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 Samsung Galaxy Note II LYN's Official Thread V18, FEB OTA 4.1.2 XXDMB4 - NO CHANGELOGS

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post Feb 25 2013, 01:32 AM

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Which is better buying a powerbank or buying an extra battery?
But I heard that if you keep on taking the battery in and out, surely the life span of the battery and the phone will decrease right?
So means the latter would be the better choice?
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post Feb 25 2013, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(brijesh.ratnani @ Feb 25 2013, 01:28 AM)
Are you guys aware of the ability to disable the native apps in note 2. Like chat on or learning hub or game hub.  Just. Informing ya.  Chill
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In the App Manager, you can select Disable for some apps.
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post Feb 25 2013, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 25 2013, 12:29 AM)
Bro that graph is generic only ler

Most likely they use some 18650 cell

May not come from Samsung

Again that graph main purpose to show the effect of higher charging voltage impact relative to lower ones

Don't take the numbers on absolute terms

Will be interesting to see how would note2 (4.35v) compare to note1 (4.2v) in terms of battery life
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I summon gouken to enlighten us about this topic. he knows battery more than anyone I know tongue.gif

I think its something to do with the fact that the note 2 batt is built with the 3.8v voltage chemistry rather than 3.7v.

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6196/prepari...mors-analyzed/5

yes, I know the link is about the iphone 5 but it has something there that might make things clearer biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Feb 25 2013, 01:40 AM)
I summon gouken to enlighten us about this topic. he knows battery more than anyone I know tongue.gif

I think its something to do with the fact that the note 2 batt is built with the 3.8v voltage chemistry rather than 3.7v.

refer below

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6196/prepari...mors-analyzed/5

yes, I know the link is about the iphone 5 but it has something there that might make things clearer biggrin.gif
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Haven't seen him for quite a while. Yes he did say he is a sifu on that topic.

BTW, please evaluate my table and preliminary writeup in post 4. Feedback welcome as I know you are also proficient.
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QUOTE(joytest @ Feb 25 2013, 01:54 AM)
Haven't seen him for quite a while. Yes he did say he is a sifu on that topic.

BTW, please evaluate my table and preliminary writeup in post 4. Feedback welcome as I know you are also proficient.
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wow, I didn't know you could actually put a table there! as for the info, I would say, its definitely "just nice" for the target user who would be people who dont have even the slightest idea about rooting and modding. The info in the table is good too, so users would know exactly what they can change and cant. Maybe in the future you can also write a little about how changing kernels and radio would affect the phone. As for me, I definitely enjoyed reading it. (PEBKAC is a new acronym I've learnt today laugh.gif)

The only real issue with the first page(which I think you already know by now) is the arrangement. Just feels a little "messy". But yeah, I'm sure you will get to that once you are done with the content. Kudos to you! biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Feb 25 2013, 02:08 AM)
wow, I didn't know you could actually put a table there! as for the info, I would say, its definitely "just nice" for the target user who would be people who dont have even the slightest idea about rooting and modding. The info in the table is good too, so users would know exactly what they can change and cant. Maybe in the future you can also write a little about how changing kernels and radio would affect the phone. As for me, I definitely enjoyed reading it. (PEBKAC is a new acronym I've learnt today laugh.gif)

The only real issue with the first page(which I think you already know by now) is the arrangement. Just feels a little "messy". But yeah, I'm sure you will get to that once you are done with the content. Kudos to you! biggrin.gif
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Thanks. Yeah I know it's messy. Need some thinking on arrangement. Glad you enjoyed it.
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QUOTE(Positron @ Feb 25 2013, 01:32 AM)
Which is better buying a powerbank or buying an extra battery?
But I heard that if you keep on taking the battery in and out, surely the life span of the battery and the phone will decrease right?
So means the latter would be the better choice?
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I think you are talking "crap" here
What is the logic behind it?

