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TSCloudx
post Apr 2 2006, 01:17 AM, updated 20y ago

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Today is a very special day cuz its the dota tournament final round and my team are in it. But we lose 2 rounds (since its a -lm match). The reason we lose? My team are lacking a lot in team work.

Frankly speaking i hav a good team members, all of them are consider really good in the game. But the problem is each of my team members refuse to work among each other.

For scrouge my team uses DP(me), LICH, FACELESS, SandK and QoP. And the opponent uses Earthshaker,Techie,KoL,Tiny and Treant. U see the sent team utilize in combo to for kills. Treant ulti earthshaker ulti and tiny toss. But it can be counter because my team got DP which is me. The whole idea is to let our opponent into our base I silence, Faceless Chrono, Lich ulti, Sk ulti and qop ulti.
But the problem is everytime our opponent pushing into our base, 2 of our main heroes Faceless and Lich are out there farming!! mad.gif mad.gif They only come back when our opponent manage to fully enter our base, let me ask u how are DP, QoP and SK suppose to stand against 5 heroes?? So the mid lane of our base lose its barrack.
Another problem, since we talk before the starting of the tourney that v should let them enter and i silence before faceless Chrono. BUT LICH and SK stay outside for the reason of preventing the enemy to enter, i was like WTF!!! they died when earthshaker manage to block the entrance of our base.

U see, my team mates are good players but their attitude is the thing that cause us to lose. All of them are thinking of getting the kills and getting good killing score. U cant blame it to me since my DP is fully supportive. So i cant kill heroes effectively.

We did play a very very good game at the quarter finals where all of us manage to fork out a good team work.
But i really dont know WTH happen today. The team we face are consider a noob too because they only rely on certain heroes to become tanker.

Oh i forget bout the second half. Im not in there. Know Y??? Cause they suddenly said they wanted change the strategy to a totally new strategy and hero pick. Again i was like WTF shocking.gif shocking.gif
How are we suppose to win at a combination that we never practise before. But they SAID everything is gonna be ok this and that and this.
In the end they lose badly breaking only 5 towers when the opponent manage to wipe out the whole base.

What can i say.... i juz keep my silence and walk away shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

Edit edit~~ Anyone care give me a comment on this?
Hehe sry for writing so long, im juz trying to express my disatisfaction biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


This post has been edited by Cloudx: Apr 2 2006, 01:32 AM
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post Apr 2 2006, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(Golden @ Apr 2 2006, 01:46 AM)
Do you have replays?
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Nope no replays
The CC boss dont giv us take it
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post Apr 2 2006, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(yingchai @ Apr 2 2006, 02:26 AM)
lol...its juz a match only...pls dun take it seriously
try again next time...
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Yea i know, i dont take it seriously but it make me mad when all the things that we discuss bout didnt happen. Basically its juz Talk and No Action. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

Well hope they learn their lessons this time. Since the first and second place get to represent that CC to big tournament organize by Sendi Mutiara.
If they still like that i cant imagine wad would happen if we go there.
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post Apr 2 2006, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(yuyuyu @ Apr 2 2006, 02:31 AM)
rasanya ur teammate not very close friend?
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Yup not that close. Since we meet each other only when playing dota at the CC. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Apr 2 2006, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(yingchai @ Apr 2 2006, 02:39 AM)
no wonder la...then u all must practice a lot lah...

btw...ur quote reminds me of something --> NATO = no action, talk only
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LoL rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
How to practice lah... playing at public game cant gain any knowledge cuz the game play is different.
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post Apr 2 2006, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 2 2006, 02:59 AM)
lol, guess it's something like

all players were good in individual skills, get pawned by opponent teamwork

my team were fairy average on each of us, each of us have weakness and strongpoint which we all knows.. so we would use our advantage to cover the other's weakness.. but we nv enter tourney..
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Yup totally agree.
Which tells too much public game can screw u rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 2 2006, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(sanjikun @ Apr 2 2006, 04:25 AM)
I cant really say your teamwork amongst your teammates sucked just because they refused to come back and defend base. I mean, AOEs makes good defenders alone while opposing teams are assaulting bases, making pushing options viable at that same moment. For example, QoP + Sandking both casting their AOEs and ults will kill all of the pushing creeps and reducing almost all attacking heroes' hp to red. It'd be even better if lich comes in and kill 3 out of 5 of the heroes, but by killing the heroes you reduced their time to get back to base regen hp mana and fight again. These will add more pressure on both sides, esp. to teams where they lost more towers. Situations may vary though - in late games they tend to rush in base and blow down both tower and raxxes, even if it may cost them their lives. Some of them even have enough money to buy themselves back with full hp mana to begin a new pushing cycle.

i think the strat part sucked pretty bad... IMHO, you should have thought of the various possibilites what and how your opponents will play each of their respective heroes. By right teams should go for a good series of combo that gives the optimal(different from 'best') 'pressure'(pressure being able to push lanes without having to go back, giving added pressure to opposing teams that aren't able to push) and pushing capabilities. The most stupid thing a team during competition is screwing up their basic strat and going for 'alternative' strats... Like what you said yourself, 'how are we supposed to go on with a strat we had never practised before'. Big mistake... I know i did that a long time ago  rolleyes.gif

Better luck next time man  smile.gif
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2 of our opponent got meka, which make QoP's and SK's feel like a mosquito bite so basically its useless unless we can make stun or demobalize them hence the function of Faceless's ulti.

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sometimes enemy know how ur strat work liaw .... so they may wait for certain things to happen to disrupt ur cycle ... anyways if they are farming y nv gave pressure to the enemy 1 ..?? still first and 2nd tower ka ..?


Well the 'leader' said, we shouldnt care much of the first tower, let it break then, when our opponent tried to push to the second tower all of us gang on them. But the main farking problem is, non of us buy any ward!! vmad.gif The thought the opponent is dumb enough to push all together cause there are some treant hiding inside the forest waiting to counter us.

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Its never wrong to look back on your past mistakes. If you are serious in entering any future tourneys, I suggest you have a look in the mirror. People are always complaining things happened because of other people and never once thought that they themselves could do something about it.

DUH.

If you think your friends have no teamwork, be the leader, take control. If they still don't want, then you have no hope of winning, so just give up and find a better team.

I'm not trying to flame here or what, but I feel that if you have reflected on your own actions, you will learn more and get more out of it


Each of them are confident on using their selected heroes, what more can i said. They wont listen to me cuz they have their own pride to think of "Oh, im the best killers" or "i just got a double kill" this is the word that they will say about all the time.

Like the sent part where i said they suddenly wanted to change strat? They told me the new hero line up are the one they use a lot in Public game. They said they can use those heroes very very good. For me? I said it in my heart " This is team play not a public game laaaaaaaaaa" shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Apr 2 2006, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(ccl9n @ Apr 2 2006, 02:19 PM)
WTH ,  u complaint at here pula!!!!! walau eh!!!!!!!! u want talk come talk to us la, since some of our member going to suicide liao!!!! some don't want play dota for 1 year, and some 10 years baru come back playing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some more this team going to split  liao, so don't worry my friends!!!!!!! we pro at -ap -sm -sc only!!!!! wakakakaka
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At least here i can voice out my "tak puas hati" and ppl can listen and giv opinion...
If talk to them nobody will listen to me yawn.gif yawn.gif

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