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post Mar 4 2018, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Mar 4 2018, 06:50 PM)
+40% ice shot dmg is LAB enchant, not corruption
what harbinger items? maybe too rare no one selling?
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which lab? tier 3 or tier 4? this enhancement is random or fix type?

must be that reason no one selling. i forgot already, i viewed few items on rings and quiver.
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post Mar 4 2018, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Mar 4 2018, 06:54 PM)
which lab? tier 3 or tier 4? this enhancement is random or fix type?
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Both, but uber-lab is obviously better, can get better enchantment tier. It's complete random what you get.
List of helmet enchant: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_h...nchantment_mods
You can differentiate lab-enchant and corrupt easily by the font color, Lab enchant text is lighter color.
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post Mar 4 2018, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(mutan @ Mar 3 2018, 03:06 PM)
the capture mechanic is so bad.. I stopped playing at act 3.
wait how GGG would solve this
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They sort of fixed it by throwing the right level net you will have 3s to burst the mob down regardless of HP.
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QUOTE(calintztan @ Mar 4 2018, 11:16 PM)
They sort of fixed it by throwing the right level net you will have 3s to burst the mob down regardless of HP.
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neat, I'll check it out again tomorrow.
thanks
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post Mar 5 2018, 11:06 AM

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the red beast is harder than some map bosses. need to take time to kite and kill.

encounter a rare best with life regen. can't even drop its life below 80% after minutes of damaging.
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Given up on this game when i realize those league they do is not permanent, and it is temporary. Once league over your character is transferred back to Standard League. Standard League is pretty dead for all that matters.


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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Mar 5 2018, 11:33 AM)
Given up on this game when i realize those league they do is not permanent, and it is temporary. Once league over your character is transferred back to Standard League. Standard League is pretty dead for all that matters.
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To most of us that's what it's worth playing for. We start fresh with new mechanic every 3 months. And can try new build. I personally ignore standard.
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standard is pretty much alive tbh
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post Mar 5 2018, 01:05 PM

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Well the debate about Standard can goes on forever...
While I'm not really a person that likes to play alts / multiple character or multiple playthrough of any game, PoE surprisingly is an exception. The amount of variations are simply too big to play this game only one time. Using the league mechanic to start fresh, try new things to understand the game further, this isn't a game that "same skill just re-skin for other classes". The cosmetic reward certainly is another big reason. Cash shop cosmetics are god damn expensive with our currency, so if got free then better get it!
Old Standard characters serve the purpose of trying out new experimental builds, as there are often full reset on expansion release.

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I think I just spent all the luck of this year, today... wacko.gif
Barely passable character build, 3.6k life, barely have much experience with this boss, somehow survived through it no death, and dropped Shroud of the Lightless worth about 5 exalts...
Is this a different Lich boss? The mechanic isn't the same as those I encountered in Abyss league...
Might be a useful loot, should works with my frostbolt totem build... The fact that it's easy 5-link needed only is cool.



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post Mar 5 2018, 05:22 PM

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after yesterday i saw someone build video in youtube, his item got 1 bow can reach 3xx-6xx physical damaged. the whole night i dreaming about POE....
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post Mar 5 2018, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Mar 5 2018, 05:22 PM)
after yesterday i saw someone build video in youtube, his item got 1 bow can reach 3xx-6xx  physical damaged. the whole night i dreaming about POE....
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Nearly max rolled gear. How much $$$ and luck do you think it needs to create such item? Insanity.
The cost of acquiring one, even buying it, is insanity.
The accumulation of extreme wealth, mirror gears, legacy broken gears are reasons why some people don't like Standard.
No doubt someone 1-shot the new Uber Elder boss in Standard with trillions of dps.

Sure, you could argue: "what's that have to do with me?"
Mostly nothing. Except, there's no goal other than reach the last boss (now: Uber Elder)

In temp-league at least you're also playing to acquire free cosmetic rewards, as well as playing new contents 3 months earlier.
However, not all league contents made it to core game. Eg: Perandus, rampage, talisman, harbinger, etc.
To access these "extinct" gameplay from Standard, the only way is to use Zana's map machine; but even then it's not exactly as good as the original.

Collecting legacy cosmetic in Standard? Unless you generating several hundreds Exalt per day, don't even think about it.

Sure, levelling new character is annoying. That's why we just rush through the contents.
If you have time to play whole day during weekend, you can clear all acts in just 2 days. With some previous experience, you can rush faster. Not too terrible.

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post Mar 5 2018, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Mar 5 2018, 06:26 PM)
Nearly max rolled gear. How much $$$ and luck do you think it needs to create such item? Insanity.
The cost of acquiring one, even buying it, is insanity.
The accumulation of extreme wealth, mirror gears, legacy broken gears are reasons why some people don't like Standard.
No doubt someone 1-shot the new Uber Elder boss in Standard with trillions of dps.

