support interstate highspeed.

live in ipoh and working in KL = 203 = 45 minutes only

Everyone work in KL = no need to live in KL

Should have a poll to see how many people will buy ahead of the final approval of the plan.






This post has been edited by Lcsx: Feb 20 2013, 05:24 PM

Interstate highspeed makes more sense to me for Malaysians than the KL-SG one

Politician.. always like to twist.. how about built stop at KL-Seremban-Melaka-JB-SG.. interstate rail or not?

hahahaha.

A reasonable analysis

http://bursastocktalk.blogspot.com/2012/04...speed-rail.html

An interstate high speed train would obtain more passengers to make the project more financially viable.

its reasonable. That is why the project is the collaboration between the private and public. Simple no private would want to take the risk and bear the high cost. But government is diff, they earn the money back from the spillover economic effects.

on the long run this is a good proposal to go ahead. Singaporean will be confident to purchase property in KL. Foreign companies would see KL and SG as a extended economic zone (paris-london..etc)

I agreed with you.. Imagine if Malaysia have great KL and great Iskandar.. Awesome...

This post has been edited by abgkik: Feb 20 2013, 06:35 PM

smuggler (SUGAR ,MILK POWDER, ETC ) business like HK to SHENGZEN will boost up , wau ! another change to make good living n buy a banglo near HST station .

Smugler?? have you ever enter SG??

better make a station at banglakong . just for fun bro .

Kuala Lumpur - Singapore High Speed Rail Project (2014-2020)

Kuala Lumpur - Seremban - Ayer Keroh (Melaka) - Muar - Batu Pahat - Johor Baru (Iskandar) - Singapore (most likely confirmed)

Where do you want it to start and ends?

* A site near KL Sentral/Pasar Seni MRT - A site near Republic Polytechnic?Woodlands MRT (most likely)

1. KL Sentral (Hub) - Dhoby Ghaut (Hub)

2. KL Sentral (Hub) - Bayfront (instead of Marina Bay)

3. Bukit Bintang (MRT) - Orchard (MRT)

4. KLCC (LRT) - Harbourfront (MRT - Resorts World Sentosa)

5. KLCC (Centre) - Raffles Place (Centre)

6. Pasar Seni (MRT) - Outram Park (MRT)

7. Pasar Seni (MRT) - Jurong East (MRT)

8. Cochrane (MRT) - Tanjong Pagar (MRT)

9. Tun Razak Exchange/Pasar Rakyat (MRT) - Raffles Place (MRT)

10. Bandar Utama (MRT) - Queenstown (MRT) ---- this journey is for me



In the meantime:

Malaysia's Opposition counters Putrajaya’s plan, offers High-Speed Interstate Rail
The Malaysian Insider| UPDATED @ 05:29:17 PM 20-02-2013 By Zurairi AR February 20, 2013

PETALING JAYA, Feb 20 – Pakatan Rakyat (PR) announced today that a high-speed interstate railway system will be part of their Election 2013 manifesto, which it says is much more needed than a Kuala Lumpur-Singapore link.

This comes amid a joint-venture between the Malaysian and Singaporean governments to complete a high-speed rail link between the two cities by 2020, which is predicted to cost up to RM13 billion.

“Although the manifesto for PR will only be launched this Monday ... I can give an early preview that it will give a specific commitment to build an interstate high-speed rail system,” PKR strategic director Rafizi Ramli (picture) told reporters here.

“It will be a long-term development, done over several phases.”

The system will connect major cities along a route from Perlis (border state with Thailand) down to Johor Baru, and connect the east coast of Malaysia to the west coast, Rafizi offered.

“This project puts the people’s priority first even more so, and it will be the main difference between Barisan Nasional (BN) and PR,” he added.

Rafizi questioned the decision to only have two stops after laying out the necessary railway infrastructure along the route, which he said will already take up around 70 per cent of the total construction cost.

“We’re not against the project, the country needs a backbone, an efficient and fast railway system, but the urgency is to connect cities to cities,” stressed Rafizi.

Read More:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...nterstate-rail/




Japan's Shinkansen has earlier said that it wants to be involved in the KL-Singapore high speed rail project, preferably using its "bullet-speed" technology.



