30 yrs old Msian Investor on SG Business Times, Portfolio worth MYR10m (SGD4m)
30 yrs old Msian Investor on SG Business Times, Portfolio worth MYR10m (SGD4m)
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Feb 19 2013, 10:34 PM
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My prediction: this guy better stay far away from high rise windows this year. People like him are at high risk of going bankrupt....
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Feb 19 2013, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Feb 19 2013, 09:27 PM) hmm... RM10mil portfolio, RM8mil loans... meaning around RM2mil nett... lucky he bought early... from the article... seems like half of the properties are under RM300k each, lucky guy Lucky? More like sorhai....Playing with loans and gambling like in genting...people like him are responsible for the sharp spike (and subsequent crash) of properties.. |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Feb 19 2013, 11:09 PM) Note that this is Singapore newspaper. It is SGD3,000 NETT (MYR7,500) after all tax, maintenance, audit/secretary fee. Note that half of the porfolios are under construction. Only positive cash flow due to DIBS.....don't need twist facts..He started with studios in KL, all studios are tenanted and currently moved into commercial office, hotels and a residential in Singapore. Commercial are all undercon thus no yield yet. Lets see if he can maintain his hot streak through 2013/2014 or if he's gonna crash and burn like so many gamblers before him. |
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Feb 20 2013, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Feb 20 2013, 01:25 AM) Actually that article when published in overseas is considered "Another Malaysia Boleh" story. Congrats. It sure is another Malaysian Boleh story.But here in this forum, now the REAL mega-taikors start speaking. Ampun ampun tuanku. Successful people not necessary need to reveal himself or herself. Sometimes successful people always say they "kecik meow" nia. Unless they want to try cari more makan? Human nature is like that. Malaysian nature is like to impress and then complain. Boleh culture! Only in Bolehland a 30-yr old fella can be encouraged by the Banks to borrow RM8M against property which will ruin him for the rest of his life if the slightest thing goes wrong. Best part is, he invested into 13 Studios, the property that is about to be the most affected by oversupply and low yields in the next 3 years. Already this young fella is worried and thinking about cashing out in 2016 (bet he wishes he could cash out today but in too deep sh1t already). But yeah, continue to claim I am "jealous". This is not an inspiring story to me. This is Part 1 of a sad tale of how naked greed, poor governance and loose financial controls contribute to bring about a disaster. Part 2, yet to be written, but my bet is it sounds like Richard Li's tale without Li Ka Shing's billions to bail him out.... |
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Feb 20 2013, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(SpeechLess11 @ Feb 20 2013, 10:55 AM) i don't know whether is u guy see different or me. Sure boh?1. 13 studio generate RM7500 PROFIT 2. 1 studio generate RM576 PROFIT my question is, can you guarantee all your property able to provide RM500 profit each or 10% yield per studio after you deduct all the expenses? even if the blr change, he still able to break-even the rental with expenses. he just have to hold the property for another 10years and let his tenant to pay-off 2/3 of his debt. after that, i guess he is quite cash-rich d the true meaning of quitting the full-time job mean full-time focus on property investment. i guess that is what he mean Part of the studios still under construction - means Bank Loan not yet paid yet. Rental yield squeezed as more and more units VP. Ask ANY landlord, if they claim otherwise they are lying. BLR change how sure are you he is able to breakeven? What about defects and repairs in his property? Rental units vacant for 2-3 months? (Highly possible FYI). This is a super high-risk strategy. I won't recommend this to anyone. RM1-2M of loans I consider a daring risk taker. RM8M of loans? Overly greedy and soon to be bankrupt. |
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Feb 20 2013, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Feb 20 2013, 08:35 AM) I did take action but not as aggressive as him. And once I bought second ppty. Boom they restrict the loan borrowing few months after. If few million cannot sleep then Borrow until the bank cannot sleep as they can't afford you to go bankrupt. This is a joke right? One bank employees don't care about the bank except their yearly bonus and monthly salary, bank shareholders can't see all the details except in the annual report. Two if the bank fails the Government will bail them out like in US, if your Boyfriend fails who do you think is gonna bail him out? The Bank? The Govt? You? Good luck...... |
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Feb 21 2013, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Feb 20 2013, 09:39 PM) I like the story. For every 1 person who bought AAPL at USD$80 -> $680, there is another 1 person who bought at USD$680 and yesterday AAPL closed at (ta-da) USD$460.Life is about give & take. Same to investment. For investment, u need foresight, courage, leverage, LUCK... One who believe in Apple Inc, 2008 to 2012 trading USD 80+ to USD 700+ Investment Capital = RM 500k. Margin = 20%, 1 to 5. Actual Investment = RM 2.5 M. Buy = USD 100. Sell = USD 600. Return = 500%, 6 times. Cash Out = RM 15 M. Leverage Interest = 6% of RM 2.5 M. Currency Depreciation = -25%. Nett Cash = RM 10 M. Roughly. Mind u, the time iPhone 3GS is already in the market. BUT DOING THIS NOW, U MAY GO BANKRUPT. So, which person do you wanna be? And are property prices at trough now or at peak? You decide! |
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Feb 23 2013, 11:30 AM
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Feb 24 2013, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(newx @ Feb 24 2013, 01:24 AM) The lady needs no further harassment and pestering. She has explained all she needs to explain. Opposing POV deserves a voice as well. All successful people are welcomed to share their knowledge and experience in this forum. Your friends have bigger portfolio than Ryan's? Great, ask them to share how they did it here so everyone could benefit. If you don't have anything to share, then don't pester those who want to do so. Presenting a high risk investment like this in a glowing light without properly outlining the risks can easily convince some gullible people to invest or try to copy such a strategy. At least our dissenting voice ensure that if people do invest they have a chance to understand the risk and the bear case. When I invest I always like to hear the dissenting view not just rah rah rah BBBBB. After all it is hard earned money that you are using, isn'tit wise to cconsider all possibilities? Money is easy to lose, not easy to earn.... |
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