the topic is about HSR to shorten the distance btw places, it will be an alternative for flight n snail pace train,, ppl already mention about it for quite some time ago,,

HSR can promote tourism n commercial vibrancy which will bring good benefit to this area,, indirectly boosting up surrounding area as a result of business travelers, tourist, n attract workforce to work here n travel via HSR back to hometown probably on a weekly or monthly basis,,

your topic was about living some 150km away n travel via HSR everyday which i had mention in your topic, even advance country like japan, its uncommon for them to do so,, travel via HSR can take up half of the salary of an average worker,,, read those post that we had reply,,,

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 20 2013, 09:54 AM

the issue here is not about time n distance, is about fare n travelling cost,, how many can afford to travel between kl ipoh everyday?

if talking about scale of economy, lets look at japan which has the world most advance n highest public transport usage in the world, to japanese themselves, shinkansen is expensive.. 150km cost 2500yen, 2 way cost 5000yen which is about rm170 to rm200 depends on currency conversion,, a fresh grad pay in japan is bout 200,000yen, using shinkansen already 100,000yen permonth, not including expences for other transport as train dun stop infront of your house,, it is uncommon for japanese to travel tat far daily despite they have long history on shinkansen,, their shinkansen hit 160km/h in 1957 when tunku declare merdeka here,, they r tat advance,,

having working in over seas around asia continent for last few years n taking bullet trains for business trip, the fare of bullet train in these countries are not cheap by their standard of living,, china dong che zhu, taiwan gao tie, japan shinkansen

1 thing in common, bullet train in these countries are use more for business trip, tourism, balik kampung during weekends or festive,,, it is uncommon to use for commuting between house n workplace everyday

msia cant even reduce the public transport fare,,, beijing offers rmb2 to any destination with their MRT, tats the cheapest public transport i ever ride on, but their bullet train still quite expensive,,, dont put too much hope tat our bullet train will b cheap

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 20 2013, 08:15 PM

i work in japan more than a yr, i only travel shinkansen for business n visit,,
one of the backbone for japanese economy is the efficient transport network.. it is important for business traveller to travel across cities for meet up.. we sometimes hav to get to nagoya from tokyo in the morning for company meeting (nagoya some 200km away from tokyo) n travel back to tokyo by evening.. number of business traveller in japan is huge.. japanese, orang putih etc pun ada...

comparing the crowd between the normal rail n shinkansen, the difference is way way too far,,, u dun see super heavy crowded in shinkansen during rushing hours,, but local jr n metrolines r nightmare,, these lines only bring them to suburbs ,, only those who r able to afford or those on travel purpose will ride,, it is not common even by japanese standard

dun compare the niche few who can afford those expensive fare, even taking flight daily.. in msia, if you r the niche few, u can do it too... but we r talking about the mass population.. the mass japanese dont take flight to work.. all my colleagues stay within tokyo suburb, none stay as far as nagoya or osaka n travel everyday..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 20 2013, 09:03 PM

i share the same view,, it will create commercial vibrancy along its stop,, but will it further boost the properties on both ends (kl n sg) i m not too sure bout tat

our mobile phones are not built for such speed.. prepare to hav lots of disconnection when making calls in de train..

if Bee An wins the Erection, syed mokhtar mmc will hav a bigger cake as usual,, ytl might only left with peanuts

y not important... if crony company take up the project, the project could be markup so high that the ppl for to pay for it..

look at those highways... we are forever paying even tough they are due and suppose handed over to federal government... you think not important?