It's here in this page i think, scroll up and find.

For me, it's the first time im putting SP by myself on a phone for my 920, and guess what, might have been an amateur's luck... I used Nilkin's one, didnt cut, despite the slight oversize it stuck nicely on my phone, after more than 2 months the sides havent showed any signs of peeling off yet...

Last time when i buy N8 already have SP on the screen, wondering why they dun include it...

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 13 2013, 01:09 AM

Im not sure if it plays MKV or MP4, havent tried yet, but AVI sure can. You know lah, windows phone video player is like windows media player, this one cannot play that one cannot play, damn geram, im still waiting for VLC player to be released in windows phone.

Try buying the app ProShot if you dont mind; the blur is gone really.

I use bluetooth a lot nowadays, the 920's BT is awesome... It detects my laptop and auto connect to voice and music; my older symbian, android phones, laptop keep reject only ==; Dunno if it has something to do with security/firewall..

And ya, i lazy pull in pull our cable, i transfer music and photo by bluetooth also. As long not digitally copyrighted, can transfer. So far for music, mp3 and m4a works.

That might be a possible theory...

I mastered the technique already for macro and medium-distance shots For landscape shots, not so much yet; im not that skilled in that aspect.
My cousin mistook of of the macro shots i took with this phone for one that came from a digital camera.

I usually take photos of my figures~ This shot below (first photo is from cam directly, 2nd photo is after some photoshop for better composition/colors and brighten up a bit since i used low ISO), at a sports complex in my campus using the stock camera, not proshot. I suppress the noise by using only ISO 100. No flash, no zooming. Exposure & Color balance auto. And, i didnt use tripod, used my hands only, tap on screen to focus. The figure's full height is around 21cm.

One thing i noticed that, if i wanted to focus on the face, i musnt tap on the face, i had to tap on the forehead (bit higher) or tap the chin/neck area ( a bit lower) for maximum sharpness on the face. In short, dont focus on the face directly, go up or down a bit (the focal length changes by millimeters since the figure's face is not a flat surface).

Must have been something to do with the focal length adjustment by the camera (the camera's software algorithm seems to have the tendency of avoiding over-sharpening images which is odd, by not fully focusing on the spot you prefer, by readjusting the focal length difference by a few mm). I suspect it is trying to suppress or minimize noise. This concept worked on my other trials shooting photos of other objects, it's kinda stupid to me really.





This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 13 2013, 09:56 PM

You mean how near you can go? I managed to reach as near as 2 inches on the stock camera

The nice thing of macros on the L920, because aperture is only f/2.0 you can get a nice blur off the background, sometimes even a bit of bokeh from lights that are far away. Most phone cams are f/2.0 anyway nowadays.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 13 2013, 10:57 PM

That may be one reason, but that problem can be avoided if you know how to handle the camera. It's all about how you execute it.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 14 2013, 12:17 AM

The guys at wpcentral demoed portico update improved the sharpness a lot, but some ppl still say a bit blur, that case must be their own handling of the camera... before the update, i do think there is an issue on the software aspect of the camera.

Personally, for the next best thing for cameras, i suggest Nokia 'steal' back HTC's idea. To limit the thickness of camera, instead of 41MP, put in three 25 MP stacked sensors (HTC's One has three 4MP stacked sensors.), then combine with OIS. If the sensor is 25MP, and they maintain the size of the pixels in microns, that means the sensor dont have to be too big, maybe 1/1.6, instead of 1/1.2 on 808PV. Honestly speaking, im not fond of the idea by HTC to have larger size of pixels to capture more light - for that, let a large sensor or OIS or both do the job. Since they had to keep their phones slim they kept the sensor size at 1/3. Yes, if pixels are small u get more noise, and that's what oversampling will solve it to some extent.

And now let's look at the 41MP on 808PV - 5MP photos will have around 7-8 times oversampling; 8MP around 4-5 times oversampling.

If use three 25 MP stacked sensors, that means a 8MP shot will have 3X oversampling from the stacked sensors, and another 3X oversampling digitally due to the large sensor. That makes a 8MP shot having 6X oversampling, instead of just 4-5 times in the 808 PureView. If they want to limit the amount of lossless zoom, then limit the digital zoom maximum to 3X only, and even zoomed in image have another 3X oversampling from the stacked sensors. Best of both worlds.

For 5 MP shots, 5X oversampling the stacked sensor and another 5X digitally gives you 10X of oversampling, or a 5X lossless digital zoom with another 5X of oversampling involved. Zoomed in images have both details and also less noise.

No idea if im doing my maths right, but i think you guys get my idea.

Low light performance, just slip in OIS along - provided they can apply it to a larger lens and sensor, no need Xenon flash since it is too bulky. If all i mentioned theoretically is possible, we might see an even more godly camera phone compared to 808 due to more oversampling despite lesser megapixel count. For me i would personally prefer oversampling technology over OIS, but having both is awesome. Noise is difficult to get rid off (risk of losing details in photos) if excessive photoshopping, oversampling can get rid of noise and preserve detail. The phone may still be thick, but if used with aluminium material i believe it can be a lot slimmer than 808 PureView since Xenon flash is not used.

But seriously, even if my theory above works, a really powerful graphics unit and processor is needed, something like Snapdragon 600 or 800.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 14 2013, 03:33 AM

It's three 4MP sensors stacked on each other, so there is 3X oversampling if not mistaken. Their image still have a lot of noise when dark though. So, u still get 4MP photos, not 12 MP since they are stacked on each other. If single 4MP sensor only photos will lack detail, not to mention aperture is only f/2.0

Imagine using both large sensor + high MP count and stacked sensors together, you can do a lot more oversampling. U can still shoot 24MP photos with 3X oversampling and no zooming. stacking three 25 MP sensors will feel like having 75MP lol, but it;s still 24-25MP photos max. Heck, that will be expensive, but i dont mind paying for such innovation.

I also wish Nokia brings back the multi aperture on the N86. Imagine all the tech they came up with so far combined.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 14 2013, 03:41 AM

LED on this phone is indeed very bright. If TNB troll me also i can still go toilet in the dark... I saw a post before in engadget that a team in s'pore made it possible to develop Xenon flash by 80% or 90% smaller, the capacitor module is reduced to, like, a mm thick only, a new technology. Now, Nokia, grab it
Have both LED and Xenon is the best actually, like the 808...

There is an app called "Transfer My Data" in the app store (*EDIT: eh, in the phone i think) for contacts and messages transfer. It uses bluetooth.

For music and photos, i think there is also an app for that but you need to be connected to the computer (who wants to transfer gigs of files by bluetooth). For music sync your stuff in iPhone with itunes and then sync itunes with 920 - but this one i forgot how ady since i dont use iOS.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Mar 14 2013, 03:58 PM

Malaysian mobile carriers dun give a f**k about windows phone, thats why... Windows phone does have data monitoring called Data sense, but it needs the carriers to support it. I still geram last time the RM 200 smartphone rebate they say is not applicable on Lumias... *shows them a middle finger*

Not a smartphone, a geniusphone

It better works on every smartphone, i want to use it to get a L520 when it comes out; i only hope Maxis will offer it...

I have met a lot of @$$holes working at Nokia shops but telling you not to buy Nokia products... They should just be fired...