This post has been edited by accetera: Feb 20 2013, 07:18 PM

the issue here is not about time n distance, is about fare n travelling cost,, how many can afford to travel between kl ipoh everyday?

if talking about scale of economy, lets look at japan which has the world most advance n highest public transport usage in the world, to japanese themselves, shinkansen is expensive.. 150km cost 2500yen, 2 way cost 5000yen which is about rm170 to rm200 depends on currency conversion,, a fresh grad pay in japan is bout 200,000yen, using shinkansen already 100,000yen permonth, not including expences for other transport as train dun stop infront of your house,, it is uncommon for japanese to travel tat far daily despite they have long history on shinkansen,, their shinkansen hit 160km/h in 1957 when tunku declare merdeka here,, they r tat advance,,

having working in over seas around asia continent for last few years n taking bullet trains for business trip, the fare of bullet train in these countries are not cheap by their standard of living,, china dong che zhu, taiwan gao tie, japan shinkansen

1 thing in common, bullet train in these countries are use more for business trip, tourism, balik kampung during weekends or festive,,, it is uncommon to use for commuting between house n workplace everyday

msia cant even reduce the public transport fare,,, beijing offers rmb2 to any destination with their MRT, tats the cheapest public transport i ever ride on, but their bullet train still quite expensive,,, dont put too much hope tat our bullet train will b cheap

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 20 2013, 08:15 PM

Bro, correct me if i am wrong but many japanese use bullet train to work. Some of them even commute daily via airplane from osaka to tokyo. I went to japan when i was small. From kl to osaka was a small plane but from osaka to tokyo was a jumbo plane. Funny thing was that only my family and 2-3 other families were wearing normal clothes but others were wearing business suits ( to work). It was also the same case from tokyo to osaka.. Well japan is a weird country and maybe shouldnt be compared to us. Wanna dispose 3 years old functional TV also need to pay people to collect.This post has been edited by AMINT: Feb 20 2013, 08:20 PM

i work in japan more than a yr, i only travel shinkansen for business n visit,,
one of the backbone for japanese economy is the efficient transport network.. it is important for business traveller to travel across cities for meet up.. we sometimes hav to get to nagoya from tokyo in the morning for company meeting (nagoya some 200km away from tokyo) n travel back to tokyo by evening.. number of business traveller in japan is huge.. japanese, orang putih etc pun ada...

comparing the crowd between the normal rail n shinkansen, the difference is way way too far,,, u dun see super heavy crowded in shinkansen during rushing hours,, but local jr n metrolines r nightmare,, these lines only bring them to suburbs ,, only those who r able to afford or those on travel purpose will ride,, it is not common even by japanese standard

dun compare the niche few who can afford those expensive fare, even taking flight daily.. in msia, if you r the niche few, u can do it too... but we r talking about the mass population.. the mass japanese dont take flight to work.. all my colleagues stay within tokyo suburb, none stay as far as nagoya or osaka n travel everyday..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 20 2013, 09:03 PM

Great vision by Ah Jib & Lau Lee.

But the reality?

High chance Ah Jib will out 2013. Once this happen, high chance Lau Lee PAPaya will out 2016...

can u imagine what will happen if Geylang is just 90 mins away

lol.

sorry can't help it

Very good observation!

Yes, interstate might not be very feasible as bullet train will not be cheap. Very unlikely for a regular joe to be working in KL and staying at Ipoh, for business yes, but not a way of life. In comparison, if inter country like SG-KL, chances are, ppl might start to work in SG and stay in KL as they could easily afford the train ride given the conversion.

I was in Japan few months back and took shinkansen too, I must say I am very impressed with the punctuality and speed. If we are bringing shinkansen to Msia, wow, that would be a great game changer! I can practically go home every week and see my family!! Yay!

Better go Chow Kit, the train ticket (2ways) & the fee in SGD, not worth it. But the reverse might happen, like Hong Kong and Shenzhen, keep mistress in Msia. Lol

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This is for the proposed 400 km route that would link Kuala Lumpur and Singapore in about 1.5 hrs. The Japanese government will perform its own independent feasibility analysis of the project this fiscal year to assist Japanese firms looking to participate, and will consider the possibility of providing financing through the Japan Bank for International Cooperation should JR Central or JR East win orders for the project.