one of the kakis but came in later. I see that you're still active....good...good...hehehe...
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Oh.. Yeah.. I've never really met up with the "group"before, I'm still active, just, less time/effort spent on it these days, looks like I have G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) these days instead laugh.gif I seem to have most of the "trending" gears bar the Rupes.

QUOTE(ir5 @ Mar 26 2013, 06:03 PM)
hi,
i have difficulties to find a very good car wash centre here in KL...do you guys have any good car wash recommendation? Looking near area Bukit Jalil and Gasing Indah area nearby....

Appreciate your sharing...
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A very good car wash is one where you DIY, well, that's really on a serious note, most "centres" are "mass production houses" where the main priority is to get the most customers in a day, and no matter how highly rated they seemed to be, I still feel most are sub-par, maybe I set my own level a little too high considering I do all my cars myself. Rinseless washes are pretty common these days, even if you live in a condo/apartment, as long as you have a roof over the car, it's pretty easy to do, and when you're getting good at it, 30 minutes is what it takes to wash and wax it.

QUOTE(acefreakz @ Mar 26 2013, 06:16 PM)
hihi bro~ ace hardware got sell? biggrin.gif thanks! if yes gonna get it this weekend xd~~~
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Ace Hardware should have the Bosch Random Orbital Sander, You'll need to look for the AE version which provides variable speed. Current model is GEX-125AE if not mistaken. In fact, you could try hardware shops, probably give you a better offer. I would skip the Black & Decker unless you can get a used one for dirt cheap and modify it's backing plate. I've tried doing that(long ago when I got started), but still felt it's not really worth the hassle. Technological improvement to polishing liquids and pads these days have brought new life to hobbyist just armed with a ROB.

There's also an alternative, though, I hadn't tried it so I can't really comment on it. There's a local paint brand that goes by the name of "Aikka" that has their tools reasonably priced, last I checked, the Dual Action they are selling is around RM400-450, just slightly more than the Bosch which costs around RM350.

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post Mar 26 2013, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(ir5 @ Mar 26 2013, 06:03 PM)
hi,
i have difficulties to find a very good car wash centre here in KL...do you guys have any good car wash recommendation? Looking near area Bukit Jalil and Gasing Indah area nearby....

Appreciate your sharing...
I'm a little bit particular and sensitive when it comes to 'car washes'. Could you please define 'good' in term of your expectations. Thanks.

QUOTE(acefreakz @ Mar 26 2013, 06:16 PM)
hihi bro~ ace hardware got sell? biggrin.gif thanks! if yes gonna get it this weekend xd~~~
I was really being a little bit cynical there...since you did only mention waxing...cuz that's all the B&D is really useful for. But then, you can't really expect it to do much at that specifications and price tag.

And bro GRexer is right, if you think you would be able to maintain the passion (or even would consider getting to a little higher level of doing some mild corrections) and don't mind spending a little more $$$, the Bosch 'AE' model random orbital would be a much better choice. You'd have more options for 'upgrades' in terms of compounds/polishes and buffing pads. A Dual Action (DA) would be another step higher than the Bosch, with more power and capabilities while retaining the 'safety' of a random orbital. 'Aikka' has a China made DA which is little lesser in term of quality as compared to the 'branded' ones, but it's still 'workable' (but not sure about it's reliability though cuz only tried it once and that is at a dealer's place). A 'branded' DA would cost around RM750 ~ RM850 (excluding the local G220v2 which is in four figures range). I think you've already strike the rotary out of your mind so I don't think I'd need to say anything about that.

Just one last word, although not as good, a cheap machine would work if you don't really plan to go dead serious or particular about it (unlike some of the crazy people here....tongue.gif). But you do have to remember, just like other trades/machines, quality does come at a price and the better machines are, more than often enough, better in performance and reliability. Choose whichever that suits you and your budget.

oh...and ACE Hardware got both the Bosch and B&D.

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