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nexona88
post Dec 26 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 26 2015, 06:14 PM)
still on la. major building and digging all over.
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good to hear rclxms.gif I tot after Muh got "sacked" from DPM post, the project juz "gone" or "stop" for now blush.gif
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post Dec 27 2015, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Dec 27 2015, 08:11 PM)
Seremban/Labu has better chance now. hmm.gif
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what u mean? hmm.gif

house price or HSR station? hmm.gif
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post Dec 27 2015, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Dec 27 2015, 10:53 PM)
u dun seriously consider ppl stay in seremban and take hsr to kl to work  doh.gif
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why not? hmm.gif

people now take Bus & Komuter to KL daily for work

if HSR. less 30min can reach wor tongue.gif
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post Dec 27 2015, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Dec 27 2015, 11:06 PM)
i 99.9% sure wun work, coz of the hsr tix price
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well if that's the case. back to Bus & Komuter lor tongue.gif
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post Dec 27 2015, 11:31 PM

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let's wait for more details on tis project.

my bet is on China winning the project tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 28 2015, 11:40 AM)
In future, more ppl will take HSR to work in Spore an come back to Bolehsia after work, earning SGD so train fees will be sap sap suey.
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yeah. but not stay in KL lor.

maybe in Muar or Batu Pahat blush.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(ANNIYAN_X @ Dec 28 2015, 01:32 PM)
so muar batu pahat all hse price up lo  tongue.gif , future buyer mostly earning is SDG...kl-spore also mite posibble, earning in SGD, ticket price is rm,but anyway i hope they dont scrape putrajaya station .....anyway look like johor the most benefit with few stations!!
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I wonder why have most station in Johor?

Muar, Batu Pahat & Nusajaya hmm.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 28 2015, 02:55 PM)
Johor big area ma, NS & Melaka small so 1 station oni each.

Ppl staying in Selangor can also benefit via LRT/MRT to Bdr Msia and take HSR to work in Spore but will take at least 3.5-4 hours journey including immigration clearance? blink.gif
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walo take 4hours to go work daily flex.gif

but for 1sgd = 3myr should be worth it drool.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 28 2015, 03:57 PM)
OK ma, sacrifice the sleep to get 3 times the salary! biggrin.gif Work 1 month there is equivalent to working there months here! brows.gif

Wake up at 5am and try to reach office in Spore by 9am! rolleyes.gif  First few months at work maybe  rclxub.gif susah to adapt not enough sleep but after one year rclxm9.gif fat tat liao! biggrin.gif
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yeah, 1st few months kinda "tough", as time passes by u shall be rclxm9.gif drool.gif

the HSR service better start early as 5am so to "tap" the working demographic sweat.gif I'm sure those who bid the project knows about it
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post Dec 31 2015, 06:25 PM

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After 1MDB deal, Rafizi says Chinese firms to win KL-Singapore fast train project
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"If my guess is correct, Malaysia would soon be entering a complicated era as the stakes held by the China-owned firms are bound to complicate matters that Malaysia share a mutual interest with China, such as the nation's stand on the Spratly islands.

"The deal today (1MDB, Iskandar, CREC) only proves my earlier warning that the 1MDB scandal would drag the country along until most of its important assets sold to cover 1MDB's huge debt," he said in a statement today.

"CREC will now have 40% of the 60% stakes in Bandar Malaysia (overall 24% stakes in the entire project), which is a lucrative and strategic piece of real estate.

"Although Najib's administration will argue that 24% by the Chinese company is small, I believe CREC will have the upper hand in biddings for larger projects linked with Bandar Malaysia, which is the high speed railway system between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore worth up to US$11 billion based on the current rate exchange," he said.

http://www2.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/...t-train-project
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post Dec 31 2015, 06:58 PM

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who ever give user posted image user posted image user posted image wins the project tongue.gif
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post Jan 2 2016, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jan 1 2016, 08:02 AM)
Anything is possible.
Just look at the Indonesia HSR project bid by China. The Chinese is financing and building it.
The can do the same for the Malaysia - Singapore HSR bid.
The thing is...the chinese is holding on a mountain of USD reserves and they want to divest it into hard assets.
One day ....and I say one distance day decades into the future....they want to replace USD as the main reserves currency.
USD could be less valuable at that time....which is why they are using this period of strong USD to pay/bid for project at a premium price and at the same time diversifying their assets.

Also, its a win for China as the project will keep the people employed and occupied (instead of demonstrating against the communist party).
It will also lessen their current steel and cement over capacity and glut in China now.

Thus, the Chinese is more desperate than us for the project to go through.

