Jan 4 2016, 02:17 PM
QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 3 2016, 11:55 PM)
agreed on overall concept but not the details.
if you look at the map of china only the east side is facing sea. Sea trade is the most important route to any country but unfortunately China is facing Japan in the east....
From hokkaido to okinawa left china with small window to pass through. It is desperate to have alternatives.
Rail provides China a crucial alternative for trades. But how? Currently many countries have different system/specification for rail... such as vietnam is diff from thailand, thailand is diff from Malaysia/sg. It is a legacy issue from colonial days. So If china wants to increase trades via Rail then it has to redo all railway in Indochina/Malaysia and Sg again. China already identified Kunming as the hub for collection and delivery of goods to SEA via rail. Many double track rail will be built running from Kunming to/passing Mynmar, Loas, Vietnam, Thailand then go to Malaysia and ended in Singapore. Bangkok will be the hub for all the rails (like Paris in Europe), KL is just one of the stops.
HSR is just one of the very first steps to materialise the above. China already controls Kunming from the North and if they win the KL-SG line at the South, it is easy to connect the missing links gradually.
Exporting HSR is to export their technology+cheap money+cheap labour+over capacity of steel/cement in China. But their plan is bigger than that for SEA especially indochina + Malaysia +Sg that i have discussed above. if you read carefully they do talk about taking a train to Bangkok from bandar malaysia. A double track rail could be build next to the HSR later.
blow water only.... dont shoot me...
Actually, from Singapore all the way to Vietnam, it is possible to use single type trainset and all of the route use Metre Gauge. That is why Malaysian trainset can travel all the way to Bangkok. China mostly use standard gauge which is bigger then metre gauge and can carry more load at faster speed too. In order for China to use Southeast Asia train route, they have to somehow transfer their load at border into smaller trainset.if you look at the map of china only the east side is facing sea. Sea trade is the most important route to any country but unfortunately China is facing Japan in the east....
From hokkaido to okinawa left china with small window to pass through. It is desperate to have alternatives.
Rail provides China a crucial alternative for trades. But how? Currently many countries have different system/specification for rail... such as vietnam is diff from thailand, thailand is diff from Malaysia/sg. It is a legacy issue from colonial days. So If china wants to increase trades via Rail then it has to redo all railway in Indochina/Malaysia and Sg again. China already identified Kunming as the hub for collection and delivery of goods to SEA via rail. Many double track rail will be built running from Kunming to/passing Mynmar, Loas, Vietnam, Thailand then go to Malaysia and ended in Singapore. Bangkok will be the hub for all the rails (like Paris in Europe), KL is just one of the stops.
HSR is just one of the very first steps to materialise the above. China already controls Kunming from the North and if they win the KL-SG line at the South, it is easy to connect the missing links gradually.
Exporting HSR is to export their technology+cheap money+cheap labour+over capacity of steel/cement in China. But their plan is bigger than that for SEA especially indochina + Malaysia +Sg that i have discussed above. if you read carefully they do talk about taking a train to Bangkok from bandar malaysia. A double track rail could be build next to the HSR later.
blow water only.... dont shoot me...
If they don't mind, they can sponsor or atleast give soft loan to SEA countries to convert or to build new standard gauge rail lines.
The problem with metre gauge is the speed limit which is about 160 km/h and at most at 210km/h and that too only with heavily modified trainset in Australia.
With standard gauge, train can travel at speed more than 300km/h and carrying more loads. That is why in choosing HSR, I rather have TGV type rail system which use standard gauge. This might help if the HSR failed to make money since it can be converted to standard rail system anc cargo train can use it as well. If use Japanese Shinkansen system, once failed, nothing can be use on it anymore since it is highly dedicated rail lines.
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