wait this 2 beasts (Z and ONE) fight with low light performance, macro, etc and stability first heee heeee

wrong example lulz...

D700 released during D90 era, that time still 12mp era so D700 is not consider "low MP DSLR: that time
if want compare with current DSLR line then you have point. but High MP can crop kaw kaw and capture detail kaw kaw very nice.

if you compare with current D800 with D700, ya D700 indeed is very low MP but it has higher FPS to win with, summore price also cheaper too compare with D800 , but still expensive la.

if not mistaken D800 with higher MP win in many aspect except FPS lose, because nikon duwan beat D700 own market with D800...instead of that they offer D4

OH WAI- you should use D4 as example

yes, for mobile phone 8-12 mp is enough already, but solely upload to facebook, i think 6mp or lower also can do, depend image file output as you said....

now i also eager to see ONE can good as Lumia 920 / Xperia Z or not for low light, and colour reproduction bla bla those la... and sensor size compare with legendary pureview 808

This post has been edited by Agito666: Feb 20 2013, 02:39 AM

1) lens dont have high resolution
2) kinda true, but then compare DSLR with mobile phone is very wrong anyway lol... pureview 808 is better example.
3) in whatever term, DSLR league and mobile phone league still is a huge gap there ,even my 7 years old 6mp D70s still winner compare with 12mp nokia n8 if you really pixel peep, just ISO/noise performance sucks.

try shoot bird on the tree with these phone then you will know which one do better

This post has been edited by Agito666: Feb 20 2013, 09:19 AM

i wonder this metal chassis (?) (or casing?) really good or not, i mean if once drop, it will bengkok already... like macbook pro, kena once repair fees sakit hati lulz... and since it is thin also, i scare very easy spoil if inner casing got something wrong

good la not much people buy One so we can have this baby exclusively

damn sien/boring to see pupil hold note/SIII/ipong 4/5

both are same i guess. i use nokia n8 snap picture one...

if want a good digital zoom phone. get 808 MYR 999 only

owh so L920 indeed is just pull longer shutter la, no wonder i lurk so long all landscape low light shot only

1) lens is pieces of glass.
2) example you giving is wrong lulz... why need compare SLR with phone, totally different league.
3) totally no point what i write in no.3... anyway wait for test result of M7. (i like call M7 instead One, more stylish )

okay, now i read back...

ehhh adui shoot wrong guy...but both give facts veli funny and wrong anyway.

requote last post lulz... i know here got someone use 60D might can explain more better than me

1) lens dont have resolution limit dei.... that is camera body do/ sensor/ module whatever do dei~~.

2) Phone does have zoom lens, just not popular here...ya but actually no need add example of optical zoom lens of SLR...makes me more confuse.

okay you mentioned optical zoom lens, he only mentioned D700 lulz

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=199275

use that will be more appropriated

bullets fly all over in battlefield lulz... too messy lulz

*end*

i know you are with me, i forget quote back that fella

*slap myself*

now i wonder s4 got what special feature
Z got very rare occasion water proof for high end phone,
while One got stereo speaker which rare occasion for smart phone

what S4 will offer?

1 night with girls generation?
*sorry hyper-mode now*

anyway, maybe need TS put some fact how the camera work for mobile phone lulz.
like ISO handling, software, lens, camera sensor etc.... or just lurk back to Xperia Z thread and ask Junseng post

This post has been edited by Agito666: Feb 21 2013, 12:35 AM

both really looks close, One have lesser bit bit noise

http://www.androidcentral.com/no-there-s-no-red-htc-one

no more red

sharper or not i dont dare to say yet lulz because both picture focus and position is not same haha

only can clarify after reviewer shoot a still object with same position with tripod.

and window metro style interface?

invisible sheild SP is very sticky last time i use during ipod touch 2nd gen era...and ultra THICK.

i better tear it off lulz

use low grade diamond lor.

first set:
i think both pretty same. in L920 the instrument set? is darker colour. but background is still can see bridge there, while HO (HTC ONE) want to more expose the sets, and make the background over expo. you can see the bridge gone d.

2nd set: One appear more shaper

3rd set: L920 looks yellow due to the light "pollution" or longer shutter speed, while HO can capture nearly on par exposure with faster shutter speed...but without the yellow ambient/ pollution lulz ...well this one i think L920 did a good shooting setting there, not sure HTC One can tweat longer shutter speed and lower down ISO to make that or not, if can then HTC one win d.

tell me, do you carry compact camera like canon S110 or sony RX100 everytime?
i haven't question about DSLR yet

This post has been edited by Agito666: Feb 23 2013, 02:54 PM

ya just like your point, people want a all-in-1 device and currently only camera performance is the most questionable thing between these devices. They might be not a photographer why would they spend money on extra device? when current smart phone camera performance is near their standard?

that one of course i know la, the "near they standard" i mean consumer taste, not camera standard.

like you said, day light performance no need to ask already.

low light condition i'm not sure, i don't go concert so i don't know how bad camera phone vs PnS. i saw RX100 did a good job in shooting in concert stage. but most of the time common people just record anyway so shooting in low light doesn't bother them. unless i see a stupid fella use phone with media pass go near on stage and shoot with phone.

i know what you mean, just people wants more upper hand on camera performance mah. if they only want camera build-in in phone only without buy extra one.

as if XZ and HO for me both are andriod device, so it is same for me. i duno la i not own andriod device yet, i also doing research with colleague and here.

so samsung sure no-no for me lulz, because my colleague said the SD card destroyer in SIII issue, and touch wiz too.
duno S4 yet.

HTC sense i'm not sure since this one is sense 5, way big difference with current one so i had to wait for both device to come out to play with. watched the first hands on video form pocket now, i'm no problem with that sense 5 temporary judge from video.

camera performance i actually curious what device will perform better, that is like my 60% of concern of my next phone list. as if i usually shoot with phone most of the time, although i carry DSLR everyday.

audio wise i think it is personal preference, i think good enough for me.

SD card slot..nah even i use 16GB nokia also never full memory.

and XZ seems not good with loud speaker because of water proof feature. which is not really useful for me and i 100% rely with alarm from my phone one. ONE might is a good choice here.

and current tread of smart phone beside social apps and those other utility apps in market, the other thing need to bring attention is camera feature. most of the time.... you see most of the phone now all highlight camera performance in ads one.

This post has been edited by Agito666: Feb 23 2013, 04:12 PM

ya i also feel that too, so my thought was right then, that yellow WB really is a light "pollution"/ longer shutter made one
but then hopefully ONE can drag longer shutter manually and lower ISO to make it like L920 because that shot by L920 really nice