So...there you go..if we use the same model like Indonesia HSR project
Malaysia - Singapore get their HSR without the tax payer money.
Malaysian who uses HSR will pay. Those not using HSR , no need to pay. At the same time, Malaysians will be employed in the HSR sectors e.g. training, tech transfer, HSR support industries,
China get part of the Silk road project accomplished , get to spend their mountain of USD, get to keep their people employed and busy, get to reduce their steel and cement over capacity.
It's a Win-win situation right?
"The Wall Street Journal reported that Gatot Trihargo, deputy minister for financial services at Indonesia’s Ministry of State-Owned Enterprises said China’s plan met Jakarta’s criteria that the project not depend on Indonesian financing or a loan guarantee. "

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/articl...d-rail-bet-pays

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Indonesia
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well said rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jan 3 2016, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jan 2 2016, 11:26 PM)
Personally, I wish the chinese bid would win.
It is not because I am Chinese Malaysian.
It is because it makes the most business sense to get a China/Kunmin - Laos - Cambodia - Bangkok - Haadyai - Penang - KL - Singapore HSR in place in the long term.
It will be a major boost to tourism in South East Asia. imagine a HSR Oriental express in the making.
You can have breakfast in Singapore, lunch in KL and dinner in Bangkok and a late nite supper in China or vice versa early breakfast in Southern China, lunch in Bangkok, dinner in KL and a late night party in Singapore hehehehe. Superb!
It will be one of the 'must do' thing to do for any tourist to Asia , just like the London - Paris route in Europe.

Who knows ....one day our children or grandchildren can take a HSR from London to Singapore.
HSR would be a boost to KL position as the business hub of South east asia as it is in between Bangkok and Singapore.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ject/?style=biz
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well if that's really materialized, it's would be sweet experience & unique selling point rclxms.gif

I glad to join the adventure rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 3 2016, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Jan 3 2016, 09:08 PM)
Nice experience..but eating like that nanti cirit birit...
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well that's the risk needed to be taken into consideration sweat.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(BSS30112015 @ Jan 4 2016, 10:55 AM)
China High Speed Rail success story, hope our HSR will be materialise soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Erk5zEJV8
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nice rclxms.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 02:08 PM

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“As of now, the transit services will have to stop in Nusajaya, but for the direct service, you clear both customs and immigration checks [only once] in either Kuala Lumpur or Singapore... like the Eurostar between London and Paris,” Nur Ismal said  rclxms.gif

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...e-says-operator
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good decision. Check everything in KL rclxms.gif Don't want to stop in nusajaya again cry.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 4 2016, 02:17 PM)
Actually, from Singapore all the way to Vietnam, it is possible to use single type trainset and all of the route use Metre Gauge. That is why Malaysian trainset can travel all the way to Bangkok. China mostly use standard gauge which is bigger then metre gauge and can carry more load at faster speed too. In order for China to use Southeast Asia train route, they have to somehow transfer their load at border into smaller trainset.

If they don't mind, they can sponsor or atleast give soft loan to SEA countries to convert or to build new standard gauge rail lines.

The problem with metre gauge is the speed limit which is about 160 km/h and at most at 210km/h and that too only with heavily modified trainset in Australia.

With standard gauge, train can travel at speed more than 300km/h and carrying more loads. That is why in choosing HSR, I rather have TGV type rail system which use standard gauge. This might help if the HSR failed to make money since it can be converted to standard rail system anc cargo train can use it as well. If use Japanese Shinkansen system, once failed, nothing can be use on it anymore since it is highly dedicated rail lines.
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u seems to know a lot about the rail network system type rclxms.gif

I hope our authorities choose the right system like u mention. can have "back up" as cargo train services if HSR failed icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jan 4 2016, 05:31 PM)
about nine years ago, in 2007, conglomerate YTL and its technical partner, Germany’s Siemens AG, put in a proposal to build the HSR or bullet train linking Kuala Lumpur to Singapore at a cost of only RM8 billion. How the price of the HSR has escalated to the current level of RM70 billion is not clear.

the price we pay for procrastination.
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gomen did a big mistake by not approving the YTL - Siemens proposal nod.gif look now how the expected price.

but I guess the YTL one needed gomen funding while the current one may be funded fully by China if their proposal is accepted icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 06:49 PM

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KL - Singapore bullet train will have 2 services, 90 minutes or 2 hours
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...e-says-operator
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post Jan 4 2016, 10:31 PM

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China to spend USD 538 bil in railways in 5 years. The biggest spending on railway in the world flex.gif
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The ambitious plan aims to boost China's railroad to a record 150,000 kilometers and high-speed rail to 30,000 kilometers, it said, citing a draft proposal by transportation authorities.

The railway network would link any major city with a population over 200,000 and reduce the commuting time among them to 1 to 8 hours, according to the proposal.

Over 20 high speed routes are designed to expand the high-speed rail network, with priority going to links from Beijing to Shenyang, Northeast Liaoning province; from Taiyuan, North Shanxi province to Zhengzhou, Central Henan province and lines in the Midwestern provinces.

An possible high-speed railway to run beneath China's Bohai Sea may also be taken into consideration.

http://www.ecns.cn/business/2016/01-04/194605.shtml

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