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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB v40, Fast, faster, fasterer, fastererer :x

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ibnuasad
post Mar 2 2013, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 2 2013, 04:33 PM)
QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:55 PM)
Wuekekeke vroom = start normally
Wuekekekekekekekekeke = no fuel supply
Wuekekekekekekekkekek.... kekeke(faster).... kekekekek(slower) = petrol over flow
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee = Timing belt putus(engine already gone, so as your wallet)
Tik tak tik tak = Starter relay sound, normally starter KO
Wuek... Bin Bin Bin Bin(car horn alarm) = Bateri weak
...............................(no sound no light no nothing) = Bateri kong, you probably left the headlamp on overnight
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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Mar 2 2013, 04:31 PM)
Anyone can post unker debit start car troubleshooting guide?
Now kenot start car.. Stranded in petronas seremban r&r south
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My car also suddenly cannot start @ Petronas K'Damansara after pump full tank. Remembered davidke20 guide, tried to crank...sounds like no fuel being supplied. Called the nearest SC @ 3.45pm, 2 techs arrived @ 4.05pm smile.gif

They tried to start, also cannot...probably overflow rclxub.gif They went back to SC to get their tools while I waited @ Petronas sweat.gif

About 20 mins later, came back with another tech with tools...pushed the car near the parking lot, cranked the car, vroooooom....suddenly can start rclxm9.gif The tech and I forgot, that my car is manual, should've tried to push start earlier rather than going back and forth doh.gif

Drove to SC...arrived @ ~5pm, ran some diagnostic test via laptop...no fuel supply because masuk angin.

SA advised not to let car sit at home. Unlike Persona, Saga everyday must use. Also mentioned that Ron95 is actually not very good...use Ron97 whenever possible (if poket allows) and don't simply2 change petrol brand sweat.gif

Next time service there, will belanja them makan smile.gif

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post Mar 2 2013, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 2 2013, 06:16 PM)
Wow...what a good advice... use saga everyday and pump ron97  shakehead.gif
if i can afford to pump ron97 i don think i will even buy a saga...  sweat.gif
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Not everyday lah doh.gif Whenever pocket tebal laugh.gif Also they mention got one petrol brand that make this problem worse...I won't reveal here...later kena saman sweat.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Mar 2 2013, 06:21 PM)
Re connect batt.. Car mysteriously starts.. Wth happened? sleep.gif
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When you pump, did it 'tendang' initially?
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post Mar 2 2013, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Mar 2 2013, 06:24 PM)
Weirdly.. I pump shell ron95 first at tapah.  Then petronas ron95 at sban.. Then terus kenot start..
After rekonek  batt3 boley start.. Apa pasal?

Was using petronas all the while these days
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I also was using Petronas for a few weeks now. Yesterday pump BHP, today decided to go back to Petronas...suddenly cannot start doh.gif Luckily Proton SC came very fast rclxms.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 2 2013, 06:29 PM)
shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Based on actual feedback. Many saga (including FLX) got this problem. Usually owners who suka2 change petrol brand and always wait until blinking kena doh.gif Worse case, some kena tuka spare part...but warranty claim lar whistling.gif

QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Mar 2 2013, 06:26 PM)
No tendang.. Afrer refuel.. Start car.. Can hidup. But terus mati within 2 sec.  Then try restart.. Kenot start..
Then go reconnect batt3. Boley start pulak.. Ecu hanged?
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Probably. You should go to SC for diagnostic (FOC) icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 2 2013, 06:41 PM)
this issue could lies within ur keys. the immobilizer. u can start but once engine cant detect the immobilizer it will cut. i once lost the immobilizer on my key during change battery. can start but will shut down itself. might be related.
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If immobilizer kaput, I thought the car won't even crank? hmm.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 2 2013, 07:29 PM)
No can do liao if rosaked, however, preventive measure below:


  1. After paking, make sure steering turned back straight line before engine off. Avoid pressurized hydraulic fluid being dakung 1 side of the shaft(inside steering rack)

  2. Avoid make full steering turn, reverse & readjust abit wont die geh. Unless u do tight u-turn, also avoid steering being push until hit the stopper "TOK!"

