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Nokia Lumia 920 V3
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Agito666
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Mar 14 2013, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Mar 14 2013, 03:22 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Personally, for the next best thing for cameras, i suggest Nokia 'steal' back HTC's idea. To limit the thickness of camera, instead of 41MP, put in three 25 MP stacked sensors (HTC's One has three 4MP stacked sensors.), then combine with OIS. If the sensor is 25MP, and they maintain the size of the pixels in microns, that means the sensor dont have to be too big, maybe 1/1.6, instead of 1/1.2 on 808PV. Honestly speaking, im not fond of the idea by HTC to have larger size of pixels to capture more light - for that, let a large sensor or OIS or both do the job. Since they had to keep their phones slim they kept the sensor size at 1/3. Yes, if pixels are small u get more noise, and that's what oversampling will solve it to some extent.
And now let's look at the 41MP on 808PV - 5MP photos will have around 7-8 times oversampling; 8MP around 4-5 times oversampling.
If use three 25 MP stacked sensors, that means a 8MP shot will have 3X oversampling from the stacked sensors, and another 3X oversampling digitally due to the large sensor. That makes a 8MP shot having 6X oversampling, instead of just 4-5 times in the 808 PureView. If they want to limit the amount of lossless zoom, then limit the digital zoom maximum to 3X only, and even zoomed in image have another 3X oversampling from the stacked sensors. Best of both worlds.
For 5 MP shots, 5X oversampling the stacked sensor and another 5X digitally gives you 10X of oversampling, or a 5X lossless digital zoom with another 5X of oversampling involved. Zoomed in images have both details and also less noise.
No idea if im doing my maths right, but i think you guys get my idea.
Low light performance, just slip in OIS along - provided they can apply it to a larger lens and sensor, no need Xenon flash since it is too bulky. If all i mentioned theoretically is possible, we might see an even more godly camera phone compared to 808 due to more oversampling despite lesser megapixel count. For me i would personally prefer oversampling technology over OIS, but having both is awesome. Noise is difficult to get rid off (risk of losing details in photos) if excessive photoshopping, oversampling can get rid of noise and preserve detail. The phone may still be thick, but if used with aluminium material i believe it can be a lot slimmer than 808 PureView since Xenon flash is not used.
But seriously, even if my theory above works, a really powerful graphics unit and processor is needed, something like Snapdragon 600 or 800.  i'd rather nokia improve all the software side first as fast as possible  camera okay la, ONE still not able beat 808 QUOTE(thesun @ Mar 14 2013, 03:28 AM) HTC one uses three sensor? i thought using one 4mp sensor, but bigger individual pixel? btw. Lumia 928 will have led and xenon flash duno, for my understanding it is more like 3x light absorb rate for 4mp sensor but picture output still 4mp  if want crop picture sure GG. for ONE.
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Agito666
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Mar 14 2013, 10:56 AM
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=58929978here is the HTC ONE thread , that post got a forumer post about L920 vs ONE for camera test. i think is by pocketnow.com
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solution2u
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Mar 14 2013, 12:13 PM
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Relax guys. No wonder my weather app forecast today weather is very hot. Have you guys test the camera simulator? http://camerasim.com/camera-simulator/It is nice tool to practice camera skill for newbie like me
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EXkurogane
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Mar 14 2013, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(rogrog @ Mar 14 2013, 08:59 AM) Xenon for flash, led for torchlight function  LED on this phone is indeed very bright. If TNB troll me also i can still go toilet in the dark...  I saw a post before in engadget that a team in s'pore made it possible to develop Xenon flash by 80% or 90% smaller, the capacitor module is reduced to, like, a mm thick only, a new technology. Now, Nokia, grab it  Have both LED and Xenon is the best actually, like the 808...
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static
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Mar 14 2013, 03:03 PM
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Guys, what is the easiest way to move contacts (and data if possible) from iphone to l920?
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Wogarious
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Mar 14 2013, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(static @ Mar 14 2013, 03:03 PM) Guys, what is the easiest way to move contacts (and data if possible) from iphone to l920? Copy them to sim card then sync your phone with facebook. Your contact will then sync with those conatct with the same name in facebook eventually every contact that have facebook account will have a picture, birthday and some related information with it. Correct me if im wrong ty.
