Better not here. it will make the place very chap

For MRT ok.
actually balakong will get the line 3 mrt ( that one from kepong to cyberjaya line). Got 2 stations some more. one is near mines and the other near minlon inside.
one very big guy inside this felda told me la.

I think better built it at bandar tasik selatan ( have ktm, lrt and mrt line 3) or bandar malaysia ( which have connection mrt line 2)

this 2 areas have lots of land and can built some mall/ office to generate income to compensate / cover partial the high cost of hsr just like what sweden / hk / sg doing.

This post has been edited by balakong: Feb 21 2013, 08:29 AM

This was revealed before in Koptiam thread...


(Wikipedia, courtesy ETP Plan Raodmap)

Looking forward for this... Obviously it will boost the property price for the city that it pass thru.

Wow! The world's most beautiful PM (Yingluck) is moving faster than us..

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/763048.shtml

Thailand expects to break ground for its first high-speed railway at the end of 2014, local media reported on Wednesday.

The Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima high-speed railway will stop at stations in Ayutthaya, Saraburi and Pak Chong. With an average speed of 250 km per hour, the 256-km distance between the capital city and the northeastern province will be covered in 90 minutes. The fare will be priced at 2.5-3 baht ($0.08-0.1) per kilometer.

Local transportation authorities are studying the feasibility of the project and a final plan will be put forward before next Feburary.

Local residents and businesspeople, as well as those whose land will be expropriated to make way for the train project, were given a chance to explain how their lives would be affected, according to project manager Niwat Tansawat.

He said that once all public hearings are completed for the project, land expropriation will begin next year followed immediately by construction, which will take five years to complete.

This is part of a major project covering four main routes from the capital, including routes to Chiang Mai, Hua Hin and Pattaya.

i share the same view,, it will create commercial vibrancy along its stop,, but will it further boost the properties on both ends (kl n sg) i m not too sure bout tat

Forget about 90 minutes... we shall make it 55 minutes now!


UEM Group-ARA Group has proposed to use MAGLEV technology for the non-stop service of KL-SINGAPORE high speed rail train. Travelling at an operational speed of 430kmph, the passenger travelling time will be further shortened to 55 minutes (less than the proposed 95 minutes). The consortium together with Siemens AG, ThyssenKrupp, MAX BÖGL and Shanghai Maglev Transportation Co. planned to use the alignment of North-South Expressway to save land acquisition costs. If suceeded, Malaysia could be the centre of Maglev manufacturing and research centre exporting the technology to the rest of the world.


Kuala Lumpur in talks to use Maglev technology for High Speed Rail; KL-Singapore takes 55 minutes :applause:
New Straits Times | Malaysian Digest | Friday, 22 February 2013 13:30
http://www.malaysiandigest.com/news/36-loc...technology.html

KUALA LUMPUR: A consortium, led by UEM Group Bhd and ARA Group, is proposing a high-speed train technology that can travel up to 500kph, which is expected to be one of the world's fastest in terms of revenue service.

The UEM-Ara Consortium, which is vying for the high-speed rail (HSR) project linking Kuala Lumpur and Singapore, hopes that its proposal to use the magnetic levitation (Maglev) technology will be considered.

A spokesman for the ARA Group, a forerunner in the rail industry here, said that with the Maglev technology, the high-speed train could run, operationally, at between 430kph and 500kph.

The consortium is considering offering two types of services -- express and transit.

At 430kph, the express service would take 55 minutes, running non-stop from Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.

If between six and seven station stops are required for the 400km line in areas like Seremban, Malacca, Muar, Johor Baru and Tuas, the journey would then take 80 to 90 minutes.

Maglev is a system of transportation that suspends, guides and propels vehicles, predominantly trains.

It uses large numbers of electromagnets, mounted on a flange protruding inboard from the lower part of the train car, for lift and propulsion.

The technology was developed by Transrapid-International (TRI), an erstwhile cooperation between German conglomerates Siemens AG, ThyssenKrupp and MAX BÖGL.