  3. Do not move the steering whell when engine is not on. Hydraulic fluid is not flowing, u pushed the steering meaning hydraulic fluid are forced to find a WAY out(leaking was caused by this)



Timing belt change early no harm geh. Who knows it snapped on 65k whistling.gif
u tink ole saga meh? use AC pump meh? Masok angin sleep.gif u guys shd really beware of SC mech la. Holland info

How long did u crank that time? whistling.gif 5 seconds? 10 seconds?  Eventually, most(if not all) GaGa will have this problem geh sleep.gif Just keep cranking it up, ur battery can withstand up to a minute of crank start no problem sleep.gif It happened to me few times ady whistling.gif I use ron95 ONLY whistling.gif
Can crank, wont start. Cut off fuel supply
Good idea! Keep doing that nod.gif
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So if always parking and steering lock, not advisable? hmm.gif

Cranked myself about 10 times before calling SC. A few times cranked about 20 seconds while pumping acc...still cannot. Then only call SC. I know some SC holland info, but this the only SC that I trust other than CoSE. No nonsense service icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 2 2013, 07:15 PM)
Today damn hot day, so bukak aircon fan speed 3. Then heard whirring sound. doh.gif doh.gif

So go back home bukak air con filter and saw filter sudah jatuh. I readjust. Testing again. Buka speed 4, heard a "plop" sound and whirring again. Double side tape the filter with the filter housing. vmad.gif. Bukak speed 4 for 10 minutes. No more plop, no more whirring sound. biggrin.gif

Then lock car, saw front passenger side lock is taller than other lock. Go test can bukak or not and IT CAN OPEN! Then horns went blaring and kucing kucing all run away. laugh.gif Bukak door panel kasi ketuk ketuk the actuator a bit. Still same.

Now gotta change actuator. RM 60 fly again. ~.~
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Side effect of using ABL? hmm.gif

edit: Oops..sorry for double posting. Forgot rclxub.gif

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post Mar 2 2013, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 2 2013, 07:48 PM)
Not saying your mech purposely holland you, in my experience some SC mech also know a bit dint know a bit nia, some of them still working on outdated information.

The ECU will adapt to different fuel brands even if you always change. Pumping RON97 will only help if your engine suffers from knocking. If the Campro engine and ECU so sensitive to fuel conditions, can baling into laut dy.
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Could it cause more wear to the fuel system (fuel pump/filter/etc)? hmm.gif

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 2 2013, 07:52 PM)
if ABL makes actuator spoil, then why only one side spoil and not all four?

sleep.gif
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Factory unit problem. Warranty claim whistling.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Mar 2 2013, 07:56 PM)
Thats what the SC will tell you and use as excuse not to honor your warrant.

The truth is, ABL plus to the alarm system, the alarm system trigger the actuator. If I dont have ABL but I habitually lock the doors manually, its the same amount of wear and tear on the actuators.
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My car CoSE already put a comment, ABL doh.gif

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Mar 2 2013, 07:50 PM)
if that's d case, i can throw my persoga to laut dy...often change between caltex n bhp...at times petron/esso
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SA specifically said, Persona won't have any fuel problem...just don't put Diesel laugh.gif

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post Mar 2 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Mar 2 2013, 08:07 PM)
ya,thats y i say if tat's d case (cannot switch between fuel brand + use ron97 if wallet allows), then can campak car to laut.
so far no prob yet even though switch fuel brand most of d time (can view from my fuelly notes)
duno bout saga though....since SC say saga unlike persona, must start everyday? <<< holland info rite?
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 2 2013, 08:13 PM)
That one I not sure....

After I bought Fofi I abandon park the FLX outside, will start the car and run it around the taman for half an hour every 3-4 days, tader problem pun. Maybe the car still new ph34r.gif
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Regardless of holland info, at least the SC response is fast and everything FOC icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif

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post Mar 2 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 2 2013, 08:29 PM)
if lock steering can affect steering rack onot?
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This I want to know as well hmm.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 2 2013, 08:56 PM)
often low fuel supply to fuel pump can caused residue in fuel tank being sucked in, as a result jammed the pump
what kinda sick nonsense is that holland excuse sleep.gif can happen to all car la
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Need to compile all your guide into PDF thumbup.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Mar 2 2013, 09:51 PM)
stay safe... dun do... tongue.gif
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stay stock, keep warranty laugh.gif