This post has been edited by benny888: Feb 25 2013, 06:34 AM
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post Feb 25 2013, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 24 2013, 11:46 PM)
The graph represents li ion battery in general as note2 as well as most phone using li ion. So it is valid

Only difference between different brand battery is the cell quality but even if battery quality is good, will have similar charge cycle reduction as lousy quality ones. Just maybe not so severe drop

I know note1 issues cuz many ppl buy from me shows me their bloated battery. Not a few cases. A lot of them. And most I ask use less or about 1 year

Fat battery points to li ion cells already being damaged by over charging. This is mainly due to the ic that supposed to protect that cell becomes defect after certain period of usage. With no ic regulating the charging, the cell bloats

Now why the ic failed? I don't know. Can be the ic quality and note1 specific issue. But pumping 4.35v will stress the ic more than 4.2v in principle (of course if note2 use much better quality ic will have less problems)

Actually when I started the question , I just want to know if note2 battery technology already taken a big leap compare to note1 that now Samsung allows it to be charged to 4.35v or there is no actual leap in technology, just that Samsung wants to boost battery life (4.35v will give you better battery life compare to 4.2v) in short term to show note2 is great but later we will see faster defect

I just curious if anyone knows  notworthy.gif
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Yeah for the sake of discussion my points was just based on the generic graph you posted. Not a battery expert.

From the graph the BIGGER the battery 4.35 gives MORE charge cycle compared to. 4.2. That was what i was pointing out. Hence i was just curious why you said it will be worse. smile.gif

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QUOTE(joytest @ Feb 25 2013, 02:11 AM)
Thanks. Yeah I know it's messy. Need some thinking on arrangement. Glad you enjoyed it.
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Kernel and Radio should be two different row. This is to not confuse newbie who might thinks they comes together. And to inform that Radio is also known as Baseband. smile.gif

Edit: Also can add a screenshot of about phone so they know how to check the current version of rom, radio, kernel they have.

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post Feb 25 2013, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Feb 25 2013, 12:06 AM)
So maybe you can forecast some GN2 battery stocks by next month, since it will be 6 months (180days) since launch and you can expect a number of pregnant batteries coming your way.  laugh.gif

I guess you won't expect tot31 since he charges only every 2 days.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I beg to differ, now I am charging every 4 days.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Feb 25 2013, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Feb 25 2013, 08:23 AM)
I beg to differ, now I am charging every 4 days.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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With such idle time it seems okay. My idle time is max 1 to 2% per day
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post Feb 25 2013, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Feb 25 2013, 08:23 AM)
I beg to differ, now I am charging every 4 days.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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what drugs are you on? i mean the phone? what kernel and ROM? i'd like to try to replicate that!
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Feb 25 2013, 08:51 AM)
what drugs are you on? i mean the phone? what kernel and ROM? i'd like to try to replicate that!
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it is totally stock rooted DMB4. I freezes a lot of apps that I don't use. you can refer on the first page a link to a document which apps/services that are safe to be freeze.
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Feb 25 2013, 09:04 AM)
it is totally stock rooted DMB4. I freezes a lot of apps that I don't use. you can refer on the first page a link to a document which apps/services that are safe to be freeze.
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great!
i love some extra features afforded by custom roms so maybe i'll try out that list first on Wanamlite which i'm downloading hehe
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post Feb 25 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(antt00 @ Feb 25 2013, 07:53 AM)
Yeah for the sake of discussion my points was just based on the generic graph you posted.  Not a battery expert. 

From the graph the BIGGER the battery 4.35 gives MORE charge cycle compared to. 4.2. That was what i was pointing out.  Hence i was just curious why you said it will be worse.  smile.gif
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you sure? sweat.gif

Look at charge cycle #400. Didn't see the 4.35V anymore sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Feb 25 2013, 09:04 AM)
it is totally stock rooted DMB4. I freezes a lot of apps that I don't use. you can refer on the first page a link to a document which apps/services that are safe to be freeze.
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A Gold Medal for u for amazing batt life. tongue.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Feb 25 2013, 09:04 AM)
it is totally stock rooted DMB4. I freezes a lot of apps that I don't use. you can refer on the first page a link to a document which apps/services that are safe to be freeze.
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bro...freeze mean force stop? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Feb 25 2013, 09:04 AM)
it is totally stock rooted DMB4. I freezes a lot of apps that I don't use. you can refer on the first page a link to a document which apps/services that are safe to be freeze.
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wow,awesome bro... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(craxors @ Feb 25 2013, 09:32 AM)
bro...freeze mean force stop?  hmm.gif
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i think he mean freezing the app using titanium app
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guys.. how do u make miscall with these n2?
after dialling the screen would turn of and i had no idea how to cancel the call... ended up in inbox many times ;(

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