Maglev's high-speed trains are currently operational only in Shanghai, China, since 2003, by Shanghai Maglev Transportation Co (SMTDC).



The daily operational speed is 430kph and has reached a record speed of 501kph, with punctuality registering at more than 99.7 per cent.

Its spokesman said Malaysia, with its prime geographical location and potential, could be the first in the world to breakthrough with Maglev and manufacture and operate the technology here.

Subsequently, it would be possible to market the product globally.

He said Maglev technology had substantial advantages and was well-tailored for Malaysia's roadmap towards 2020.

The spokesman added that a centre of excellence (COE) could be set up here if the technology was implemented, especially for the HSR project, which is set to catapult Malaysia as a global transportation leader.

The COE will facilitate technology transfer between the German conglomerates, with support from SMTDC.

"Malaysia could be the region's aggregation and development hub by adopting the technology.

"The breaking point will be the development of the HSR line.

"This revolutionary avant-garde system has substantial advantages and is well-tailored for Malaysia's roadmap towards 2020."

The spokesman said Ara Group had concluded two studies on the use of the technology, with the help of ThyssenKrupp and SMTDC respectively.

"The outcome of both concept papers looks promising.

"Some of the highlights include a much reduced travel time.

"It will only take 55 minutes to get from Kuala Lumpur to downtown Singapore.

"By utilising the North-South Plus Expressway corridor, the consortium will require minimal land acquisition."

Maglev technology eliminates noise and vibration below 200kph and is suited for urban areas and inner cities.

Train derailments would also be a thing of the past, even with the train running at 500kph, he said.

There is also relatively low maintenance for trains running on Maglev as compared with the conventional high-speed rail, which will minimise long-term operational cost.

This post has been edited by accetera: Feb 22 2013, 11:45 PM

our mobile phones are not built for such speed.. prepare to hav lots of disconnection when making calls in de train..

check out MLX01, Japanese superconducting Maglev HSR. So freaking cool!



Just can't wait for this as this would be the first Maglev inter-connecting between two countries. These 2 countries already have one of the busiest air route in the world.

Read Centre for Aviation (CAPA)'s comment about the KL-Singapore High Speed Rail project on the impact of Asian airlines: http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/hsr-...la-lumpur-98233

There are more than 660 flight frequencies between direct carriers between KL and Singapore, excluding those with transits in KL or Sg

This post has been edited by accetera: Feb 23 2013, 12:17 AM

Malaysia love to be used as guinea pig. Maglev suspended on air literally, between highways. If derailed, really a major disaster.

Wa, reminds me of the case in shanghai derail. The china government tried to cover up by burying all the dead bodiss in 2 hours. Same train technology 'maglev'

From civil engineer's point of view, construction cost will be lower if HSR is built on flat terrain in avoiding tunnels and elevated viaduct. Because the vertical and horizontal profile, i.e. requirements of small gradient and large radius shall be fulfilled due to high speed.

I think there is another controversy involving Maglev. The high Electromagnetic radiation may or may not pose health issues. If built along the highway as per UEM's proposal, I guess not issue. But if built near residential areas ...

There are still arguing about this point. But there is definitely a stigma attached to living beside a Maglev line, (there is a protest in China) just like people's preference not to live beside a high tension power line.

If Singaporeans want to do shopping or stay in Malaysia and work in Singapore, they would have shopped and stayed in Johor and not in Kuala Lumpur. Because the time and money spend will be much more expensive. Time travel across the 1.1km bridge would be 30 mins if there is no jam.

This is where one needs to change ones traditional kampung way of thinking. No longer about just shopping for groceries or getting cheaper fuel etc. Such interconnectivity will open up a brand new dimension at a macro level which will break down borders in terms of population movement for families, workers, tourists, businesses and eliminate barriers for corporate and industries which will consequently bring in investments, innovation and elevate Greater KL towards global city status.

