that's a lil bit misleading in my opinion because Photoshop isn't a vector graphic based program. it's a bitmap graphic program that generates images via pixels.

Illutrator/Freehand is a true vector graphic based program because it enables the ability to scale craetions via an algorithm equation.

I'm not trying to prove a point but just explaining so others won't be mistaken that Photoshop can create true vector graphics. Unless in version CS2 Adobe has suddenly added that feature, i don't know coz I'm only using CS.

Photoshop is capable of creating graphics that look similar to vector based graphics but is not considered vector.

as to grunge in Illustrator.. I googled this.

http://www.designertoday.com/DesktopDefaul...=18&itemid=1595

dunno if it'll help..

This post has been edited by etsuko: Apr 2 2006, 10:16 AM

I'd scan in the cutout like image first.. without those dots (i think).. then maybe you could apply LiveTrace or something like that.. then seperate the layers into 1 black layer and the other is the cutout..

then you play with the options in Pathfinder for the right results..