QUOTE(lhwj @ Mar 2 2013, 09:53 PM)
Mahresians dunno how to appreciate these fast Fords. Always Golf GTi only doh.gif
My Gaga was fed with RON97 in the early days when the price difference wasn't so much icon_idea.gif
So weird. I keep alternating between Caltex, Petronas, Esso and BHP but I never have trouble starting hmm.gif
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Maybe my unit faulty or just my driving habits. If it happens again, warranty claim nod.gif

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post Mar 2 2013, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Mar 2 2013, 09:55 PM)
hahaha... i see what u did there... lols
sorry to tell u... my car no more warranty... tongue.gif
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No warranty, then can go ahead icon_rolleyes.gif I got a list of mods to do...but only after warranty sweat.gif
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post Mar 3 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Hantu641 @ Mar 3 2013, 11:23 AM)
Good morning guys,
i quite amazed by the speed of this tread..my 1st question of my car already long gone..lol..
as maybe some of u can remember, i just got my new car that is standard auto flx,
the best suggestion to upgrade my car is from bro reapers that is strut bar, lcp, steel braided brake hose and better tyre..
so need some info about which brand of petrol the best for saga and need some help of choosing car tint..

p/s: my father bought me the car for me, he payed dp, left the car for me..im there just sign the paper and drive away..lol, im sux, never have time to ask much about the car with the car seller..
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Join a couple of car club groups such as:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/blmclub/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Prosboc.Public/

Also, read on Drex Chan's Guide on NA Modifications to avoid being unnecessarily 'poisoned' sweat.gif

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post Mar 3 2013, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(travelmate2440 @ Mar 3 2013, 07:19 PM)
Guys i really need help. Saga flx clarion hu USB mode Suddenly missing.
Maksud gua, bila gua plug in thumbdrive, led light kat thumbdrive menyala sekejap aja pastu hilang.
Clarion hu pun tak tunjuk usb mode.
Bila gua tukar mode, hanya dapat tuner, aux, cd/mp3 aja.
Ada cara nak hard reset hu atau any other option or advice ?
Thanks in advance !
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Was it working before this?

Check your thumbdrive in PC..make sure it's still functioning. iinm, thumbdrive should be in Fat32 format
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post Mar 13 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 13 2013, 09:52 PM)
its just like i mentioned earlier, those SC dont want to file technical report for such BIG items hence blame owners for doing shit thing n said its voiding warranty...
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Some idiot SC don't like paperwork thus create all kind of excuses.

QUOTE(mingwei @ Mar 13 2013, 09:59 PM)
Hmm, they din charge me for the radiator fan. So is my warranty still intact? As for now need to go another sc to fix my gear actuator.
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Report that SC to weCare@proton.com and include the receipt/invoice num.
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(outsider @ Mar 17 2013, 12:43 AM)
White Solid Standard 1.3 (m) version

by the way.. can i ask some stupid question? What is the different between fl and flx?  unsure.gif
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Read Here: http://sagablmku.blogspot.com/2011/07/saga-fl-vs-flx.html
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post Mar 17 2013, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(outsider @ Mar 17 2013, 12:49 AM)
[FL/FLX]Rythmic knocking sound from rear wheels that follows vehicle speed.
The sound is from the drumbrake. So far no member who experienced this has been given an explanation as to why this occurs, except that it doesn't affect braking performance. Proceed to the nearest Proton Edar Service Center (NOT authorised SCs) or better yet, CoSE to have it replaced.
i heard some weird sound.... bunyi tajam "eeeeeeeeeeee" ...i dunno come from which part.... tml will check whether is it come from engine...  but i heard it look like come from rear side  sweat.gif

dunno what sound is that.... i think with my travelling mileage..next two week will need to go for 1st service
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That eeeeeeeeeee from the rear is fuel pump...its normal.

If got 'tak tak tak' sound from rear, its the drumbrakes...if that happens claim warranty and get it replaced.
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(outsider @ Mar 17 2013, 12:58 AM)
oh.... sound like wanna explode... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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I didn't replace mine as after a few emergency brakes, the 'tak tak tak' sound disappear by itself

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