For instance, a Global MNC looking for a place to set up shop in SEA. Instead of locating everything in Spore where there are abundance of talents but have to suffer high costs, can locate part of their value chain in KL to take advantage of lower costs eg warehouse, manufacturing, service center etc. This is just one example.

This is not just about having cheaper char kiew Tiew, guys. If one cannot see the potential, then be prepared to be left behind.

Exciting stuff!!

Maglev train will not happen as not only it is expensive, it is harder to source trains from other companies too. Transrapid system (Germany) is very different from JR Maglev system.

Whereas the regular steel wheel on rail system, you have:

- Siemens
- Bombardier
- Alstom
- CNR
- CSR
- Rotem
- Kawasaki
- Hitachi
- Talgo
- CAF

Hence, if built, it will most likely, a 300 km/h steel wheel on rail train like most HSRs in the world.

傳賽莫達覬覦馬新高鐵‧楊忠禮機構和Hartasuma料加入戰圍

Created 02/22/2013 - 17:26




（吉隆坡22日訊）市場消息稱，柔佛州政府及土著企業家丹斯里賽莫達放眼攫取馬新高鐵工程。

此外，其他對馬新高鐵計劃感興趣的企業還包括楊忠禮機構（YTL，4677，主板貿服組）及Hartasuma公司。

消息人士對The Edge透露，柔佛州政府計劃透過旗下公司滲入該州的工程，但若獲頒發工程，相信會以聯營方式執行。至於賽莫達旗下哪家公司會涉及高鐵計劃，暫時無法掌握。

目前賽莫達是透過MMC機構（MMCCORP，2194，主板貿服組），和金務大（GAMUDA，5398，主板建筑組）聯營全長329公里的北馬雙軌鐵道工程。

市場較陌生的Hartasuma公司，則據稱會與UEM置地（UEMLAND，5148，主板產業組）合作競標工程。Hartasuma是家涉及交通基建、公用事業、環境及大廈建築的工程公司，其中一名創辦人丹斯里拉威旦是南北大道（PLUS）的前董事。

楊忠禮機構最早提出馬新高鐵的構思，該集團是在2006年向政府提呈此倡議，因此這次該集團再次浮出台面，有意角逐此工程，自是毫不出奇。

馬銀行研究認為馬新高鐵將在未來5至7年內惠及建築業，潛在受惠者包括金務大（GAMUDA，5398，主板建筑組）、怡保工程（IJM，3336，主板建筑組）、MMC機構（MMCCORP，2194，主板貿服組）、馬資源（MRCB，1651，主板建筑組）、雙威（SUNWAY，5211，主板產業組）及WCT公司（WCT，9679，主板建筑組）等。

不過，預計建築工程在一兩年後才啟動，投資項目仍是最主要課題。

每年需530萬乘客
才能回本

馬銀行研究指出，以400億令吉計劃成本計，加上以4%利息及高鐵每張票價300令吉為考量，高鐵每年須攫取530萬名乘客，才能應付融資成本。

“以高鐵全長310公里計，若最低成本為300億令吉，也相等於每公里9千700萬令吉。＂

根據瞭解，每年往返吉隆坡及新加坡兩地的乘客達到920萬人次，當中68%或630萬人使用公路，預計高鐵通行後，商業及休閒乘客流量可增3至6倍。數據顯示，2011年乘坐飛機來往吉隆坡及新加坡則達290萬人次。

馬新高鐵是繼巴生河流域捷運計劃後，成為國內另一龐大基建工程，不排除馬新高鐵會採用與捷運計劃的相同營運模式，由受委的項目傳遞夥伴（PDP）負責管理計劃成本及施工期限。

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I like your thinking. Well said.

even though i think it is good for the country and investors, this may cause property price to surge.bad news for us who want to buy more

This post has been edited by AMINT: Feb 23 2013, 11:05 PM

Property price up up up =refinance to buy more.