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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB v40, Fast, faster, fasterer, fastererer :x

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post Mar 3 2013, 02:17 PM

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my latest fc, kl-penang- with avg speed 110 120
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post Mar 3 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Hantu641 @ Mar 3 2013, 12:23 PM)
Good morning guys,
i quite amazed by the speed of this tread..my 1st question of my car already long gone..lol..
as maybe some of u can remember, i just got my new car that is standard auto flx,
the best suggestion to upgrade my car is from bro reapers that is strut bar, lcp, steel braided brake hose and better tyre..
so need some info about which brand of petrol the best for saga and need some help of choosing car tint..

p/s: my father bought me the car for me, he payed dp, left the car for me..im there just sign the paper and drive away..lol, im sux, never have time to ask much about the car with the car seller..
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can try gc n vs
welcome n test drive my car laugh.gif
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post Mar 3 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Mar 3 2013, 03:26 PM)
wow thats very good bro... how old you car?  thumbup.gif
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SAGA BLM 2008 biggrin.gif
and with mirror modification
and must use PETRONAS to achieve it (tested with petron, caltex few time and got avg)
shell i banned
only bhp i havent test out yet unsure.gif
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post Mar 3 2013, 02:51 PM

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anyone tried out 0w-20 engine oil?
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post Mar 4 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Mar 3 2013, 11:58 PM)
time to plan to change mirror...  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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change to prius"s mirror laugh.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2013, 02:37 PM)
it's OK luke, non FLXers or BLMers can feel free to comment. Like the BLMer below
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except SCVT from toyota altis drool.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Mar 9 2013, 01:20 PM)
Review time.

Throttle response test method: at idle, step on throttle and see how fast the tacho reacts. My assessment? No improvement whatsoever. Which is actually fine because it doesn't mess with my heel and toe timing which I've practised over the past few months.

But yes, the car feels different. Not dramatically, but in a subtle way. In low gears it's smoother than before. No more jerk jerk jerk nonsense in slow traffic. At first I thought the air cond compressor jerk was eliminated, but after paying careful attention it's still there, but slightly reduced. The car is more enjoyable to drive in traffic. Previously, shifting from first to second requires perfect timing, otherwise there will be a jerk. But now I noticed it's much easier to shift without the jerk, I don't have to concentrate so hard any more.

There could be a reason that my throttle response hasn't improved. I remember the very first time YAB drove my car, he said my throttle response was one of the best of all the Gagas he's tried. So maybe mine can't be improved any further. But I've been reading that for best results the grounding cable should be paired with a voltage stabiliser. That's what YAB and I hope to test next week.

I filled my tank exactly a week ago and got 7.6L/100km, between then and now I've done about 230 km and I estimate my next fill will be similar, so don't hope for miracles there. I've been driving with a very light foot and high vacuum to see how much I can squeeze out of one tank in jam crazy Penang (remember, 70 km/h on the left lane) and so I haven't had the chance to test high end power delivery yet. Maybe after next week.

I noticed that the hole of the lug for the negative terminal is not much smaller than the nut that holds it, so I found a small washer to insert between the nut and the lug so that the nut doesn't shear through the soft copper lug. I would suggest the rest of you do the same too. I also sandpapered the contacts to make them cleaner.

For RM 20 and a bit more for shipping, this ground cable is a worthy purchase.
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i think if want to eliminate the ac jerk, the only way is change to denso alternator brows.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2013, 09:08 PM)
You sure anot, RealMan™? better than Super-ECT 4AT?

After repeatedly making general sweeping statements condemning all CVTs, why the exception now?
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no TM la.haha
I prefer the logic in toyota gearbox
That is it. smile.gif

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 9 2013, 11:05 PM)
was promoted with a grounding cable during pedal lock installation today.
it costs rm130 for a piece of cable!! icon_question.gif shocking.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(animekrazey @ Mar 9 2013, 11:46 PM)
could i interject with a quick question

I'm driving a 1.6se and at 25litres i can travel about 240kms

Is that normal?
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9.6km/l smile.gif
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post Mar 10 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 10 2013, 09:46 PM)
- saja + tak berani. Lol. Btw + also dunno sambung where.
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just jack up ur car and "sleep "under ur engine bay
u will saw the + port with plastic cap smile.gif

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post Mar 10 2013, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 10 2013, 09:24 PM)
why u wan? lolz

btw, juz kao time, my alternator ular oren and double VS now....

Voltage -> car warming up 14.5-14.6, after warming up 14.3-14.4...

no time to further test as very de late and hungry...lolz

while tightening the battery nut accidently drop the nut and look at the engine bay cant find, later tolak car finally found it... it drop on the grass... :swt:
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open ac button and see how much it will drop laugh.gif
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post Mar 10 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 11 2013, 12:24 AM)
already ac on headlamp on...
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mine still facing sudden voltage drop during radiator fan running
and the light still dim hmm.gif
next try u observe carefully, because for mine, even i off the ac already, but when the radiator fan kick in , the voltage still drop and the light dim as well. at this time, the pedal will become sudden heavy, no much responsive. cry.gif

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 11 2013, 12:43 AM)
radiator fan running, ac kick voltage 14.0-14.2..

but still the light will kelip whn ac kick in.... still cant solve tht...
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try so many things still cant solve
the last possibilities is alternator problem laugh.gif
anyone checked out what is the brand of alternator in our saga?
my friend checked his persona is using SANDEN instead of DENSO. sweat.gif