Sure, you could argue: "what's that have to do with me?"
Mostly nothing. Except, there's no goal other than reach the last boss (now: Uber Elder)

In temp-league at least you're also playing to acquire free cosmetic rewards, as well as playing new contents 3 months earlier.
However, not all league contents made it to core game. Eg: Perandus, rampage, talisman, harbinger, etc.
To access these "extinct" gameplay from Standard, the only way is to use Zana's map machine; but even then it's not exactly as good as the original.

Collecting legacy cosmetic in Standard? Unless you generating several hundreds Exalt per day, don't even think about it.

Sure, levelling new character is annoying. That's why we just rush through the contents.
If you have time to play whole day during weekend, you can clear all acts in just 2 days. With some previous experience, you can rush faster. Not too terrible.
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ahh..... cannot remember where i saw it already, i cannot find back that bow sweat.gif anyway, i am always dying, think if i invest belly of the best suit 20 chaos (6 sockets); but need to do 5 link on it (150 fusing), it give +36% Life, do you think make sense? current life about 4.3k-4.5k hmm.gif use it as backup plan... hmm.gif 5L my dps will drop since 1 gem need to remove from original Tabula. (why sometime when wrtting reply here only the pc so laggy; browsing time so smooth; i am using chrome...anyone encountered this before?)

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post Mar 5 2018, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Mar 5 2018, 07:45 PM)
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Just search for 600pDPS bow on Standard trading and you'll see it.

Get a 6-link bow, and use Kaom's Heart? That will instantly put you at 6k life. hmm.gif
Frankly your skill gem setup is also terrible. laugh.gif
Whatever happened with the 100k+ dps setup linked previously? hmm.gif

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post Mar 5 2018, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Mar 5 2018, 08:08 PM)
Get a 6-link bow, and use Kaom's Heart? That will instantly put you at 6k life.  hmm.gif
Frankly your skill gem setup is terrible.  laugh.gif
You playing barrage now? Drop cold pen, drop pierce, drop chain.
Put in Elemental damage with attack, faster attack, elemental focus. That will double your dps but still far from decent.

The Enlighten gem do not function until it is at least lv2, but then again it's still pretty damn trash.
If you want to reduce reserve, first thing to consider is on passive tree.

Whatever happened with the 100k+ dps setup I linked previously?  hmm.gif
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6 link bow with decent dmg is exp i think, i no really check that yet. i not consider to go koam is bcos no link/socket. seem not really worth hmm.gif but belly +36% from 4.4k life = 1584 life, my calculation is correct right? yesterday i spend 2 chaos buy that helmet +143life and but use chest, i thought it cannot use chest attribute so can match to my Tabula mana tau it is totally cant wear chest cilaka... sweat.gif

i not using barrage right now, i place it just to absorb xp to level 20 in case one day need to use it. now i use ice shot (3 arrow on current setup), ~35k base dps, frenzy time go up 75k dps (i not sure how much it can go, i just move my mouse over that icon during in game attacking to see, it drop back when no attacking);

i almost forgot your 100k dps setup alr.... after watch more and more other ppl setup, can say i am nearly jam and not confident as i play more see not seeing improvement, and some time thinking who i suppose to follow.... and once skill tree reset done and now set sail to ice/cold dmg path, no turning back chance lor until next reset come....

i regret not buy 100 points upgrade stash currency sweat.gif i will wait for next sales

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post Mar 5 2018, 08:28 PM

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but belly +36% from 4.4k life = 1584 life, my calculation is correct right?


Wrong. You only gain 570 life with belly. Don't just multiply final number with percentage, this game don't do math like that.
Just experiment it in Path of Building, save the headache.

Your tree is FINE. There's nothing wrong there. Don't mess with it anymore.
Now just focus in fixing your items, see people's similar build and understand why they use some specific items.
Eg: Hrimsorrow convert physical to cold, so elemental boost will become bigger.
Why we want to convert to elemental? Because we can get "Increase 45% elemental damage with attack skill" on RINGS, AMULET, BELT, QUIVER.
If you get your item correct, you have 200% increase elemental right there!

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Starkonja's Head also very good for critical build. It got good amount of LIFE as well.
Since you change into crit-build now, Death Opus will have bigger effect because of it's higher base-crit value.
Put simply, 6-link Death Opus will be your target. But I'm sure a 5-link will already very good to clear 99% of game contents.
Don't forget Diamond Flask as well, it's big dps boost for crit build, and allows you to freeze magic/rare mob with ease.

With all above item improvements, your dps should well exceed 100k easily.
I do hope you see the direction you should go for your item now... This is same a the Mathil stuff you linked the other day, minus some too expensive items.

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post Mar 5 2018, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Mar 5 2018, 08:28 PM)
Wrong. You only gain 570 life with belly. Don't just multiply final number with percentage, this game don't do math like that.

Your tree is FINE. There's nothing wrong there. Don't mess with it anymore. Now just focus in fixing your items, see people's similar build and understand why they use some specific items.
Eg: Hrimsorrow convert physical to cold, so elemental boost will become bigger.
Why we want to convert to elemental? Because we can get "Increase 45% elemental damage with attack skill" on RINGS, AMULET, BELT, QUIVER.
If you get your item correct, you have 200% increase elemental right there!

