haha, for now, dua org jerr yg pakai..

i have all the lumia phones. So i know what i am talking about. But since you insist what you said please recreate ths with your phone


Nokia Lumia 900 @ Waterdrops by JTproductions, on Flickr

I can adept to any mobile phone in the market and i do not need to know actual photons of light hit the sensor. Its all about instinct and adepting knowledge you know.

E-book will teach you the secrets on how to adept to this challenges that it doesnt explain in actual protons of light hit the sensor

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Mar 14 2013, 12:24 AM

lemme find first. some months ago looked, forget the url.

do share some 920 pictures.

sebarkan pengaruh L920 there

i will upload when get home.

even samsung sensor sux i can still do it
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenokiagalle...7167724/detail/

but when u give me something superb like 808 pureview i am able to bring it all to a whole new level



U can ask any 808 pureview the minmum focus of a 808 pureview is about 8cm to 10cm u cant zoom at 38MP.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Mar 14 2013, 12:33 AM

lol

my c901 takes sharper picture than 920..

u think i dunno how to handle?

The guys at wpcentral demoed portico update improved the sharpness a lot, but some ppl still say a bit blur, that case must be their own handling of the camera... before the update, i do think there is an issue on the software aspect of the camera.

On a completely unrelated note, damn that Racing Miku figure is nice! I only have 2012 Snow Miku Nendo, and waiting for my 2013 Snow Miku nendo.

This post has been edited by zero_kbom: Mar 14 2013, 02:56 AM

first of all, i think u sengaja spin my words, or you dont really understand what i am talking about,
either way, not my problem tho.

i was saying the native camera of lumia 920 takes blurry image, regardless whether using tripod or handheld.
so, it must have been affected by the autofocus mechanism.

having manual focus will eliminate this problem (where the lens actually stay on that predetermined focus position, BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER the image capturing process)


WP_20130131_016 by geligakmn, on Flickr

btw i uploaded several photos to flickr not to challenge anyone.
not to prove anything either.

This post has been edited by thesun: Mar 14 2013, 04:27 AM

WP_20130223_047 by geligakmn, on Flickr

if u want more bokeh, bring the subject away from the background.
i should have take this from the side, not from top like this.
but i had to cos i scared the biawak bite me lol

This post has been edited by thesun: Mar 14 2013, 04:16 AM

Personally, for the next best thing for cameras, i suggest Nokia 'steal' back HTC's idea. To limit the thickness of camera, instead of 41MP, put in three 25 MP stacked sensors (HTC's One has three 4MP stacked sensors.), then combine with OIS. If the sensor is 25MP, and they maintain the size of the pixels in microns, that means the sensor dont have to be too big, maybe 1/1.6, instead of 1/1.2 on 808PV. Honestly speaking, im not fond of the idea by HTC to have larger size of pixels to capture more light - for that, let a large sensor or OIS or both do the job. Since they had to keep their phones slim they kept the sensor size at 1/3. Yes, if pixels are small u get more noise, and that's what oversampling will solve it to some extent.

And now let's look at the 41MP on 808PV - 5MP photos will have around 7-8 times oversampling; 8MP around 4-5 times oversampling.

If use three 25 MP stacked sensors, that means a 8MP shot will have 3X oversampling from the stacked sensors, and another 3X oversampling digitally due to the large sensor. That makes a 8MP shot having 6X oversampling, instead of just 4-5 times in the 808 PureView. If they want to limit the amount of lossless zoom, then limit the digital zoom maximum to 3X only, and even zoomed in image have another 3X oversampling from the stacked sensors. Best of both worlds.

For 5 MP shots, 5X oversampling the stacked sensor and another 5X digitally gives you 10X of oversampling, or a 5X lossless digital zoom with another 5X of oversampling involved. Zoomed in images have both details and also less noise.

No idea if im doing my maths right, but i think you guys get my idea.

Low light performance, just slip in OIS along - provided they can apply it to a larger lens and sensor, no need Xenon flash since it is too bulky. If all i mentioned theoretically is possible, we might see an even more godly camera phone compared to 808 due to more oversampling despite lesser megapixel count. For me i would personally prefer oversampling technology over OIS, but having both is awesome. Noise is difficult to get rid off (risk of losing details in photos) if excessive photoshopping, oversampling can get rid of noise and preserve detail. The phone may still be thick, but if used with aluminium material i believe it can be a lot slimmer than 808 PureView since Xenon flash is not used.

But seriously, even if my theory above works, a really powerful graphics unit and processor is needed, something like Snapdragon 600 or 800.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 14 2013, 03:33 AM

HTC one uses three sensor? i thought using one 4mp sensor, but bigger individual pixel?
btw. Lumia 928 will have led and xenon flash

This post has been edited by thesun: Mar 14 2013, 03:31 AM

It's three 4MP sensors stacked on each other, so there is 3X oversampling if not mistaken. Their image still have a lot of noise when dark though. So, u still get 4MP photos, not 12 MP since they are stacked on each other. If single 4MP sensor only photos will lack detail, not to mention aperture is only f/2.0

Imagine using both large sensor + high MP count and stacked sensors together, you can do a lot more oversampling. U can still shoot 24MP photos with 3X oversampling and no zooming. stacking three 25 MP sensors will feel like having 75MP lol, but it;s still 24-25MP photos max. Heck, that will be expensive, but i dont mind paying for such innovation.

I also wish Nokia brings back the multi aperture on the N86. Imagine all the tech they came up with so far combined.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 14 2013, 03:41 AM

http://www.wpcentral.com/lumia-928-leaked-..._medium=twitter

leak 928

nice one! but so far as I have concerned, Nokia will never let us down..
they like to keep their cameraphones with raw pictures, purely produced by their own sensors

and I do think that ultrapixels of HTC One and 13mp from Xperia Z is crucial for Nokia to strive even more and better for the future.. I knew that other company would stumped their arse of when the 808 was first launched, but still Nokia is the best camera smartphone producer of the world. if anyone tried to deny it, they will come back with even more greater products

lets make it clear what matter is you are happy. I am happy what i have achieve but for those that think their limitation have reach its end and interesting to break this limitation or barrier do get my book. If you believe 920 takes blurry image that good for you but my book display otherwise interested to find out more do get It. Tats all i can say. ENJOY

Lucky you are not my sifu/ proffessional if not i wont master what i have learned today. Just for your info most mobile phone are autofocus or continous autofocus.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Mar 14 2013, 07:39 AM

xenon and led got what difference?

I thought it just a lighting system.

Xenon for flash, led for torchlight function

Tq brah.

I didnt know the LED that bright until i look into it by myself.

Pain in the asseyes.

LED flash i feel it will cause white balance miss a bit

i see wat u did thr