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EXkurogane
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Mar 14 2013, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(static @ Mar 14 2013, 03:03 PM) Guys, what is the easiest way to move contacts (and data if possible) from iphone to l920? There is an app called "Transfer My Data" in the app store (*EDIT: eh, in the phone i think) for contacts and messages transfer. It uses bluetooth. For music and photos, i think there is also an app for that but you need to be connected to the computer (who wants to transfer gigs of files by bluetooth). For music sync your stuff in iPhone with itunes and then sync itunes with 920 - but this one i forgot how ady since i dont use iOS. This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 14 2013, 03:58 PM
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static
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Mar 14 2013, 03:30 PM
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Oh ya, just saw that in the phone menu, will try that tonight
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rogrog
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Mar 14 2013, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Mar 14 2013, 02:43 PM) LED on this phone is indeed very bright. If TNB troll me also i can still go toilet in the dark...  I saw a post before in engadget that a team in s'pore made it possible to develop Xenon flash by 80% or 90% smaller, the capacitor module is reduced to, like, a mm thick only, a new technology. Now, Nokia, grab it  Have both LED and Xenon is the best actually, like the 808... This is actually a good idea
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quantum
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Mar 14 2013, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(static @ Mar 14 2013, 03:03 PM) Guys, what is the easiest way to move contacts (and data if possible) from iphone to l920? The way I did it was sync Iphone contacts to Gmail, then on the l920 can sync back straight away.
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LightningZERO
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Mar 14 2013, 05:37 PM
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Bought Skulls of the Shogun. Definitely a very fun game
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^pomen_GTR^
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Mar 14 2013, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 13 2013, 08:29 PM) if enable flash better? i know flash will force fast shutter speed rite.. if enable flash the picture become dark..... no flash  flash  *click for fullsize picture (i think already cropped during hosting this picture)
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static
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Mar 14 2013, 06:04 PM
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I can't believe there's no apps to monitor data usage
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^pomen_GTR^
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Mar 14 2013, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(static @ Mar 14 2013, 06:04 PM) I can't believe there's no apps to monitor data usage  btw lumia data usage already low... if use default fb interface,whatsapp then really good on data..... for browsing i recommend UC browser tough sometimes on high memory website appears "not enough memory" warning on the browser
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static
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Mar 14 2013, 06:34 PM
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We use spotify a lot though, and maps too. Not sure how it would fare, but a lot of people are complaining about high data usage on the L920 which got me kinda worried.
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^pomen_GTR^
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Mar 14 2013, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(static @ Mar 14 2013, 06:34 PM) We use spotify a lot though, and maps too. Not sure how it would fare, but a lot of people are complaining about high data usage on the L920 which got me kinda worried. maps?? nokia drive already so good...no need on data all the time..just like if u want to unable search offline,then only search online..... and see email update setting in phone "setting" tab This post has been edited by ^pomen_GTR^: Mar 14 2013, 06:39 PM
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EXkurogane
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Mar 14 2013, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(static @ Mar 14 2013, 06:04 PM) I can't believe there's no apps to monitor data usage  Malaysian mobile carriers dun give a f**k about windows phone, thats why... Windows phone does have data monitoring called Data sense, but it needs the carriers to support it. I still geram last time the RM 200 smartphone rebate they say is not applicable on Lumias... *shows them a middle finger*
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kuroneko0509
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Mar 14 2013, 07:58 PM
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~~sleeping anywhere, anytime, anyplace~~
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Mar 14 2013, 11:43 AM) Malaysian mobile carriers dun give a f**k about windows phone, thats why... Windows phone does have data monitoring called Data sense, but it needs the carriers to support it. I still geram last time the RM 200 smartphone rebate they say is not applicable on Lumias... *shows them a middle finger*  lol.... lumia not a smartphone to them
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EXkurogane
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Mar 14 2013, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Mar 14 2013, 07:58 PM) lol.... lumia not a smartphone to them  Not a smartphone, a geniusphone
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GKWong
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Mar 14 2013, 08:11 PM
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I thought now any smartphone can d...
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