Starkonja's Head also very good for critical build. It got good amount of LIFE as well.

Since you change into crit-build now, Death Opus will have bigger effect because of it's higher base-crit value.
Put simply, 6-link Death Opus will be your target. But I'm sure a 5-link will already very good to clear 99% of game contents.
Don't forget Diamond Flask as well, it's big dps boost for crit build, and allows you to freeze magic/rare mob with ease.
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luckily check with you, but 570 life quite decent for 20 chaos; if koam heart i used to see got 2 version, normal is 500 for min ppl sell for 1.5ex above, and still less that belly beast 70life hmm.gif belly beast seem no brainer for more life + 5 link; then if 1000 life koam hearts i think is insane expensive.

6L death opus sell for 4ex.... (put aside 1st; 1 got 1 ex only); 5L will be 35-55chaos; keep in wish list; need to farm more chaos;

after month plus following you at here, now i just realized many things you told me before, orange unique item is on purpose but yellow item is more expensive especially with 3 type resis + life + little dmg; no wonder that day i check mathil build i told it is cheap items cause many yellow items sweat.gif

after all, i think i will prep for belly beast, and find way to get corrupt quiver +1 arrow....
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post Mar 5 2018, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Mar 5 2018, 09:12 PM)
luckily check with you, but 570 life quite decent for 20 chaos; if koam heart i used to see got 2 version, normal is 500 for min ppl sell for 1.5ex above, and still less that belly beast 70life  hmm.gif belly beast seem no brainer for more life + 5 link; then if 1000 life koam hearts i think is insane expensive.
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For reference according to your current build:
- Belly END RESULT provide 500 LIFE, bringing your total to 5k.
- Kaom END RESULT provide 1500 LIFE, bringing your total to 6k.
- Legacy Kaom (before nerf) END RESULT... let's be real now that cost is INSANITY laugh.gif

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after all, i think i will prep for belly beast, and find way to get corrupt quiver +1 arrow....

Just get an elder affected quiver, (LINK) cheap +1 arrow. Unless you want +2 arrow.
You see the result shown are all corrupted, because they are all FAILED attempt in getting +2 arrow.
The only +2 arrow I can find on standard is... 1600 EXALTS, WTF? shakehead.gif They were just a few exalts back in Abyss league.

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post Mar 5 2018, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Mar 5 2018, 09:16 PM)
For reference according to your current build:
- Belly END RESULT provide 500 LIFE, bringing your total to 5k.
- Kaom END RESULT provide 1500 LIFE, bringing your total to 6k.
- Legacy Kaom (before nerf) END RESULT... let's be real now that cost is INSANITY  laugh.gif
Just get an elder affected quiver, (LINK) cheap +1 arrow. Unless you want +2 arrow.
You see the result shown are all corrupted, because they are all FAILED attempt in getting +2 arrow.
The only +2 arrow I can find on standard is... 1600 EXALTS, WTF?  shakehead.gif They were just a few exalts back in Abyss league.
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what do you mean END RESULT? weird it different so much 500 versus 1500 hmm.gif now cannot afford koam heart + 5L bow, but good to learn the secret ahead and keep in wish list nod.gif

i saw that with 91life quiver for 20 chaos, i will buy that. thank for link notworthy.gif i notice that seller got 4 quiver to sell, all +1 arrow blink.gif later i go wath youtube see how vaal orb mod specific feature... hmm.gif

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post Mar 5 2018, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Mar 5 2018, 09:44 PM)
what do you mean END RESULT? weird it different so much 500 versus 1500  hmm.gif
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First, let's keep in mind your total flat life from passive tree & items first, which is about 1600.
And your passive tree have 180% increase LIFE.

Kaom adds to that 1600, so... 1600 + 500 = 2100
Calculate end result = (2100 x 180%) + 2100 = 5880 LIFE
Increment about 1500 from your current value.

Belly adds to that 180%, so... 180% + 40% (max best roll) = 220%
Calculate end result = (1600 x 220%) + 1600 = 5120 LIFE
Increment about 500 from your current value.

So, theoretically, a Legacy Kaom can = (2600 x 180%) + 2600 = 7280 LIFE

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Mar 5 2018, 10:04 PM)
First, let's keep in mind your total flat life from passive tree & items first, which is about 1600.
And your passive tree have 180% increase LIFE.

Kaom adds to that 1600, so... 1600 + 500 = 2100
Calculate end result = (2100 x 180%) + 2100 = 5880 LIFE
Increment about 1500 from your current value.

Belly adds to that 180%, so... 180% + 40% (max best roll) = 220%
Calculate end result = (1600 x 220%) + 1600 = 5120 LIFE
Increment about 500 from your current value.

So, theoretically, a Legacy Kaom can = (2600 x 180%) + 2600 = 7280 LIFE
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wow, got it! notworthy.gif i think i need to come back refresh some your of listed recommend items and these calculations time to time, really very helpful thumbup.gif

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