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post Mar 11 2013, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 11 2013, 07:41 AM)
sleep.gif I have the AC kick in voltage drop sometimes, and it's not because of voltage stabilizer nor grounding issues. It's the godem throttlebody shut too tight, alas RPM dipped below 700, whilst alternator unable to charge at 14.5V became 12.0 or less. At this point, voltage stabilizer only able to offset about 1/2 of alternator performance, which still trying to maintain voltage at about 13.5V. Despite the difference is only from 14.5 dropped to 13.5, but as a human with outstanding suspicious + placebo butt, headlight dim is utterly noticeable(despite compare with car not start with headlights on at 12v - it's actually much dimmer than 13.5V during aircon kicks in with engine running). I can almost confirm you, even change to whatever ranjiao alternator, as long RPM dipped below its optimal charging cycle, your headlights will still dim. Unless you have a backup battery running at the charging capacity 14.5V. That however will cause you another problem. If your backup battery is running at 14.5V, it will be quickly discharged to an radiative equilibrium 12V when the alternator is not charging. Follow up by having a 14.5V backup batter, your alternator should also be upgraded to 200amp in order to charge 2 batteries at the same time. Correct me if I'm wrong. It'll be great if coolkwc can come in and shed some lights notworthy.gif
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changing 200A alternator will cause ur engine superrr heavy and drag during the charging process cry.gif

as long RPM dipped below its optimal charging cycle, your headlights will still dim.

As i mentioned before, the light will dim only when:
1. radiator fan running alone.
2. Pw window button pressed at the same time alone

If the radiator was running earlier and it is still running when ac kick in, the light will NOT dim.(at least for my ride, how about urs?)


But when our car is idle, the rpm drop very less when ac kick in, right? i dun think it drop until 700rpm with physically observed by my naked eye.
But if we free the gear and the car still moving, YES, i saw the rpm will drop untill 800rpm then sudden surge up to 1200 rpm and back to 900rpm at this time.

just a story to share:
my friend is driving toyota vios, yes, the light will dim during ac kick in but not serious like our saga. It is solved by adding 1600A positive cable.(400A cable still cant solve)After this, the light no more dim even ac kick in. (We tested by flashed high beam light to the white wall) laugh.gif
At the same time, my friend is driving proton exora CFE also. The light dim kaokao when ac kick in. Since this solution can solve in toyota vios. So he tried to put the same thing in exora. However, the light dim only reduced and NOT SOLVED. brows.gif

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 11 2013, 01:03 PM)
can show your car installation picture? where is the rocker?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 11 2013, 01:15 PM)
dangerous putting GC in gaga. when overtake, just slight throttle only, RPM shoot up to 4K, feel smooth. hehe.
the best thing i like about GC in gaga is that throttle response is better for my FL. i think before this the most i felt about throttle lag in my FL is when going uphill stop go. with GC, i can be in control of the pedal. also my gaga feels like a race car. with GC also peper will not feel their gaga underpowered.
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that is the big secret of why gaga pedal so NOOB.
if u observed p2 cars, their stock cars was paired with gc at engine and gearbox
c how proton cut cost again laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:30 PM)
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As I said earlier, I did not particularly mention why aircon kicks in that reduces current supply. Some may not notice the power drop when a/c kick, powah windoe kick, radiator fan kick, even turn steering also kick. Trust me, all these related to kinetic motors electrical appliance will jeopardize your electric current supply. The reason u have radiator fan kicks is solely bcoz when AC turn on, radiator fan will be simultaneously kick in. And however if radiator already heated up, fan was running then AC compressor kick is negligible bcoz the power has been drawn earlier by the fan already.

Therefore, if u install a 1 farad capacitor to the AC compressor, another 1 farad capacitor on the powersteering pump, another 1 farad to the cabin fuse box, another 1 farad on the battery, you have no light dim in the future. So u prolly ask me, aint that stupid? By having those few farads on the car, not only increase weight & burden the alternator, it can drain the battery when the car is not in use!

My point is, I've measure my charge reading on battery terminal, its dangerously stands at 14.8V. However, measurement in cabin is 14.0V only. Meaning to say, the capacitor(VS) effect is only limited to anything directly connected to the battery terminal(not BRANCH) and headlights is the branch of rear lamp whistling.gif The cheaper way to eleminate headlight dim would be adding a relay wiring to draw direct current from battery to your headlights whistling.gif Not enough charge also nevermind. Your headlights will not dim geh, only drain your battery jek whistling.gif
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the two way u suggested i got think b4
at the end was give up because the same reason u stated smile.gif
cure the surface but not the root 治标不治本 smile.gif

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 11 2013, 02:04 PM)
p2 car throttle response are far more worst compare to gaga... btw its my own opinion, the rest i not sure how they like it..
find a day we TT there lo.. brows.gif

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i dun know how SAGA CVT vs MYVI 4AT
but if BLM 4AT vs MYVI 4AT
i preferred the myvi response during the pick up
and the gear change quite smooth compared with saga 4AT which always jerking at first gear.
The same thing goes to savvy AMT.
My personal feeling brows.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 11 2013, 02:04 PM)
p2 car throttle response are far more worst compare to gaga... btw its my own opinion, the rest i not sure how they like it..
find a day we TT there lo.. brows.gif

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